Chelsea Transfers

[LAM09 6,744]

16 hours ago, Blues Forever said:

The issue is we don't have a competent DoF and scouts (aside De Visser). 

This is the recent example of poor scouting, signed a player who have a confidence issue in the last 2-3 years. Then you also has Lukaku who clearly doesn't suit Tuchel's system.

That's a valid point. There had been talk about Ballack becoming our DoF for quite some time, but it never came to fruition. 

[Vesper 28,773]

Glad to see Pulisic's name in the old rumour barrel, even if it is fake news. Bust IMHO. We paid almost £60m for him.

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

57 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Rumours I have seen say Sule is all but confirmed to be leaving Bayern on a free.

@Magic Lamps and the other German posters, what is the feeling in Germany? 

Personally, I could see him as a direct replacement for Rudi. 

 

It’s not decided yet but the writing is on the wall he is a goner 

 Not sure we will pay him the wages we are not paying Toni tho 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,476]

Usually I would ignore this tweet, but I had to click it to see the source he is quoting. You dont get any lower of a source that Simon Phillips quoting Duncan Castles. I think the combination of those two using each other just ripped a whole in the time space continuum. 

 

 

[Vesper 28,773]

I think we are crazy to not try and scupper that £38m ( a fucking steal) sale of Ferran Torres to Barca from Citeh

that kid is going to be special and can play a straight up CF (he is almost 6 1 too, so has good height) if need be

he is vastly better than all our other wingers, and I think would be a great option at CF for some games instead of Lukaku (who I am so unhappy with)

I am still shocked Citeh are selling him

he is only 21yo and yet already has 22 caps and 12 goals (super return rate) for the Spanish Sr team

 

Edited December 26, 2021 by Vesper

[Stats 7,053]

3 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I think we are crazy to not try and scupper that £38m ( a fucking steal) sale of Ferran Torres to Barca from Citeh

that kid is going to be special and can play a straight up CF (he is almost 6 1 too, so has good height) if need be

he is vastly better than all our other wingers, and I think would be a great option at CF for some games instead of Lukaku (who I am so unhappy with)

I am still shocked Citeh are selling him

he is only 21yo and yet already has 22 caps and 12 goals (super return rate) for the Spanish Sr team

 

Vesper, he would not have got any more game time here than he was at City. The fee will be more than £38m too, roughly around £55m will reach (when clauses are likely met). 

Also he would not have been interested in coming here. He never fully settled in Manchester/England and wanted to return to Spain.

[Vesper 28,773]

20 minutes ago, Stats said:

Vesper, he would not have got any more game time here than he was at City. The fee will be more than £38m too, roughly around £55m will reach (when clauses are likely met). 

Also he would not have been interested in coming here. He never fully settled in Manchester/England and wanted to return to Spain.

I think he could and would bench any of our wingers

I do understand the Spain part, as his GF (Luis Enrique's daughter, talk abaut a good way to get Spain NT time, lol) lives in Barcelona

[Vesper 28,773]

1 minute ago, Vesper said:

I think he could and would bench any of our wingers

I do understand the Spain part, as his GF (Luis Enrique's daughter, talk abaut a good way to get Spain NT time, lol) lives in Barcelona

I fucking hate seeing Barca being given a lifeline

 

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

48 minutes ago, Stats said:

Vesper, he would not have got any more game time here than he was at City. The fee will be more than £38m too, roughly around £55m will reach (when clauses are likely met). 

Also he would not have been interested in coming here. He never fully settled in Manchester/England and wanted to return to Spain.

 

53 minutes ago, Vesper said:

I think we are crazy to not try and scupper that £38m ( a fucking steal) sale of Ferran Torres to Barca from Citeh

that kid is going to be special and can play a straight up CF (he is almost 6 1 too, so has good height) if need be

he is vastly better than all our other wingers, and I think would be a great option at CF for some games instead of Lukaku (who I am so unhappy with)

I am still shocked Citeh are selling him

he is only 21yo and yet already has 22 caps and 12 goals (super return rate) for the Spanish Sr team

 

No,I do think he would have gotten plenty of time here as he is better than all our wingers

the point is that city would never sell a decent player to us and also that he wants to return to Spain badly

also there seems to be an inside deal with city and Barca via txiki which probably runs deeper than obvious atm 

 

[Blues Forever 1,232]

Next week will be very important for Christensen's future at Chelsea. 

