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Chelsea deal for Kounde looks over

https://theathletic.com/2796473/2021/08/30/ornstein-edwards-expected-to-leave-liverpool-kounde-Chelsea-deal-unlikely-arsenal-lose-coach-garry/

Chelsea have halted their proposed signing of defender Jules Kounde and are not expected to resurrect the deal unless Sevilla reduce their asking price.

The France international looked certain to be the next expensive arrival at Stamford Bridge following the £98.5 million acquisition of Romelu Lukaku.

As The Athletic revealed in July, Chelsea have been pursuing the centre-back for two years and were pushing to get a deal done this summer. Sources have also revealed how coach Thomas Tuchel has been talking about his potential arrival with members of the senior squad.

But in a dramatic turn of events, Chelsea have decided to stop their pursuit because Sevilla suddenly increased the asking price. It is believed Chelsea thought they had a verbal agreement already in place over the fee, but the La Liga club are now said to be requesting €15 million (around £12.8 million) more than was originally discussed.

Chelsea have opted not to increase their offer and, if Sevilla do not lower their demands, are set to stick with their existing options, possibly with the proviso of addressing the situation in January.

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1 minute ago, Hermione said:

Not really we already have Chalobah.

True enough but still, its a position we are weaker in now with the sale of Kurt, even if he isn’t the best player out there. 

Chalobahs done well but we have to expect that he is not the finished article and may have games in midfield also this season if we don’t go for a midfielder.

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CB's we still have as of this minute

  
Andreas Christensen  
Antonio Rüdiger    
Thiago Silva
César Azpilicueta     (RB, RWB too)
Reece James            (RB, RWB too)
Trevoh Chalobah

 

these need to go out on loan ASAP:


Ethan Ampadu  
Malang Sarr 
Lewis Baker    (played well there in pre season)

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Well if Sevilla gave us a deadline of when the verbal agreement lasts until, then thats on us. But if they didnt then thats a pretty dodgy thing for them to do.

But we'll probably never know...

 

Also if we dont get a CB then we need a CM, we cannot go without both.

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1 hour ago, Blues Forever said:

I don't mind missing out on Kounde, but we do need another CB since we already sold Zouma.

Trevoh Chalobah looks set to stay so we have already replaced Zouma. Having five CBs for three places in the team wasn't a problem last season so I don't see it becoming a big issue now either if Kounde can't be signed.

I'd happily take Kounde if a deal can be done with reasonable prices because it's always good to prepare for the future as well, but I don't think it's a must-have signing. Maybe not getting Kounde now when he's available will come back to bite us later if he goes to another club (ie. Real Madrid) next year and becomes one of the best in the world for the next decade but for the current season I don't see much of a difference whether he's signed or not.

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5 minutes ago, Jype said:

Trevoh Chalobah looks set to stay so we have already replaced Zouma. Having five CBs for three places in the team wasn't a problem last season so I don't see it becoming a big issue now either if Kounde can't be signed.

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Andreas Christensen  
Antonio Rüdiger    
Thiago Silva
César Azpilicueta     (RB, RWB too)
Reece James            (RB, RWB too)
Trevoh Chalobah

 

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Just now, Vesper said:

counting loan fees and sales minus Lukaku

atm we have made around £15-20m in profit, roflmao

And yet Sevilla raising the price by £12m is a deal breaker? Makes no sense.

While missing out on Koundé this summer isn’t devastating, the problem now will be that if he has another great season in Spain many other top clubs will be back in for him this time next year. We had a free run at him this summer and he was apparently extremely keen on coming here.

We’ll probably be targeting Rice who will cost £100m so we won’t have money to spend on him next summer. This is why getting him in early right now made sense.

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19 minutes ago, Vesper said:

6

Andreas Christensen  
Antonio Rüdiger    
Thiago Silva
César Azpilicueta     (RB, RWB too)
Reece James            (RB, RWB too)
Trevoh Chalobah

True, James can cover in the back-3 as well but I counted only five for the CBs because unless CHO (or someone else) starts playing regularly at wing-back then one of James/Azpi has to play RWB always so it basically becomes six players for four positions (three CB and RWB). Not an ideal amount of depth for a long season and one more would be preferable, whether it's additional wing-back cover or another CB. 

Looking at the Wolves game last night I really wouldn't mind having Adama Traore as RWB. Shit end product but his pace and dribbling ability is insane, I could see him flourishing as RWB in Tuchel's system.

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1 hour ago, Pizy said:

Why on earth would we sell Zouma before any Koundé deal was also sealed and signed simultaneously? 😑😑😑

If you’d have told us at the start of the window that we’d only make 1 signing I don’t think anyone would’ve believed it. 

It's when people start to panic and get told calm down there is time...

Well...once again there isn't...we've been through this many times..usually silence means nothing is happening not things are going on behind the scenes

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35 minutes ago, Vesper said:

CB's we still have as of this minute

  
Andreas Christensen  
Antonio Rüdiger    
Thiago Silva
César Azpilicueta     (RB, RWB too)
Reece James            (RB, RWB too)
Trevoh Chalobah

 

these need to go out on loan ASAP:


Ethan Ampadu  
Malang Sarr 
Lewis Baker    (played well there in pre season)

Maybe we should let one of the dregs stay to make up the numbers if we really want another cb for cover. Esp if we let CHO leave on loan, we might be forced ot use RJ as RWB only and Azpi there more as well.

In general I am not too worried about quality due to the versatility of our players but it is a long ass season so we do need the numbers.

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27 minutes ago, Pizy said:

And yet Sevilla raising the price by £12m is a deal breaker? Makes no sense.

While missing out on Koundé this summer isn’t devastating, the problem now will be that if he has another great season in Spain many other top clubs will be back in for him this time next year. We had a free run at him this summer and he was apparently extremely keen on coming here.

We’ll probably be targeting Rice who will cost £100m so we won’t have money to spend on him next summer. This is why getting him in early right now made sense.

 

fuck Rice

only MFer remotely available worth close to £85 to 100m is Barella (the next Kante)

THAT is who need to go after next summer

but Aurélien Tchouaméni NOW

we are fucking crazy to not buy him

I have watched so so so much of him now

real deal

 

CB I want Bastoni, BUT Inter will never sell him AND Barella in same window

Lacroix or Botman are options still, I will adopt a wait and see attitude

the club obviously doesn't rate Romagnoli, as he is there for the taking, has been all window

I am not stressed out on CB atm

 

the things I am:

1 DMF/CMF

2 who the fuck is going to replace Mendy for 4 or 5 weeks for that shitbox AFCON???

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