The Mourinho Thread

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3 minutes ago, Styles said:

Haha, not surprised by his comments but genuinely couldn't care less as I expected nothing less. I'm just glad the cancer is no longer here.

I respect your opinion, but will you still not be bothered if he's winning titles there? Or if Conte fails spectacularly or even doesn't get us top 4 whilst José is killing it in Manchester?

For me, it's too early to decide whether it's a good thing he's gone. I won't know that until this time next year.

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20 minutes ago, petre.ispirescu said:

Spot on mate and I would like to add one more thing - Mourinho supposedly become unhappy because the board did not back him in the transfer market last summer. Something I can't agree with or deny because I don't know what's happened behind closed doors. But ok, let's say the board did not buy the players he wanted. Well, if he cared about this club as much as he said he cared, maybe for once in his life could have moved on and accept the situation. Instead he got grumpy and fucked our season big time, burned bridges with everyone at the club and got the sack he deserved. I don't want to come up with fucked up theories that he did it on purpose just to get the sack and go to United, knowing United are desperate to land him. No, but damn mate, it looks like that with every day going by. 

It's like something got into his brain the day the board told him that they can't afford to buy the players he wants and he chose to act like a spoilt brat. It's not like Chelsea didn't back him enough during all his years at the club. Mourinho is the manager that has spent the most money in the transfer market ever and he is millions short of reaching 1 BILLION Euros spent on players. Surely this summer he will reach that mark. 

And if you ask me the worst thing was this morning when he praised United with that bullshit talk, mystique, romance and shit like that. At least out of respect for those who were still chanting his name in December he could have spared the Chelsea fans from shit like that. This goes to show how sick he is and that one of the reasons why he took the United job is to get revenge on Abramovich & Chelsea. This is Mourinho, a vengeful, sick human being that puts himself above everything.

This is why I was pissed off with the constant chants of "Jose Mourinho" in games. So much of the fans showed him loyalty yet he says stuff like this and the unsurprising thing is, I knew Mourinho would come out with comments like this. I wonder what the fans who sung his name constantly after he was sacked feel now.

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Finally it's over. Glad the cancer is gone.

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OFFICIAL: Jose Mourinho is Manchester United manager
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38 minutes ago, petre.ispirescu said:

 

And if you ask me the worst thing was this morning when he praised United with that bullshit talk, mystique, romance and shit like that. At least out of respect for those who were still chanting his name in December he could have spared the Chelsea fans from shit like that. This goes to show how sick he is and that one of the reasons why he took the United job is to get revenge on Abramovich & Chelsea. This is Mourinho, a vengeful, sick human being that puts himself above everything.

Its more symptomatic of modern football. The owners buy a club and leech off the brand loyalty of fans to make a profit (unless theyre obscenely wealthy like Abramovich, Man City owners, then its just polishing their ego).

Successful managers again just leech off the money at the club, again put in by the fans and TV deals. Probably less than 1% of people in top football -that's owners, directors, coaches, medics, players, have any loyalty to their teams whatsoever. Its only the fans.

So no surprise when millionaires, be it players or managers are prostituted around by parasitical agents spout meaningless 'best club in the world' bullshit and do badge kissing. Its all a massive heap of bollox.

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56 minutes ago, petre.ispirescu said:

And if you ask me the worst thing was this morning when he praised United with that bullshit talk, mystique, romance and shit like that. At least out of respect for those who were still chanting his name in December he could have spared the Chelsea fans from shit like that. This goes to show how sick he is and that one of the reasons why he took the United job is to get revenge on Abramovich & Chelsea. This is Mourinho, a vengeful, sick human being that puts himself above everything.

Every single person in football has a loyalty to himself over a club. It's crazy to think otherwise.

This club sacked him and he took a job that everyone knew he's wanted for years. His loyalty is to his employer and he's going to say things to get the club and its supporters behind him. His management style requires that.

Chelsea will always mean a lot to him, but all this talk about him owing something to Chelsea and its supporters is nonsense.

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2 minutes ago, kmk108 said:

Every single person in football has a loyalty to himself over a club. It's crazy to think otherwise.

 

Apart from the fans.

The real loyalty of the owners players and coaches is to their bank balance and succumbing to greed.

