Fernando 6,585 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I suspect that quite a few of our signings since he's been back have been board signings rather than José ones. Cuadrado, Salah, Schürrle, Djilobodji, Baba...He likely gave the "okay" to these players but I highly doubt they're all his choices.That's easy to say. So only the good ones are all Mourinho and all the bad ones are not Mourinho. I'm still waiting to hear why no one ask him how he can have so much patience for a 30 year old guy but can do it for a young guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 The club/board only gave him Begovic after selling Cech . They let him have Falcao on loan until after the disaster at Man city, aswell as shipping out or losing Drogba, Luis, Salah etc. Say what you want about their abilities but they were squad players and we had a small squad already before letting them depart.The club failed to back Jose in the summer and now we are suffering because of it.That said, I think Jose has to take some responsibility, but not all of it. Like he said we all (the club) need to take responsibility.Look what happened last year when they listened to him and he got his players in and did their business early. Bottom line hes one of the top 3 managers in the World. I can see a big January panic coming. Similar to torres/Luiz a few years back.The board shouldn't be at fault that we are relegation form. Nothing should bring that about. That's down to the players and managers. Player who are under performing and manager that keeps playing the under performing players. The Skipper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Mourinho promises Loftus-Cheek he will start Chelsea's next match as Chelsea boss turns to youth amid crisis period.Ruben Loftus-Cheek to get extended run of games for Chelsea as Jose Mourinho looks to England Under 21 midfielder in bid to turn his side's fortunes around.Ruben Loftus-Cheek will start in Chelsea's next game against Aston Villa.Midfielder is with England Under 21 ahead of their clash with Kazakhstan.Jose Mourinho has told the 19-year-old to be prepared to start on Oct 17.Manager said a young player may feel less pressure than senior ones.Chelsea are 16th in the Premier League with just two wins this season.LINK. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3260308/Ruben-Loftus-Cheek-extended-run-games-Chelsea-Jose-Mourinho-looks-youth-bid-cure-s-blues.html------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------This would be the greatest news of the season. If Ruben Loftus-Cheek plays in our starting eleven the next 7 matches (until the next break for the national matches) he will be totally indisputable for us. Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a chosen capable of leading our midfield as our main midfielder.Jose would be very smart if he decides to bet everything on Ruben Loftus-Cheek from the next game. A decision that can change our season because RLC is our future.Regards. Blue_Fox_ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZOS 580 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 How were the post season matches anything to do with Jose? That was a money making exercise 100% and was completely down to the higher ups at our club. If Mourinho could have a say i'm sure like any other manager he'd rather have let the players have an extra 2 weeks rest than a pointless tour that does no good. The post match games and the late start to the summer training are correlated ... and Jose has a say in that, I blieve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Mourinho promises Loftus-Cheek he will start Chelsea's next match as Chelsea boss turns to youth amid crisis period.Ruben Loftus-Cheek to get extended run of games for Chelsea as Jose Mourinho looks to England Under 21 midfielder in bid to turn his side's fortunes around.Ruben Loftus-Cheek will start in Chelsea's next game against Aston Villa.Midfielder is with England Under 21 ahead of their clash with Kazakhstan.Jose Mourinho has told the 19-year-old to be prepared to start on Oct 17.Manager said a young player may feel less pressure than senior ones.Chelsea are 16th in the Premier League with just two wins this season.LINK. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3260308/Ruben-Loftus-Cheek-extended-run-games-Chelsea-Jose-Mourinho-looks-youth-bid-cure-s-blues.html------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------This would be the greatest news of the season. If Ruben Loftus-Cheek plays in our starting eleven the next 7 matches (until the next break for the national matches) he will be totally indisputable for us. Ruben Loftus-Cheek is a chosen capable of leading our midfield as our main midfielder.Jose would be very smart if he decides to bet everything on Ruben Loftus-Cheek from the next game. A decision that can change our season because RLC is our future.Regards.Actions speak louder then words. When the game against the Israeli team came he made some good changes. But then he soon went back to his usual self. So that being said, giving one game here and there don't mean much unless it's sustainable game time. Barbara and supporter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 The club/board only gave him Begovic after selling Cech . They let him have Falcao on loan until after the disaster at Man city, aswell as shipping out or losing Drogba, Luis, Salah etc. Say what you want about their abilities but they were squad players and we had a small squad already before letting them depart.The club failed to back Jose in the summer and now we are suffering because of it.That said, I think Jose has to take some responsibility, but not all of it. Like he said we all (the club) need to take responsibility.Look what happened last year when they listened to him and he got his players in and did their business early. Bottom line hes one of the top 3 managers in the World. I can see a big January panic coming. Similar to torres/Luiz a few years back.We can't just assume that all of the failings in the transfer market were all the board's fault and have nothing to do with Jose. For example, he made it VERY clear that the Falcao signing was his idea and desire. He also never even hinted that he was looking for a top fullback who can come into the starting XI. He said from the start that Baba would fill the Luis role, i.e. a rotation option for cups and ULC group matches. On any account, regardless of the transfer business, the current squad with