Fulham Broadway 17,332 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 We can't just assume that all of the failings in the transfer market were all the board's fault and have nothing to do with Jose. For example, he made it VERY clear that the Falcao signing was his idea and desire. He also never even hinted that he was looking for a top fullback who can come into the starting XI. He thought he could get the best out of Falcao- that hasnt happened, but Falcao and Remy should be more than adequate cover. As for a fullback, the board have been too stingy imo with regard to Stones, either of the Manc clubs or even liverpool would have coughed up what they want. Stones has covered at RB before. This was the plan until Terrys legs had gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdot 58 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Very happy with the club statement. stroey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,943 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 given the option to manage chelsea and liverpool, who would u choose?liverpool have not even made an approach till now.also, even if klopp is unavailable, my first criteria remains. anyone who puts the club ahead than his ego. anyone who does not choose his team according to height than ability.JT as an interim player/manager.Liverpool are without a manager NOW, though. Are you going to go to Klopp and say "wait until the end of the season and we MAY sack Mourinho?" He strikes me as a guy who will be romanticizing about the "history and prestige" of Liverpool and will jump at the chance to manage them.And you really think a player manager with no experience can do a better job than one of the best in football history? Come on, mate. Blue Armour and Fulham Broadway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Blue_Fox_ 2,086 Posted October 5, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 5, 2015 Club believes in manager and squadhttp://www.chelseafc.com/news/latest-news/2015/10/club-believes-in-manager-and-squad.html History is being made for this club right now. Be it for the better or the worse i'm proud!Now le'ts go, we've a lot of work to do!WIN OR LOSE UP THE BLUES!!!!! iceboy, Viper22, Fulham Broadway and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DYC. 7,542 Posted October 5, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 5, 2015 I'm sorry but anyone suggesting the failure to buy a midfielder and defender (Djilo and Baba don't count apparently) is the cause of this mess is out of their mind. Jose and the boys have simply failed in epic proportions. Barbara, Clockwork, The Skipper and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Pizy 18,943 Posted October 5, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 5, 2015 I'm sorry but anyone suggesting the failure to buy a midfielder and defender (Djilo and Baba don't count apparently) is the cause of this mess is out of their mind. Jose and the boys have simply failed in epic proportions.You really think that if we had landed Stones (who was superb until he got injured) and a top class midfielder we'd be in this position now? They would've made a huge difference.It has been proven time and time again that new, top class signings energize and raise the morale of the current players. Eidur the Spider, Viper22, Reddish-Blue and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Club believes in manager and squadhttp://www.chelseafc.com/news/latest-news/2015/10/club-believes-in-manager-and-squad.html Uh oh. It's the dreaded vote of confidence.Don't see what's the big deal with the club releasing a statement to back Mourinho. Yes, it's the first time we've done that under Roman but it's the same as the Director of Football, Chairman etc coming out to support the manager in public. A few more bad results this month and he'll likely get the sack. Henrique 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,943 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 If we draw, let alone lose to Aston Villa, with the repeating offenders of Fabregas and Ivanovic on that pitch, get him out. In fact, if he dares to start Ivanovic and Fabregas next game, he clearly hasn't learnt his lesson. Sick of those untouchables.And if we DO somehow beat Villa with Ivanovic and Fab playing, it's paper over the cracks and will be back to our losing-selves the following game. I have ZERO faith with this manager until he drops those two. End of.Think Fabregas is a shoe in. Do feel he'll finally drop Ivanovic. For that one game, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! DYC. 7,542 Posted October 5, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 5, 2015 You really think that if we had landed Stones (who was superb until he got injured) and a top class midfielder we'd be in this position now? They would've made a huge difference.It has been proven time and time again that new, top class signings energize and raise the morale of the current players.No defender in the world can fix the shambles that is Chelsea's backline, especially not John Stones. John Stones, seriously?Chelsea's problem isn't individual ability. The 11 players on the pitch aren't functioning together. Any kind of cohesion is lost. They look like a bunch of strangers. Far from a well-coached unit.It's unbelievable something like this could happen but it happened. I'm starting to realise/accept it will take a while to fix. Peace., EMK, couris and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Gilvorak 3,734 Posted October 5, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 5, 2015 You really think that if we had landed Stones (who was superb until he got injured) and a top class midfielder we'd be in this position now? They would've made a huge difference.It has been proven time and time again that new, top class signings energize and raise the morale of the current players.Get outta here. We're 16th not battling for 5th. Even Messi wouldn't solve this mess. Belgiannutt, Tomo, Hybrid Angel and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Of course the players aren't all blameless but is it not the role of the manager to be a motivator too? If Mourinho can't do something about the poor motivation (why are they poorly motivated in the first place?) he simply isn't doing his job very well.I get what you're saying but if these players - who are currently the English champions - can't even motivate themselves to compete and achieve victory (which is the basic target of every professional sportsman) at the very least, then