The Mourinho Thread

[Kieran. 6,317]

Just basic logic, Dortmund,Liverpool and Spurs last season were every bit as horrible as we are now yet all finished top 8, the former were bottom in New year yet no one thought they were seriously going down.

We, like they, have too muxh individual quality in the squad to be in relegation places or close after 38 games, its not arrogance, its just fact.

If we end the season relegated or within 15 points of it, I'll terminate my account here and not eat Pizza for a year.

Totally agree with you Tom about us being relegated.

But about us and our future with Mourinho. A real head v. heart moment isn't it Tom? Fucking wild tbh.

[Tomo 21,754]

Totally agree with you Tom about us being relegated.

But about us and our future with Mourinho. A real head v. heart moment isn't it Tom? Fucking wild tbh.

Absolutely,keep switching between in and out at the moment, I feel like an Arsenal fan.

[zolayes 14,489]

Just basic logic, Dortmund,Liverpool and Spurs last season were every bit as horrible as we are now yet all finished top 8, the former were bottom in New year yet no one thought they were seriously going down.

We, like they, have too muxh individual quality in the squad to be in relegation places or close after 38 games, its not arrogance, its just fact.

If we end the season relegated or within 15 points of it, I'll terminate my account here and not eat Pizza for a year.

NOT FACT your opinion ,, I am confident we won't be relegated but should that be considered a vindication of our current manager .

[Muzchap 8,966]

Just basic logic, Dortmund,Liverpool and Spurs last season were every bit as horrible as we are now yet all finished top 8, the former were bottom in New year yet no one thought they were seriously going down.

We, like they, have too muxh individual quality in the squad to be in relegation places or close after 38 games, its not arrogance, its just fact.

If we end the season relegated or within 15 points of it, I'll terminate my account here and not eat Pizza for a year.

no need to go that far

I don't believe we will go down - but a few wins from those below us and it could start to get very shit. Hopefully we will make the Top 8.

[Tomo 21,754]

NOT FACT your opinion ,, I am confident we won't be relegated but should that be considered a vindication of our current manager .

Absolutely not, whoevers in charge this team will get top 8 minimum, there's too much quality in this squad.

[Viper22 2,418]

Take a serious at M'gladbach, they've risen from the ashes, after the coach who took them to the CL for the first time in ages resigned and the new coach, relatively unknown, has made them play smoothly since. I understand the sentimentality for him, but come on, you can't look past the damage his coaching's causing at an alarming rate, that even the most serene person would be challenged by the frustrating soap opera BS the club is currently in. We're even 1000 times worse than the likes of Dortmund last year and Moyes' United at this point of the season. The tactics are so useless for a squad of this caliber. His coaching is archaic and non-dynamic. He's got low flexibility.

Right now, we're looking at future humiliations by the likes of f**king United, Leicester, Tottenham, Watford, Sunderland, etc as a given. If you take a moment to think about those upcoming games, do you honestly feel an air optimism about them? I really doubt it. Many are rightfully being behind him, but the sooner he's out, the much more time the club will get to regenerate and control the colossal damage that's been inflicted so far.

Not going to debate the rest of it cos I cba but come on, really? Dortmund, on February 6th 2015 had a record of played 19, won 4, drew 4, lost 11. Their 4 wins were against Augsburg, Freiburg, BMG and Hoffenheim, 3 were at home and 3 were by 1 goal. They were bottom of the table on 16 points from a possible 57 and were in genuine danger of going down with only 15 games to go.

Talk about an over-exaggeration, we're in trouble but we're in nowhere near as much trouble as Dortmund were last season. Good god.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

He is from Brazil of course he cant come to games that doesnt make his opinions invalid . Actually I didnt want Benitez but he did an excellent job for us .

makes his opinions totally invalid when he criticises support. Dont mind criticism in a debate about the team...but criticism about support from those that don't go is off limits

[Jase 43,479]

The fact he has stayed this long has convinced me that he will not be sacked until either a.) the end of the season, or b.) it becomes mathematically impossible to qualify for the CL.

What's the point of sacking him after it's mathematically impossible to quaify for the Champions League? The chances of us finishing in the top 4 are already low at this point but there's still a chance. If the club are really concerned about getting into the competition, then sack him now and hope his replacement can get us into it with 26 games left. Otherwise, back him all the way, even after the failure to qualify for the Champions League.