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2 hours ago, Gilvorak said:

There would be nothing more ironic than Willian leaving after being lauded by our dumb fans for his passion & loyalty while the much maligned Hazard stays despite being one of the few players in the world that can pretty much pick any club of his choosing.

This is such non-sense. First of all, Willian and Hazard will not leave. Our image as a club is not that good at the moment. We are not even close to United's, City's or even Liverpool's hype at the moment. The media will be all about them this summer. 

Losing either one of the best two players is clearly not an option for us at this point. If the club sells one of them (specially to Mourinho's United), Chelsea's credibility will be destroyed. 

Secondly, considering what I have previously mentioned, I find it hard to believe that we can afford seeling one of the best players in the world just because we didn't like his attitude at a certain point. 

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35 minutes ago, kmk108 said:

Every single person in football has a loyalty to himself over a club. It's crazy to think otherwise.

This club sacked him and he took a job that everyone knew he's wanted for years. His loyalty is to his employer and he's going to say things to get the club and its supporters behind him. His management style requires that.

Chelsea will always mean a lot to him, but all this talk about him owing something to Chelsea and its supporters is nonsense.

The only thing he owns to the fans is a bit of respect, the same respect most of the fans showed him during the hard months in October, November and December, when everybody else was turning against him. I'm not saying he has to praise his time at Chelsea in every single interview, but it's rude that he is 5 minutes into his United job and already starts the ass licking. No one would care if it was AC Milan he was talking about, or Real Madrid, but it's fucking Man United the club we all despise and the club whose fans used to absolutely hate Mourinho's guts about six months ago.

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7 minutes ago, petre.ispirescu said:

The only thing he owns to the fans is a bit of respect, the same respect most of the fans showed him during the hard months in October, November and December, when everybody else was turning against him. I'm not saying he has to praise his time at Chelsea in every single interview, but it's rude that he is 5 minutes into his United job and already starts the ass licking. No one would care if it was AC Milan he was talking about, or Real Madrid, but it's fucking Man United the club we all despise and the club whose fans used to absolutely hate Mourinho's guts about six months ago.

Guaranteed soon, or when the season starts he will acknowledge Chelsea fans  -it just wouldn't be done now.

Anyway hes gone now, and hopefully will royally fuck up there

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50 minutes ago, petre.ispirescu said:

The only thing he owns to the fans is a bit of respect, the same respect most of the fans showed him during the hard months in October, November and December, when everybody else was turning against him. I'm not saying he has to praise his time at Chelsea in every single interview, but it's rude that he is 5 minutes into his United job and already starts the ass licking. No one would care if it was AC Milan he was talking about, or Real Madrid, but it's fucking Man United the club we all despise and the club whose fans used to absolutely hate Mourinho's guts about six months ago.

You definitely weren't the one who supported Jose through hard times, so why now you taking offence for other people?

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49 minutes ago, pHaRaOn said:

You definitely weren't the one who supported Jose through hard times, so why now you taking offence for other people?

I wasn't mate you are right and I'm happy he's gone. Just wanted to express my feelings towards Mourinho the human being and the fact that IMO he's by no means "one of us". 

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17 hours ago, Essien19 said:

The board burned the bridges first when they showed no loyality whatsoever and kicked him out to the streets.
If you don't support him when he's needing it the most, what else is there to say.
Afterwards nice lil' dig with this "individual" nonsense. Really throw him to the wolves.

If we had not shown him loyalty, we would have sacked him long before December. We kept him that long, even after all his controversies, because of his success with us and that we wanted to make this relationship work. And you can talk all about the need to show him support but the fact of the matter is, while the results were poor on the pitch, Mourinho was constantly inciting trouble and creating controversies every single week. When you're already in a bad period, you don't go and create more problems but that's what he did. I don't think Roman wanted to sack him and I doubt he would have on the basis of the results but his petulant behavior was very likely the main thing that sealed his fate. He is already 53 years old and he is an experienced manager. He doesn't need people to tell him that he shouldn't do what he did but he couldn't see the error of his ways (even after doing it countless of times in the last 10 years!) and didn't want to change. Mourinho was the one who burned that bridge.

17 hours ago, Essien19 said:

Chelsea will regret it, Mourinho will bring United back to the top, IMO.
It's game over now, watch and see, boys did a top class job backing those players and deciding to cut ties with him.

