Sheva. 5,373 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Might as well just give Lukaku a chance then if we're going to sign a striker that isn't better than what we have now.You're usually always spot on, but not on this. Soldado is quality, check his goal record at Valencia, he has been the highest scoring Spanish striker for a while now, but Del Bosque wrongly ignored him. Now he has gotten his chance and i cant see anyone displacing him atm.Would love him here, and i've actually said this twice before and has nothing to do with his goal today. Chelsea? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 On topic, his performance today was like when i watched him vs Bayern at Allianz. Did nothing all game, couldn't even hold onto the ball as the Bavarians bossed the game and Mario Goal-mez got a hat-trick Now it's not really a fair way to judge him, that's basically 2 games vs 2 really good teams with a clearly inferior side. I'm sure if his side played better and created chances for him, he would have scored - but this is something many other strikers can do, and they don't cost 63m The Rising Sun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 You're usually always spot on, but not on this. Soldado is quality, check his goal record at Valencia, he has been the highest scoring Spanish striker for a while now, but Del Bosque wrongly ignored him. Now he has gotten his chance and i cant see anyone displacing him atm.Would love him here, and i've actually said this twice before and has nothing to do with his goal today.Yeah, I know you're a fan of Soldado, you've said plenty of times before . He's a good striker for sure, definitely Spain's best out and out striker at this moment - his goal ratio at Valencia is insane it must be said but I don't view him as an elite striker, with all due respect, which is why I said I'd rather us give Lukaku a chance to develop mainly because I'm not sure he'd be as suited to the PL as someone like Cavani is which is of course my personal opinion. I'm of the opinion that if we're not going to get an elite striker in then we might as well just give Lukaku the chance to develop. Rambo and BlueDude 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 63 million is a joke. They should subtract 5 million off of that every game he doesn't score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 It would be funny for Cavani to end the Confederations Cup without a goal. Then we'll see who pays 63 million for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheva. 5,373 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 It would be funny for Cavani to end the Confederations Cup without a goal. Then we'll see who pays 63 million for him.He must score against Tahiti, no excuse.Yeah, I know you're a fan of Soldado, you've said plenty of times before . He's a good striker for sure, definitely Spain's best out and out striker at this moment - his goal ratio at Valencia is insane it must be said but I don't view him as an elite striker, with all due respect, which is why I said I'd rather us give Lukaku a chance to develop mainly because I'm not sure he'd be as suited to the PL as someone like Cavani is which is of course my personal opinion.I'm of the opinion that if we're not going to get an elite striker in then we might as well just give Lukaku the chance to develop.Yeah he's not an elite striker, but he scores just as many goals as any striker you put him up against. Plus he's better than Torres and Ba combined, so i'd sleep easily if we're going into the season with Soldado, Lukaku and one of Torres or Ba - instead of Torres, Ba and Lukaku. He also shouldn't cost anything more than 25m, so we will have no problem still improving the pivot and getting a CB. kellzfresh, nono and The Skipper 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Problem is when we're involved the prices get to the point where the transfer becomes unattractive. I'd love Soldado but I don't think we'll be able to get him for a good price. So if we're overpaying anyways I'd rather overpay for someone better, unless it's extremely exorbitant like Cavani. One thing for sure imo is that even if we can't get Cavani, we have to look to improve on Torres. That either means just giving Lukaku a chance or bringing someone else in. Lukaku can do the job imo. It's a gamble obviously but with little downside and huge upside. We got Lukaku for around 20m and he's way surpassed expectations for his loan. So what is his true worth now ? 23-25 m euros ? He scored basically a goal every two games despite often coming off the bench. He just turned 20. That is amazing imo. He deserves a full chance here as a starter. The Skipper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenhazard17 281 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 He must score against Tahiti, no excuse.Every goal he scored against Tahiti, his price went up 5 million. I expected 4 goals. nono 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustinC 136 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Problem is when we're involved the prices get to the point where the transfer becomes unattractive. I'd love Soldado but I don't think we'll be able to get him for a good price. So if we're overpaying anyways I'd rather overpay for someone better, unless it's extremely exorbitant like Cavani. One thing for sure imo is that even if we can't get Cavani, we have to look to improve on Torres. That either means just giving Lukaku a chance or bringing someone else in. Lukaku can do the job imo. It's a gamble obviously but with little downside and huge upside. We got Lukaku for around 20m and he's way surpassed expectations for his loan. So what is his true worth now ? 