The Mourinho Thread

[iseah100 5,612]

Nothing new apart from Mourinho being given the dreaded vote of confidence by the club.

Oooh no. He's surely gone then in January.

Why ? You don't like Guardiola ?

He's a bald cunt who doesn't like football.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

He's a bald cunt who doesn't like football.

I'll take that as a yes.

[Blue Armour 4,759]

Speaking of taking responsibilities, I see some of you guys are trying to put things in to perspective using numbers.. let me try this too

• Post Season Matches + Late start to the summer.. (Jose - 60%, Board - 40%, Players - 0%)........................... (15% of the total problem)
• Lack of Summer transfer activity............................ (Jose - 0%, Board - 100%, Players 0%)...............................(30% of the total problem)
• Selling Luis............................................................ (Jose - 100%, Board - 0%, Players 0%)................................(5% of the total problem)
• Eva Caraneiro....................................................... (Jose - 80%, Board - 10%, Players 0%, Eva - 10%)..............(5% of the total problem)
• Lack of motivation...................................................(Jose - 30%, Board - 10%, Players- 60 0%)...........................(10% of the total problem)
• Lack of rotation.......................................................(Jose -100%, Board - 0%, Players 0%)..................................(15% of the total problem)
• Lack of tactical flexibility......................................... (Jose - 100%, Board - 0%, Players 0%).................................(20% of the total problem)

overall,

• Jose ....... 56%
• Players ... 6%
• Board ......38%

Sorry, but no way would the players' responsibility be down to just 6%. Neither Jose nor the board are going onto the pitch and playing like crap.

[Blue Armour 4,759]

Liverpool are without a manager NOW, though. Are you going to go to Klopp and say "wait until the end of the season and we MAY sack Mourinho?" He strikes me as a guy who will be romanticizing about the "history and prestige" of Liverpool and will jump at the chance to manage them.

And you really think a player manager with no experience can do a better job than one of the best in football history? Come on, mate.

A manager with no experience and an unseasoned squad in turmoil., that would be a ridiculously bad combination.

[Blue Armour 4,759]

Completely irrational as well. We don't have anything even close to 'player power' in the team. In case anyone hasn't noticed, Jose has basically been running the squad like a dictatorship. Just ask Eva & Fearn or Lukaku or KDB about it. That's what he does. He's the military commander and he leads the troops to war.

The obvious difference between now and under AVB is that (some of) the players back then consciously and purposefully didn't want to give 100% for the team because they wanted the manager gone for their own sake at the expense of the best interest of the club. That is very obviously not the case now. No one is intentionally not giving 100%. We don't have power cliques in the team. We don't even have players with that type of personality. Practically everyone in the squad is a Mourinho man.

Continuing about that article, yes a player should be held accountable for his failures. But when an entire team is under-performing so badly and with no obvious ulterior motives, you have to look at exterior factors. You have to look at the management.

Yes, Jose is the most successful and decorated manager in the past decade, but that is irrelevant here. The question that should be asked is where does the best interest of the club lie? Will the sacking of Jose Mourinho improve the team and get us better results? Can another manager do better than he is doing?

I think the article is stating more along the lines that player power is the risk you run from sacking the manager.

Of course there is no player power in this squad. Yet. This squad is relatively young, and has essentially been through only one managerial sacking and that was RDM.

Whether the players are intentionally under performing or not, no one can deny that they were hardly even doing the basics, especially in the last 20 mins against Southampton. They just collapsed like twigs on the pitch. It would set a bad precedence if the immediate response to that kind of performance is give the manager the boot.

[Gappy 130]

After reading this forum, Nows I feel like Jose was told whole players like this

" Hay, you guys get in the field and perform like a kindergarten team !! "

No i'm not defense that jose was poor performance this season but come on

Did jose change tactics from last season that much ?

Or did players that can't even know how to pass, made decision, shot on target, tackle, positioning, have pace and don't look the fat after season opened take responded to blame ?

If we keep on the same judge that made to jose and use it to judge the players

More than half of our first team squad should got fired too.

This was not about tactics at all, players didn't perform good but lose. they have very poor performance and not just 2 persons it was 7-8 peoples that have a very poor performance from the beginning of the season.

