Chelsea Transfers

[Vesper 29,155]

1 hour ago, Superblue_1986 said:

You have to take into context that we brought six players in last summer all of whom could make a case for starting in our team and regardless are all very important players in the squad. I think all of them have or will benefit from the change of manager we made.

If you look at our starting/strongest XI it was clear that there was only one glaring position that needed strengthening. We could all debate over whether the wing backs are good enough, or another attacking midfielder could be signed, etc, but ultimately a goal scorer always felt like the missing piece for us and we addressed that with a huge investment.

United have brought three quality players but did they really need to add to their attack two more players in the area that is strongest in their squad. They're biggest hole is in midfield, and Ole never seems to address it. It's like Wenger back in the day with defenders and keepers, it's a weakness that every man and his dog seem to think is there except him.

We could do with another defender now Zouma has been sold, and a fourth centre midfielder but like some have said on here, that's not the easiest sell given the players already here. You also don't know behind the scenes what future transfer plans the club has, or the long term views Tuchel and the club have on a player like Gilmour for example who they may be hoping will benefit from this season on loan and can slot back into the squad next year. 

If we make more signings they have to be the right ones and not just settling for second best. We've done that before and it has set the club back as a result.

If we don't make any more signings then we roll with what we have. I think the addition of Lukaku makes us a stronger prospect regardless of anything else, and a core of our team are still young and will hopefully kick on again this season. It may mean we just retain a couple of players even as backup this year, like Sarr and RLC as an example.

We have zero traditional cruncher DMF's on the side. We have only 2 players who can even be called some type of DMF, granted both of them are Ballon d'Or level players atm IF they are healthy, which one now is not.

We only have one true CMF, Kova, plus Mount, who often is at AMF or wing. 

With Kante down, that means we only have 3 acceptable MF players who can play CMF/DMF.

Are we so stupid we are going roll with that and then (OMG) actually keep one or more of the 3 dregs? FFS it is not acceptable to have to resort to any of Drinkwater (utter dogshit, insane he is still here), RLC (perma wrecked from the Achilles, I have seen zero that gives me the slightest bit of confidence) or the massive underachiever Barkley.

[Blues Forever 1,232]

 

[Vesper 29,155]

7 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

No last minute buy out clause deals with spanish clubs for players who are unusually short for their position. We have made such bad experiences with this that we should refrain from this business altogether, even if the similarities between the deals end there.

Kepa himself is not unusually short at all, height wise. Plenty of good or great keepers now and in history within 2 to 3 cms either way. What is indeed abnormal are his short ass ARMS. It is a horrid problem far too often.

At least his confidence is back.

[Vesper 29,155]

9 minutes ago, Pizy said:

He may be a luxury this season, but Silva will be gone and Azpi has already slowed down these past couple of seasons. Koundé is a player for the next 10 years.

Kounde is soon 23. No chance we are rocking a 32, 33yo dwarf CB 9 or 10 years from now.

[Pizy 18,506]

5 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Kounde is soon 23. No chance we are rocking a 32, 33yo dwarf CB 9 or 10 years from now.

You really love making fun of his height, huh? 😒

Hasn't held him back from becoming one of the most highly rated young CB’s in Europe.

[Artandur 939]

Obligation 🥳

[Vesper 29,155]

1 minute ago, Pizy said:

You really love making fun of his height, huh? 😒

Hasn't held him back from becoming one of the most highly rated young CB’s in Europe.

I am not convinced. I resigned myself to his coming when Trevoh arose. I am sure there are games where Jules would excel in, but I shudder at the thought of him in a back 2 versus EPL bomb o' matic deluges of 'crossing to the beast CF(s)' wars. Thiago Silva (who is still 4 or 5 cm taller anyway) he ain't IMHO.

[Vesper 29,155]

3 minutes ago, Artandur said:

Obligation 🥳

Yes!!!

[Pizy 18,506]

Just thinking, what happens if the highly unfortunate happens and 2 of our midfielders are injured at the same time? The thought of having to play one of our CB’s there or moving Mount further back is annoying when we could go out and get someone now. Saul, Tchouameni, Camavinga. Someone.

Saul on loan with no obligation was the biggest no brainer. I just don’t get why the trigger wasn’t pulled in that one. It’s an absolute no-lose situation for the club.

Now we may see him or Camavinga go to to a rival before midnight tomorrow.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,538]

Saul did not want to be a 4th option.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,538]

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,320]

1 hour ago, NikkiCFC said:

65m is still closer for his market value than 50m which sounds like a joke offer.

It'll get done, but knowing Marina she will try and negotiate lower to his market value. It's what she does. 

It's why we hardly ever buy a player that meets their market value or is under it, it's because the selling clubs know we have money. 

 

Edited August 30, 2021 by MoroccanBlue

[chelsea_4_eva 1,163]

14 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Saul did not want to be a 4th option.

Thought it was more because Atletico couldnt find a replacement?

[ZAPHOD2319 4,538]

Just now, chelsea_4_eva said:

Thought it was more because Atletico couldnt find a replacement?

I have read both. Have no idea if either are the full picture.

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

My confidence re. Kounde has gone.  I've a feeling we are done

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

2 hours ago, Special Juan said:

We will get Kounde.

Im not so sure tbh.  Out of the 2 deals, him and Saul, i think Kounde is the only one with a chance of happening.   

 

Just feels like we've walked away

[Tomo 21,733]

19 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Saul on loan with no obligation was the biggest no brainer. I just don’t get why the trigger wasn’t pulled in that one. It’s an absolute no-lose situation for the club.

For the club, not for him.

This is the one downside of having such top class established option/options in one area, no one of any note will come to play squadie, look at all the strife Spurs go through trying to secure a Kane backup/alternative for example.

[Pizy 18,506]

1 minute ago, Tomo said:

For the club, not for him.

This is the one downside of having such top class established option/options in one area, no one of any note will come to play squadie, look at all the strife Spurs go through trying to secure a Kane backup/alternative for example.

I can’t imagine a top class sportsman like Saul would be thinking to himself “nah, I’ll never play there.” I mean, that’s what reports say but I find it hard to believe.

Someone like him should be thinking he’s better than Kova (rightly or wrongly) and that he’ll fight his way into the XI. And tbf, if he did regain his best form he’d easily displace one of our midfielders.