what's the point of them being footballers? Might as well just pick 11 random Chelsea fans and they'll likely show more hunger, desire and passion to fight for the club and the shirt they're wearing. Blue Armour, herzogian, Viper22 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thendo 1,088 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Great to see the club backing the manager in times like these. If we finally want to keep a top manager around for the long run and not be seen as the club with the revolving door philosophy as we have before, we should'nt pull the trigger so soon after he guided us to a long awaited PL title even if we do look like a mess atm. But I really hope he uses this break to work on some fresh ideas, maybe try some new formations/tactics. Something really needs to happen, but sacking José at this very moment is not the best solution in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,943 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Get outta here. We're 16th not battling for 5th. Even Messi wouldn't solve this mess.Bullshit.If we had Stones (or any top CB) and a star midfielder like Koké/Pogba etc from day 1 and played Baba in place of Ivanovic so he'd gel with the team we wouldn't be anywhere near as bad.People placing the huge majority of blame on the manager are blind. An equal amount or more goes on players performing embarrassingly. Take out a couple of them and replace them with other (better) ones and we'd be better off. He had the opportunity and the desire to bring those players in and we failed to do so. stroey, Viper22 and ZOS 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetsajCFC 1,255 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Get outta here. We're 16th not battling for 5th. Even Messi wouldn't solve this mess.You're saying it like it's April or May already, its early October. Get a grip, seriously. We have a realistic chance of turning it around and even winning something. Kieran. and stroey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 The post match games and the late start to the summer training are correlated ... and Jose has a say in that, I blieveNot when it comes to post-season tours. No manager in their right mind would agree to having the players travel abroad and play against some random teams after a long season. It's because the club care so much about $$$$$ that we have had post-season games twice in 3 years.Well this is only the first step.The problem I mentioned before as well is that if the club is going to back him like Wenger, then they need to give him more power like Wenger.The reason why SAF and Wenger have stayed a long time is because they have total control.Will never work with any manager to stay a long time if he is limited in control.Well, if Mourinho wants to get more power, then he needs to earn it. He needs to show the willingness to change, adapt and be flexible because right now, his stubbornness and management style are not convincing many people. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 We wanted RLC but he drops Matic for him ffs. What's wrong with this guy? Matic needs to be in the pivot with RLC! FABREGAS NEEDS TO BE DROPPED!!!!!!!!!!!!! It also looks like he is using excuses to back Ivanovic smh! I've lost all the confidence I've had after I read his interview............ Something always has to be wrong with his selections ALWAYS killer1257 and Bosnian Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Jase 43,479 Posted October 5, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 5, 2015 Of course Jose won't be sacked! This mess isn't his fault! He is the best manager on the planet, hopefully the plastics will pipe down now! Jose and the players will turn this around and the clueless people who have been embarrassing themselves having meltdowns will be left feeling very stupid.Seriously people, if you want to make a point about something, just make it. Don't need to go around calling other fans 'haters', 'fanboys', 'plastics' etc. Like I said yesterday, such posts only serve to create a toxic atmosphere, which we do not want to see on TalkChelsea. If you don't agree with the opinion of others, then argue, debate, discuss in a polite manner. Otherwise, agree to disagree and/or learn to ignore them! Stats, didierforever, Hybrid Angel and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 No no I agree with you but stop with your negativity mate. Try to think in different way. It's like your club is your enemy right now. the club is not my enemy. but the person making the wrong decisions for the club is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Liverpool are without a manager NOW, though. Are you going to go to Klopp and say "wait until the end of the season and we MAY sack Mourinho?" He strikes me as a guy who will be romanticizing about the "history and prestige" of Liverpool and will jump at the chance to manage them.And you really think a player manager with no experience can do a better job than one of the best in football history? Come on, mate.did not pep do exactly that with bayern?we wanted him and he told us to shove it up our asses.so if we give him a pre-contract or fire jose NOW. why would not he take the job?the player manager will make decisions for the benefit of the club. not for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 5, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 5, 2015 You really think that if we had landed Stones (who was superb until he got injured) and a top class midfielder we'd be in this position now? They would've made a huge difference.It has been proven time and time again that new, top class signings energize and raise the morale of the current players. Yeah, we'd probably be all the way up in 11th had we gotten them! I'm sorry, but I despise this nonsensical mentality. Individual quality is obviously a factor but our problems run A LOT deeper. If it were solely on individual quality then how in the world are we in 16th when we have better individual quality than every team in the EPL apart from 2 or 3?! This is basically the same XI that walked the league last season!!Oversimplifying the issues to one or two buys is running away from the real problems in my eyes. We have to realize that confidence, motivation, mentality, tactics, physical readiness...etc. have all been equally important if not more so than one or two signings. couris, BlueSunshine, Clockwork and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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