all the quality we have should never be in the position that we are in regardless of form. Belgiannutt, DYC., Fernando and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 The fucking whole lot of them are to blame, the manager, the players the lot. Gutless again on the pitch on Saturday, no fucking fight what so ever, caving in when we concede and ambling around the field looking like they don't care. As for Mourinho, well were do you start? You keep constantly putting these under performing players on the field, you live by the sword and you die by it. A 7 minute rant hiding behind the so called failures of a ref when it runs much deeper than that, but his ability to talk shit and act shit is prominent right now.I now read that RLC is being readied for Villa, you mean something that should of been done weeks ago when certain players in midfield have been shite since? All of a sudden now the shit is hitting the fan we sit up in our ivory tower and look to the kids because the old favorites aren't doing it? Should of been done weeks and weeks ago. The failure to change things is another absolute travesty- Baba Rahman, bought for big money should be shot in the fold, but no, keep things as they are, we don't want to upset individuals who are playing shite now do we?They need to man the fuck up, so does Jose and if they had half the passion I have for Chelsea we wouldn't be talking about caring. :clap: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,960 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 :clap: Who do you want to replace José? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 does jose have napoleon syndrome maybe an inferiority complexor is it just a fetish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Actions speak louder then words. When the game against the Israeli team came he made some good changes. But then he soon went back to his usual self. So that being said, giving one game here and there don't mean much unless it's sustainable game time. Hi friend!Agree.IMO Ruben Loftus-Cheek has to have continuity in our starting eleven to have a real performance. Not just a game with new faces and after that game use the same "old school" forever.Jose has to forget about the "old school". Win Premier League this season is impossible. Now we have to use our young players (or other players with ambition) in Premier League, FA Cup and League Cup (Champions League is another story) and Ruben Loftus-Cheek has to be the main star of our new project for this season.Our next games before the break for the national matches are Aston Villa, Dinamo Kiev, West Ham, Stones City (League Cup), Liverpool, Dinamo Kiev and Stoke City, and Ruben Loftus-Cheek must begin in all those games to see if he is ready or not to be important for us. That's the only way. Fernando and manpe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Club believes in manager and squadhttp://www.chelseafc.com/news/latest-news/2015/10/club-believes-in-manager-and-squad.html Well that's good. I said I don't like this guy and would have liked him gone at the end of the season. But if the club was okay with all this and was going to back him like they do Wenger, then good. That is far better then nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,154 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Right, now that that's clear it's time for players to start standing up and fight. Blue Armour, iceboy and Viper22 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Good thing from Chelsea. This is what all we need. Now we must stick together and turn this around.Well this is only the first step. The problem I mentioned before as well is that if the club is going to back him like Wenger, then they need to give him more power like Wenger. The reason why SAF and Wenger have stayed a long time is because they have total control. Will never work with any manager to stay a long time if he is limited in control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Pacquiao 1,834 Posted October 5, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 5, 2015 Of course Jose won't be sacked! This mess isn't his fault! He is the best manager on the planet, hopefully the plastics will pipe down now! Jose and the players will turn this around and the clueless people who have been embarrassing themselves having meltdowns will be left feeling very stupid. stroey, iceboy, Blue_Fox_ and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Who do you want to replace José?anyone who can make the right decision for CHELSEA FOOTBALL CLUB rather than the right decision for his ego.and as a name, the first person that comes to mind is klopp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,960 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 anyone who can make the right decision for CHELSEA FOOTBALL CLUB rather than the right decision for his ego.and as a name, the first person that comes to mind is klopp.Well, he's going to be Liverpool's manager within days so who then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! didierforever 7,349 Posted October 5, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted October 5, 2015 this is not to someone in particular.but i honestly feel calling someone/anyone a "PLASTIC" is the biggest form of abuse for a football fan.no amount of racism, abuse, name calling can come close to it.if any person deserves a ban/warning, its the assholes who call other members a plastic just cos they are stupid enough not to be able to comprehend what other members are saying. Mana, lionsden, Muzchap and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Well, he's going to be Liverpool's manager within days so who then?given the option to manage chelsea and liverpool, who would u choose?liverpool have not even made an approach till now.also, even if klopp is unavailable, my first criteria remains. anyone who puts the club ahead than his ego. anyone who does not choose his team according to height than ability.JT as an interim player/manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,064 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 Looks like he's staying put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didierforever 7,349 Posted October 5, 2015 Share Posted October 5, 2015 I think u have lost a little bit mate.ok, so i should go about calling people plastic cause u dont agree with me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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