It's really bizarre that some group of Chelsea fans think we can't survive without Mourinho. It's as though he's the be-all and end-all for us and we don't have him in charge, we are doomed to fail. We have proved that we can win without him and will continue to do so. And so what if he brings United back to the top? Do people actually think they are just going to stuck in a rut for eternity? Even if it's not Mourinho, someone else would bring United back to the top. So I don't get all this outcry that Mourinho will restore greatness to their club.

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Hope our fans show class and don't chant "F*ck of Mourinho" and just completly ignore him.

I would prefer to hear them sing our new manager's name.

With the tune of Seven Nation Army's "White Stripes" will fit quite good.

"Ohhhhhh Antonio Conte"

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That's the thing man u apart from under moyes haven't been bad.they are still a huge side and always will be seen as regardless of who their manager is.

Whereas with us we haven't always been and even after Jose left had some up down seasons.not worried what he does there expect him to do well and win trophies.long as we are heading up rather then down or backwards or whatever 

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41 minutes ago, Jason said:

If we had not shown him loyalty, we would have sacked him long before December. We kept him that long, even after all his controversies, because of his success with us and that we wanted to make this relationship work. And you can talk all about the need to show him support but the fact of the matter is, while the results were poor on the pitch, Mourinho was constantly inciting trouble and creating controversies every single week. When you're already in a bad period, you don't go and create more problems but that's what he did. I don't think Roman wanted to sack him and I doubt he would have on the basis of the results but his petulant behavior was very likely the main thing that sealed his fate. He is already 53 years old and he is an experienced manager. He doesn't need people to tell him that he shouldn't do what he did but he couldn't see the error of his ways (even after doing it countless of times in the last 10 years!) and didn't want to change. Mourinho was the one who burned that bridge.

It's really bizarre that some group of Chelsea fans think we can't survive without Mourinho. It's as though he's the be-all and end-all for us and we don't have him in charge, we are doomed to fail. We have proved that we can win without him and will continue to do so. And so what if he brings United back to the top? Do people actually think they are just going to stuck rut for eternity? Even if it's not Mourinho, someone else would bring United back to the top. So I don't get all this outcry that Mourinho will restore greatness to their club.

Just not sure your causality here is correct: Jose historically incites trouble only when the team is not performing and keeps more quiet when things are going well. Right or wrong, he's always done that (other managers do the same btw), mostly to remove pressure from his players. Obviously, this strategy only works for a short time and eventually you need to get the results, but the overall form at the beginning of the season was so poor that it was going to take a while no matter what you did.

I am a firm believer that we would have end up at around the same position had Jose stayed. Even the obvious dissident players would've decided to rally behind him a bit just to stay safe, eventually; bringing Hiddink just expedited the process, but along it came his bad tactics, team selections, and outdated ideas... IMO of course.

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Without hopefully sounding bitter and biased, I don't think its a foregone conclusion that he will do as well as people are already expecting him to.

In his first spell here, he was young, vibrant and fresh. Our version of the 4-3-3 was actually pretty new at the time, certainly in the premier league. The role of the holding midfielder, even little things like putting more people up the pitch when defending our own corners. He brought so many new ideas and he was bold and aggressive. In his second spell here I didn't see any of this.

If we all stand back and look at things. In his first season back I don't think we were anything special. At times we played some really piss poor, boring football. I actually think we played better in the previous season under Benitez and I don't think we would have done any worse were he in charge that year. Last season was obviously successful but we only really played well in the first half of the season and managed the second half of the season. I think this season shows not just how poor we've been, but how poor the likes of United, City and Arsenal have all been, but they were the same last season and I think we simply took advantage of that just like Leicester have done this year.

I feel that Jose doesn't seem to have the same spark for new ideas and tactics that he once did and seemed almost outdated the second time around. 

Whether Conte is the right choice remains to be seen, but I am excited that we have a young manager with new ideas and a more youthful energy, like the first time Mourinho was here. There is a new breed of managers like Klopp, Conte, Pochettino who play a very aggressive, expansive and pressing game and I like it. I think it's bold, and I think when done right with the right players it's devastatingly effective. I'm excited the direction we're heading in to be honest.