The Tuchel Thread

[Jase 43,479]

5 hours ago, Styl1994 said:

Worried Bayern will be looking at him we can’t lose him. 

Do people really think Tuchel will go to Bayern?

We all know Tuchel's history when it comes to dealing and falling out with the club's board and Bayern have one that is dominated by several individuals - e.g. Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, Hasan Salihamidzic.

Hansi Flick is quitting because of a rift with their sporting director and people think it won't happen with Tuchel?

Granted, it may happen here with Tuchel and Marina but at least he'll only have to deal with one person mainly as opposed to 2-3 other people. And there's also less politics here than at Bayern. 

[Jase 43,479]

Gotta say, when Tuchel was hired, I didn't expect him to set us up to play in a pragmatic way, even if it has been the right decision (for the short term at least). When he was hired, I thought he would set us up play in a more expansive way, set us up to play a football style that is more towards his reputation and what he did at Dortmund etc. Instead, he's been doing everything like an Italian manager, like what I thought Allegri would have done had we hired him. 

[Milan 17,853]

Do you remember back in 2008 and 2012 when Petr Cech sort of predicted our Champions League final chances based on his pick ups and feelings? That he did not like the Moscow setting, the colors, but he loved the Munich environment etc?

Well, well, well. I just heard him in an interview for a Czech TV and he really fancies this year's chances, and gave several similar findings and feelings just like in the past. He was focusing more on numbers but the result is the same 😁

It is official. We are winning this thing!

[milka 3,346]

 

[King Kante 1,476]

46 minutes ago, milka said:

 

Dave is criminally underrated by the football world by and large. 

[OneMoSalah 8,778]

15 minutes ago, King Kante said:

Dave is criminally underrated by the football world by and large. 

Criminally underrated by our fans more than anything. There have been so called Chelsea fans who were saying he was finished last season and the season before. 

[Miguelito 459]

1 hour ago, milka said:

 

The funny thing, they are also by far our 2 most frustrating players in possession. Both lose the ball when they shouldn't or find the wrong pass often (kante esp) that disrupts transition momentum. It's so annoying.

 

Not trying to take anything away from them, there's no perfect player. And I love them both. Absolutely brilliant players. But they are certainly limited. I think that's one of the reasons azpi is underappreciated at times. There's no flash or silky smoothness. 

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10 hours ago, Styl1994 said:

Worried Bayern will be looking at him we can’t lose him. 

No chance mate, no chance. I have utterly zero belief that he will leave for BM. You can clearly see he already loves Chels and will not just leave cuz Bayern come calling. He is ours.

1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

Criminally underrated by our fans more than anything. There have been so called Chelsea fans who were saying he was finished last season and the season before. 

TT has restored Azpi like JM did with JT in 2nd sting

[manpe 10,861]

2 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

Criminally underrated by our fans more than anything. There have been so called Chelsea fans who were saying he was finished last season and the season before. 

He is finished at RB imo, he's average there as he needs to bomb forward and track back with his declining pace. Not his strengths, James is better suited for running up and down the field all game long. However I don't think anybody ever wrote Azpi off at CB, this particular system suits him perfectly.

Tuchel is great, a tactical mastermind. One thing I also like about him is that he shows trust in his fringe players, like Kepa, to play in a big game like FA Cup semi-final. Many managers wouldn't have the balls, the backup keeper usually stops playing around the quarter/semi-final stages. This reinforces the feeling in the squad that literally everybody is important, which keeps them motivated and on their toes whenever called upon.

[MoroccanBlue 5,297]

8 hours ago, Jason said:

Gotta say, when Tuchel was hired, I didn't expect him to set us up to play in a pragmatic way, even if it has been the right decision (for the short term at least). When he was hired, I thought he would set us up play in a more expansive way, set us up to play a football style that is more towards his reputation and what he did at Dortmund etc. Instead, he's been doing everything like an Italian manager, like what I thought Allegri would have done had we hired him. 

We weren't really pragmatic until after the goal. Before that, thought we were relatively in control. Even bloody outpossessed a Guardiola side 70/30% in the first half. That for me is the difference between Tuchel and Conte/Allegri. The former looks to control whereas the latter look to sit back and react. We are lucky that Tuchel is clever enough with his game management and is something that many Germans feel he has the edge over Klopp. 

Edited April 18, 2021 by MoroccanBlue

[chippy 342]

Nonsense to say our fans have underrated Azpi.

I've never seen anyone say he's been anything less than a top player for us and one of the best value for money signings we've ever made. 

Some fans saying his legs have gone is not the same thing at all as underrating him.

 

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[Magic Lamps 11,653]

Our record in the big games is immaculate. Euro super league could be TT's competition

[killer1257 3,282]

4 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Our record in the big games is immaculate. Euro super league could be TT's competition

But will probably be Real Madrid's competition. They will buy the best of the best players again. 

 

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

1 minute ago, killer1257 said:

But will probably be Real Madrid's competition. They will buy the best of the best players again. 

 

maybe. when everyone is rich, the biggest brands win which would be Real and Manure... we will see.

[killer1257 3,282]

1 minute ago, Magic Lamps said:

maybe. when everyone is rich, the biggest brands win which would be Real and Manure... we will see.

I would say probably Barcelona and Real Madrid. I guess Neymar is going back to Barcelona lol. 

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7 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

I would say probably Barcelona and Real Madrid. I guess Neymar is going back to Barcelona lol. 

the English clubs if they do not kicked out of PL at least still have the edge of a competitive and better endowed domestic league. Also they are 6 so the odds of an English club dominating are at least numerically enhanced.

But yeah short term barca real are main beneficiaries as they once more evade bankcruptcy.

[Jase 43,479]

7 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

We weren't really pragmatic until after the goal. Before that, thought we were relatively in control. Even bloody outpossessed a Guardiola side 70/30% in the first half. That for me is the difference between Tuchel and Conte/Allegri. The former looks to control whereas the latter look to sit back and react. We are lucky that Tuchel is clever enough with his game management and is something that many Germans feel he has the edge over Klopp. 

I meant in general. Nothing to do with specific games. 

Yes, we are seeing elements of Tuchel's management style - the pressing, the counter pressing, the possession game etc - but the setup has largely been pragmatic. We have not seen the best(?) of Tuchel's playing style that he's renowned for at previous clubs.