[Starman60 1,343]

Just because we are Chelsea and the current champions, doesn't mean we cant be relegated. We are in serious shit here and the coach has no magic wand to save our season. We are now fighting for our lives with tough fixtures coming up. Before, fixtures against Leicester, Spurs and other middle of the table sides used to mean 3 points every time, but now I am dreading these. So far this season we have beaten WBA who made it tough for us, 9 man Arsenal and bottom of the table Aston Villa!!! Please show me where our next three points are coming from? Any other club who has a team of world class players such as ours would have sacked the manager weeks ago, and just because our manager is called "Jose Mourinho" and claims he is "one of us" frankly means jack shit to me if we keep playing the drivel we are playing this season. We need change.

He's gotta go....and now.....end of

[Jase 43,479]

He traded Mata, Lukaku and KDB for a Capital One and league title, is this worth it we might have to ask ourselves when Lukaku earn his 50m transfer to PSG or KDB is included in World 11 in a couple of years.

This idea of Mourinho 'trading' players for the Premier League and League Cup titles seems somewhat cheap (especially on hindsight), don't you think? It's almost as if you had predicted we would be struggling this badly after we sold Mata, De Bruyne (he might not even have developed in the same way he did had he stayed), Lukaku etc and got Costa, Fabregas etc. We strolled to success last season (and even blew teams away from August till December; no one was complaining about this then) and even if we weren't unable to match that this time around, no one would have expected us to be sitting in 16th with 7 defeats in first 12 games (you would be lying if you did). If anything, the problem isn't about selling/buying certain players. It's about us not strengthening the squad with quality reinforcements in the summer and Mourinho for the poor way he's managed the squad - not keeping the squad competitive, not introducing fresh/different ideas.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

Voted yes because I can't see any positives why he should remain in charge. Quality of the football we play is atrocius, we can't even defend these days anymore. Our manager has no balls, really wonder where did the Mourinho from 04/05 disappear, where did his balls go..

Okay, I could tolerate a season without CL football IF we had a few of our own academy players starting in the Premiership week in week out, getting games for us, learning and getting experience. That is not happening and is unlikely to ever happen in the future under Mourinho. Its sad because we really do have some great young kids.

So, terrible football + no kids + no results = no future.

No future = sack tomorrow morning.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Voted yes because I can't see any positives why he should remain in charge. Quality of the football we play is atrocius, we can't even defend these days anymore. Our manager has no balls, really wonder where did the Mourinho from 04/05 disappear, where did his balls go..

Okay, I could tolerate a season without CL football IF we had a few of our own academy players starting in the Premiership week in week out, getting games for us, learning and getting experience. That is not happening and is unlikely to ever happen in the future under Mourinho. Its sad because we really do have some great young kids.

So, terrible football + no kids + no results = no future.

No future = sack tomorrow morning.

and hopefully...no Bosnian Blue. byeeee

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

and hopefully...no Bosnian Blue. byeeee

Great response.

All solid points there.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Just because we are Chelsea and the current champions, doesn't mean we cant be relegated. We are in serious shit here and the coach has no magic wand to save our season. We are now fighting for our lives with tough fixtures coming up. Before, fixtures against Leicester, Spurs and other middle of the table sides used to mean 3 points every time, but now I am dreading these. So far this season we have beaten WBA who made it tough for us, 9 man Arsenal and bottom of the table Aston Villa!!! Please show me where our next three points are coming from? Any other club who has a team of world class players such as ours would have sacked the manager weeks ago, and just because our manager is called "Jose Mourinho" and claims he is "one of us" frankly means jack shit to me if we keep playing the drivel we are playing this season. We need change.

He's gotta go....and now.....end of

hope you can drag your trolling fingers off the keyboard to show some support when we are in trouble...oooppps ..hold on.

Will you still be posting if we are in the championshp?

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Great response.

All solid points there.

well I thought it was relevant to an ott post

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

and hopefully...no Bosnian Blue. byeeee

Bosnian Blue would be there whether Champions of Europe or relegation battle in League Two. But thats not what we're discussing here.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Bosnian Blue would be there whether Champions of Europe or relegation battle in League Two. But thats not what we're discussing here.

Just ignore posts like that mate - don't get sucked into it.

You made valid points.

[Rhino's Skin 972]

Bosnian Blue would be there whether Champions of Europe or relegation battle in League Two. But thats not what we're discussing here.

actually it is what we are discussing....supporting everything about the club at its lowest ebb

[Starman60 1,343]

hope you can drag your trolling fingers off the keyboard to show some support when we are in trouble...oooppps ..hold on.

Will you still be posting if we are in the championshp?

Was there when we were in the second division mate..........and yes I'll be there if that's where we end up again.

And what I said is in no way trolling and I find that insulting. If Mourinho goes will you follow him or will YOU still follow Chelsea?

[Muzchap 8,966]

actually it is what we are discussing....supporting everything about the club at its lowest ebb

Why not say that then - instead of inferring that Bosnian Blue is not a 'proper' fan and that Starman is a troll?