HAZARD, ORCAS, MATIC, CESC, IVA, TERRY, ZOUMA, CAHILL all of them make a personal mistake every games, yes 2 of them make it more but no it didn't mean other was doing well

Jose fail that he keep trust his players they fail him badly.

Players was fail to all chelsea fans with the very disgrace poor performance and lack of professional.

No matter how bad tactics you got from a poor manager that doesn't make you flip from a premier league player to a kindergarten boy. Sauraz and a couples of them was proof that

[didierforever 7,349]

A manager with no experience and an unseasoned squad in turmoil., that would be a ridiculously bad combination.

RDM?

[didierforever 7,349]

I'm amazed.

what about this. does THIS amaze you?

When I play Azpilicueta on the right and Baba Rahman on the left and I don’t play Ivanovic, I have only three, not even four. So we have to think about all the details. And I think about all the details.”

[Special Juan 28,871]

'I think about all the details' well if that was the case he's missing a big detail in Ivanovic.

[coolhead23 1,147]

Why ? You don't like Guardiola ?

So you want to go back to the same person who kind of slapped us openly when we had the red carpet and flowers ready for him?

P.S: sorry cant help it .... I m the sentimental type

[DH1988 1,356]

Well I read something this morning that kind of made sense "The players are bored with playing in a tactical straight jacket and want to play with more flair/freedom"

I can see a few of our players that might feel that way, Eden for one.

[Laugh1ngMan 393]

Well I read something this morning that kind of made sense "The players are bored with playing in a tactical straight jacket and want to play with more flair/freedom"

I can see a few of our players that might feel that way, Eden for one.

Altough i would like to see us play with more flair, those kind of statements rile me up.

In the end, players are employees who earn hundreds of thousands of pounds each week so they shouldn't be bored and moaning about the what and the how and be professional and just do what they have been told to do

[manpe 10,861]

Altough i would like to see us play with more flair, those kind of statements rile me up.

In the end, players are employees who earn hundreds of thousands of pounds each week so they shouldn't be bored and moaning about the what and the how and be professional and just do what they have been told to do

This. If they are bored living dream lives and winning titles, then they can fuck off for all I care.

[Reddish-Blue 2,702]

This. If they are bored living dream lives and winning titles, then they can fuck off for all I care.

Yeh because it's a crime to want to play with attacking freedom.

I'm guessing you don't watch many games outside of Chelsea..

[lucio 5,418]

what about this. does THIS amaze you?

When I play Azpilicueta on the right and Baba Rahman on the left and I don’t play Ivanovic, I have only three, not even four. So we have to think about all the details. And I think about all the details.”

basically we have to have the worst team in the world , because baba isnt 5cm taller. great details

[manpe 10,861]

Yeh because it's a crime to want to play with attacking freedom.

It is a crime to be 'bored' to the extent you are letting the whole club including the fans down while being paid insane amounts of money to do the opposite. If you are okay with this kind of mentality, then be my guest.

[lucio 5,418]

It is a crime to be 'bored' to the extent you are letting the whole club including the fans down while being paid insane amounts of money to do the opposite. If you are okay with this kind of mentality, then be my guest.

i dont think they are bored, just stagnant , and waiting for the manager to freshen it up.

[Fulham Broadway 17,810]

Champions League is the deciding factor on whether Jose stays or goes.

I fancy as long as we are in that then Roman will be fine. Failure to make the Quarters will be a problem for him, just as ineligibity to qualify for next year.

[herzogian 148]

Altough i would like to see us play with more flair, those kind of statements rile me up.

In the end, players are employees who earn hundreds of thousands of pounds each week so they shouldn't be bored and moaning about the what and the how and be professional and just do what they have been told to do

Someone on here posted a good article/video on how financial gains and bonuses only work up unto a certain level. If that level is reached money won't motivate employees, in this case players, anymore. On the contrary it is counterproductive. Why would a player who earns tens of millions still care anymore? Thats where the manager comes in, he(or she) has to find other ways to motivate the players, more freedom,autonomy and joint decision making for instance.

[Styles 9,790]

"Mourinho burns out his players after a year and a half, at most two years," Capello said on Fox Sports.

"I had already heard it when he was in Madrid and now we have confirmation in London.

"It is true that Chelsea are paying for some of their absences - like [Thibaut] Courtois - but there have also been tactical errors from the coach, who this year is not preparing for matches very well.