23-25 m euros ? He scored basically a goal every two games despite often coming off the bench. He just turned 20. That is amazing imo. He deserves a full chance here as a starter.I would agree. Not much to lose giving a striker a chance that we've already bought. I think even if we get Cavani or whoever i'd love to see Lukaku get some matches next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nono 791 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Who are the other up and coming strikers in football right now ? I'm thinking about someone like Cavani when he was at Parma, a player who we can get for cheap but has huge potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edenhazard17 281 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 no it doesn't seem like in the end everyone will be the same?!? The window isnt even opened yet and youve decided thats it. This place is madI am talking about Cavani and Lewandowski here that seems like going nowhere, not about every single player in the world will stay in their respective club, mate.Related to the transfer window, I think the circumtances will be the same, whether right now or after it is officialy open in 1st July. There will be full of stupid rumours and tweets everywhere, everyday. No difference than now. The only exception is a deadline day.If we really interested in signing one player, it can be done as fast as possible (like Schurrle), doesn't have to wait until the transfer window is opened first.This place is mad from the very beginning. That's one of the reason why I decided to join this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Who are the other up and coming strikers in football right now ? I'm thinking about someone like Cavani when he was at Parma, a player who we can get for cheap but has huge potential. I'd go for Damiao at this point. He's injured and haven't been playing very well lately... perfect time for an honest bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Mikel OBE 4,920 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 His display against Spain from a play standpoint was expected. Spain are clearly the better side, the disappointing aspect was the fact that he showed almost none of the fight you would want from a striker costing as much as he will.You compare that to Suarez today and they were miles apart. Suarez had a terrible game too, but he fought. Hes an awful guy, but there is no doubt in anybodies mind that he would do anything to win. Cavani did not have even half of the fight Suarez showed.Of course its a useless tournament and whatever, but you are playing for a new club and contract. This is the last we'll see of you before the window opens in two weeks...you think it would mean more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Who are the other up and coming strikers in football right now ? I'm thinking about someone like Cavani when he was at Parma, a player who we can get for cheap but has huge potential. Palermo you mean? There are a few. Off the top of my head in the PL we've got our own Lukaku, Benteke and Sturridge are good shouts. In Spain you have the likes of Luis Muriel, Italy there's Balotelli, El Sharaawy, Jovetic etc. nono and kellzfresh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NiclasCFC 2,582 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Palermo you mean? There are a few. Off the top of my head in the PL we've got our own Lukaku, Benteke and Sturridge are good shouts. In Spain you have the likes of Luis Muriel, Italy there's Balotelli, El Sharaawy, Jovetic etc.Luis Muriel plays for Udinese in the Serie A mate. Beepu and The Skipper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Luis Muriel plays for Udinese in the Serie A mate.And Bony, Guidetti of City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Luis Muriel plays for Udinese in the Serie A mate.I always think Udinese play in the La Liga haha. My mistake. NiclasCFC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.F. 1,484 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 http://www.skybet.com/football/transfer-specials/event/15016833 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 http://www.skybet.com/football/transfer-specials/event/15016833Doesn't mean anything whatsoever. They know as much as we do. ulsterchelsea and yuvala 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Term-X 7,891 Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Lukaku with Torres & Ba on the bench will do.. until January, where we can panic reassess from there. Peace., CHOULO19 and BlueLion. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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