Edited December 26, 2021 by Blues Forever

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5 hours ago, Vesper said:

I think he could and would bench any of our wingers

I do understand the Spain part, as his GF (Luis Enrique's daughter, talk abaut a good way to get Spain NT time, lol) lives in Barcelona

 

4 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

 

No,I do think he would have gotten plenty of time here as he is better than all our wingers

the point is that city would never sell a decent player to us and also that he wants to return to Spain badly

also there seems to be an inside deal with city and Barca via txiki which probably runs deeper than obvious atm 

 

He would of got time. Either way he would no way of been a guaranteed starter here. Facts, he would of been used rotation as our other wingers. He was also being played as a no.9 for City this season.

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

[Vesper 28,773]

staggeringly poor contractual management so far

clown car level

Edited December 26, 2021 by Vesper

[Pizy 18,368]

15 minutes ago, Vesper said:

staggeringly poor contractual management so far

clown car level

Arsenal level management. Unless we find out afterwards that Rüdiger gets the biggest ever contract for a CB. If he wanted £250k or more a week I think it’s understandable that we walked away.

Going to be a big blow in the dressing room losing him, though. 

[chelsea_4_eva 1,157]

Well if its true that he wants to double what Chelsea are offering 140k and Real could do that, then thats it, as I think we will never go near that. Also keep in mind that we desperately wanted to sell him before TT came in, only when TT came in did he look like a different player. The formation helps him immensely.

[MoroccanBlue 5,296]

8 hours ago, Pizy said:

Arsenal level management. Unless we find out afterwards that Rüdiger gets the biggest ever contract for a CB. If he wanted £250k or more a week I think it’s understandable that we walked away.

Going to be a big blow in the dressing room losing him, though. 

 

3 hours ago, chelsea_4_eva said:

Well if its true that he wants to double what Chelsea are offering 140k and Real could do that, then thats it, as I think we will never go near that. Also keep in mind that we desperately wanted to sell him before TT came in, only when TT came in did he look like a different player. The formation helps him immensely.

Think it's all but confirmed from reputable sources (Matt Law) that Rudiger is pushing towards 300kpw. I heard the club offered him 170kpw max and will not budge, nor should they. I've still not seen enough to suggest he'd be an elite CB in a system that isn't as structured defensively as ours. 

Echo @Pizy. Losing him is going to be a big loss in the dressing room. Azpilicueta as well. Losing Silva on top of it will be a disaster. Club needs to be wise on who goes this summer along with who we bring in. No natural leaders bar our CBs. 

[Blue Armour 4,278]

19 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

 

Think it's all but confirmed from reputable sources (Matt Law) that Rudiger is pushing towards 300kpw. I heard the club offered him 170kpw max and will not budge, nor should they. I've still not seen enough to suggest he'd be an elite CB in a system that isn't as structured defensively as ours. 

Echo @Pizy. Losing him is going to be a big loss in the dressing room. Azpilicueta as well. Losing Silva on top of it will be a disaster. Club needs to be wise on who goes this summer along with who we bring in. No natural leaders bar our CBs. 

I still think we need to suck it up and offer the big contract to either one of Rudiger or Christensen, and hope that Silva stays on for another year. We are NOT going to get two quality CBs next year, given our track record.

Would prefer the club gave it to Rudiger, since you can clearly see who Tuchel prefers. With Chalobah coming up the ranks, we could make do without Christensen. 

 

Edited December 26, 2021 by Blue Armour

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11 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

 

Think it's all but confirmed from reputable sources (Matt Law) that Rudiger is pushing towards 300kpw. I heard the club offered him 170kpw max and will not budge, nor should they. I've still not seen enough to suggest he'd be an elite CB in a system that isn't as structured defensively as ours. 

Echo @Pizy. Losing him is going to be a big loss in the dressing room. Azpilicueta as well. Losing Silva on top of it will be a disaster. Club needs to be wise on who goes this summer along with who we bring in. No natural leaders bar our CBs. 

From what I've heard, it seems very similar to the Alaba situation; Bayern offered him quite a bit to renew, but RM blew it out of the water. If this happens to be the case, we ought to move on as @Pizy alluded to.