Jype 6,398 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Kong said: That would still come under the category defending lol. 100% I'd rather have a big strong bastard who can throw these little strikers of the ball, put in strong challenges and have an presence in the air than just some 1 who can pass a ball. You just basically described Kurt Zouma and he was sold because those attributes didn't make him a good enough defender for what Tuchel and pretty much every modern top manager wants from his defenders. If a team is looking to control the game and rarely needs to have defenders pull some last ditch tackles or constantly clearing crosses in the air, having a defender who's 10/10 in defending and 6/10 with the ball on his feet is nowadays considered worse than someone who's a solid 8/10 at both. That's not me saying anything about Pau Torres btw, just a general observation. Edited July 27, 2022 by Jype Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Fofana looks a real talent, but do have to keep a little eye on his injury record beyond that leg break. Season before that I think he missed around 8 - 10 games for Leicester and the season before that in France he missed 10 - 12 games too. As a developing young player he's likely to pick up small strains and niggles, etc but it is something to just consider. Vesper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 minute ago, Jype said: You just basically described Kurt Zouma and he was sold because those attributes didn't make him a good enough defender for what Tuchel and pretty much every modern top manager wants from his defenders. If a team is looking to control the game and rarely needs to have defenders pull some last ditch tackles or constantly clearing crosses in the air, having a defender who's 10/10 in defending and 6/10 with the ball on his feet is nowadays considered worse than someone who's a solid 8/10 at both. I would agree. The question is Pau Torres 8/10 in both or is he in the opposite category where he's 10/10 on the ball but only 6/10 defending? OhForAGreavsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Just now, Superblue_1986 said: I would agree. The question is Pau Torres 8/10 in both or is he in the opposite category where he's 10/10 on the ball but only 6/10 defending? Yeah I just edited my post to say it was not meant to be about Pau Torres but rather just an observation. I don't know Torres enough to say where I would rate his skills both in defending and as a ball player. OhForAGreavsie and Superblue 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,928 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 I bet you anything that even our current players are wondering to themselves what’s going on and they know we haven’t strengthened nearly as much as some of our rivals. Another day where it doesn’t look like there’s any movement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 57 minutes ago, Kong said: That would still come under the category defending lol. 100% I'd rather have a big strong bastard who can throw these little strikers of the ball, put in strong challenges and have an presence in the air than just some 1 who can pass a ball. Most of those profile of defenders play for the West Brom's and Stoke's of this world. Look at City for example, apart from maybe Dias those defenders and keepers are relatively vulnerable 1 vs 1 but barely ever get exploited because they prevent well getting into those situations in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 534 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 🚨 Chelsea are interested in Benoit Badiashile, Monaco will not discuss for less than a £42m offer. (@Tanziloic) https://t.co/80WeJDHxnS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 34 minutes ago, Jype said: You just basically described Kurt Zouma and he was sold because those attributes didn't make him a good enough defender for what Tuchel and pretty much every modern top manager wants from his defenders. If a team is looking to control the game and rarely needs to have defenders pull some last ditch tackles or constantly clearing crosses in the air, having a defender who's 10/10 in defending and 6/10 with the ball on his feet is nowadays considered worse than someone who's a solid 8/10 at both. That's not me saying anything about Pau Torres btw, just a general observation. That's fine and we'll but for my personal preference defending always should come first priority then how good you are on the ball after. Never the other way round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,277 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 26 minutes ago, Tomo said: Most of those profile of defenders play for the West Brom's and Stoke's of this world. Look at City for example, apart from maybe Dias those defenders and keepers are relatively vulnerable 1 vs 1 but barely ever get exploited because they prevent well getting into those situations in the first place. I've bascally described our new Koulibaly to tee and he also can play the ball. Again your right dias is another brilliant defender. Silva aswell to an extent Rudiger was also in that category flip side AC was the ball playing centre half and 9/10 times had us pulling our hair out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyikolajevics 2,700 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Scrolling through the comments wheter there are some interesting rumours and current topics are etomology of surgery and power ranking USA presidents.. Can’t wait PL start… OhForAGreavsie, Magic Lamps, Superblue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,928 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Pau Torres just looks bang average to me. And Badiashile looks worse than average. Torres I would take as a last resort panic buy but I’d rather not buy anyone and stick with Chalobah as a starter than blow money on Badiashile. But I hope it hasn’t reached that desperate phase yet. Let us pray that we’re still after the top guys remaining like Skriniar, Gvardiol, or Fofana. mkh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,076 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Marvin123 said: Can we stick to transfer news or rumours please I really enjoyed reading @Vesper's post, had my say, then really enjoyed reading @Magic Lamps comments but I knew we were in for a telling off. 🙂 Back to the football it is.✔️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimmas 131 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, bigbluewillie said: Wouldn't I just love this fuck manure and brokeelona in one fell swoop🙌 Dutch midfielder Frenkie de Jong would only leave Barcelona for Chelsea but the London club are not prepared to pay as much as Manchester United for the 25-year-old. (Sport - in Spanish) Anyone may explain what the (logical) reason why de jong, could actually like and have strong desire to join us? Our current team not in strong condition to challenge for big title. Need a lot to rebuild, And also I assume, de jong thrive when play in possesion based team who play fluid football. But our team don't have that atm. This team doesn't play expansive/exciting football as good as the other elite club like (barca, bayern, liverpool, city). We are actually one of the poorer team when having possesion. Lacking quality player and lacking team structure to know what to do with the ball, a bit dysjoint attaking play, slow build up, etc. Or simply just ignore every de jong rumours, because those rumours just completely non sense? Edited July 27, 2022 by dimmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Norfolkblue1961, Blue Armour and DDA 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 I'm sure they will find some way around it, but it would be hilarious if they're in a position where they can't register all of them and have to pick and choose who they can add to the squad for La Liga. Norfolkblue1961 and bigbluewillie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesman2610 1,417 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Imagine signing for your dream club Barcelona and having to sit out the entire season because they can’t afford to register you. Vesper, bigbluewillie and Norfolkblue1961 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,492 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 9 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: I'm sure they will find some way around it, but it would be hilarious if they're in a position where they can't register all of them and have to pick and choose who they can add to the squad for La Liga. Maybe they will have the nice life of only playing Champions League games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin123 534 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 “I’ve been told today that we will probably contact Leicester City to gauge a feeling on Wesley Fofana due to their need to sell players, and our recent interest.” - @siphillipssport https://t.co/Frn0qeB9rb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: I'm sure they will find some way around it, but it would be hilarious if they're in a position where they can't register all of them and have to pick and choose who they can add to the squad for La Liga. Plus we should do nothing about it, surely not taking frenkie off them to facilitate their survival. would be fun if raphinhas contract is then terminated and he will be free agent not even sure we would need him. He is not exactly creative either is he. 9 assist in 100 Barca games also I read he has accepted a salary cut to be able to stay there… bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said: I'm sure they will find some way around it, but it would be hilarious if they're in a position where they can't register all of them and have to pick and choose who they can add to the squad for La Liga. I SO hope that De Jong fucks them, they so deserve it. bigbluewillie and Norfolkblue1961 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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