Johnnyeye 7,510 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 i hope this is a wake up call for Lamps to start Jorginho more, he knows how to control the tempo of the game. No more Christensen in defense for a while pls, just pair Zouma with Rudiger next game, James had a shocker, Pulisic was immense as always, the lad is just class and can only get better. We needed the win and got it, altough it was a shit show defensively, but we need to finish games off, too many missed chances again 😤 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azul 1,615 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 13 minutes ago, Pizy said: Reece James has that same problem that RLC does. They both have all the physical tools to be monstrous, freak footballers but they are both so nonchalant, loose, and lackadaisical. If they had aggressive, assertive mentality to go along with their physical ability they'd be world class. Also, much as I love Billy and he's one for the future for sure, Jorginho is our midfield boss without question, instantly made a dramatic difference when he came on. What's with the narrative that Jorginho did much better than Gilmour? He bossed the midfield for 1 minute. Crystal Palace was bossing the game afterwards, and they almost scored. NOTHING changed when Jorginho came on. killer1257 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Just now, Vesper said: Kante needs to be sold ASAP doom ahead at every level in terms of injuries, square peg round hole play, and massive loss of transfer value If we sell Kante and don't sign a monster holder we won't go anywhere. Palace was so poor today, i want to give us tons of credit but it was very easy for us to carve chsnces. Unlike villa or west ham, palace didn't sit deep, they want to go up and press. Plus we got a very early goal which help. But defensively, good lord we were all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapkun 668 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 minute ago, communicate said: I have no problem with Christensen. He was tracking runner, but jorgi and Zouma should have covered that. But Zouma recovered very2 well 😁😁 The pace of Zouma to get there in time despite being caught out is unreal. On Christensen, I feel comitting to the runner was not the best choice considering James is out of position but I can understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Just now, Rapkun said: The pace of Zouma to get there in time despite being caught out is unreal. On Christensen, I feel comitting to the runner was not the best choice considering James is out of position but I can understand. It is exactly like you said with Christensen. It was probably not the best decision but you can still understand. I have said it time and time again with Christensen, sell him to Barca. He will be monster there and use the money to buy a gk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan 17,958 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Tomo said: I do find it strange how the general goalposts have been moved. When we drew vs Arsenal despite largely playing well and smashing them for the most part that's irrelevant because only the result counts now it's the other way round performance matters after all. And now we are even getting the numbers of goals conceded in our 'worst' seasons, despite getting the wins (even though some are ugly) which are essential for getting the Champions League football next season. A target considered as 'must' now. Right... Johnnyeye, Tomo, Muzchap and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 How anyone can give Willian greif for his performance today is beyond me. His hold up play was essential. OneMoSalah, Puliiszola, 0007 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,490 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Arsenal lead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Arsenal lead....through Mr Forehead Muzchap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, communicate said: I have no problem with Christensen. He was tracking runner, but jorgi and Zouma should have covered that. But Zouma recovered very2 well 😁😁 I actually game Zouma MotM as I love a hard tackle like he put in but you're right he is partly at fault for that and on the first one he also needs to be stepping out and closing down Zaha as both Dave and AC are in position; further everyone knows Kepa is a complete clown so ir is not like you can trust him to save a shot on target. Today again just emphasised how bad our CB's are. All three (Tomori I am excluding at this moment due to small sample size) are really only adequate for a CB3/4 role. Rudi has the heart but no brain, AC has the positioning and reading but is a wimp and Zouma has the athleticism and strength but cannot read the game nor pass under pressure. So, whilst we can all say play any one of the possible combinations, we still produce pure comedy gold moments as each one is flawed. 6 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Rudiger's the worse of the lot. Stick with the back line as it is I say. Until Tomori is fit. Yeah, Rudi has been dire this season. Only reason I think he has escaped criticism until recently is because he shouts and brings some enthusiasm which pretty much makes him the only one in the back line that does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BXL70 396 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Sell Christensen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,324 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, killer1257 said: Rüdiger is as bad as AC Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk But Zouma-Rudiger is our best combo. Last three games they played together we had clean sheets. Liverpool, Everton and Leicester. Muzchap and killer1257 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 There are plenty of interesting points from this game. Let's start with Gilmour, I really like him. His passing is crisp and our attack always looks better with him playing as holder. He will need to learn to control the tempo of our game. Play a bit like jorgi at times and play as billy at time. Plus he is not the most athletic, he need to learn to play in double pivot with a kante so there somebody who can protect him. Ruben, if he can get most of his physical attribute, offensively he is fantastic. That assist to Tammy show the difference between him and Barkley. Defensively, Ruben need to run more. Bringing Jorginho was a very good move by Lamp. It calmed our team down but jorgi + 2 attacking cm = suicidal. Muzchap and killer1257 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 1 minute ago, communicate said: There are plenty of interesting points from this game. Let's start with Gilmour, I really like him. His passing is crisp and our attack always looks better with him playing as holder. He will need to learn to control the tempo of our game. Play a bit like jorgi at times and play as billy at time. Plus he is not the most athletic, he need to learn to play in double pivot with a kante so there somebody who can protect him. Ruben, if he can get most of his physical attribute, offensively he is fantastic. That assist to Tammy show the difference between him and Barkley. Defensively, Ruben need to run more. Bringing Jorginho was a very good move by Lamp. It calmed our team down but jorgi + 2 attacking cm = suicidal. Gilmour and Kante as DP would be catastrophic. would look like a dooryard with garden gnomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzchap 8,966 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 18 minutes ago, Tomo said: I do find it strange how the general goalposts have been moved. When we drew vs Arsenal despite largely playing well and smashing them for the most part that's irrelevant because only the result counts now it's the other way round performance matters after all. I think because of Covid-19 break it feels like a second season 😂 Certainly my expectations have increased in an illogical way because of the two signings we have made 😂😂😂 I'm definitely at fault for wanting more. Just wish it didnt age me so much watching us play 😂 communicate and Panic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 We need to forget Gilmour for now, we have to get over this Champions League line and if we are to do so then he cannot feature from the start. Laylabelle and Blue Armour 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, King Kante said: I actually game Zouma MotM as I love a hard tackle like he put in but you're right he is partly at fault for that and on the first one he also needs to be stepping out and closing down Zaha as both Dave and AC are in position; further everyone knows Kepa is a complete clown so ir is not like you can trust him to save a shot on target. Today again just emphasised how bad our CB's are. All three (Tomori I am excluding at this moment due to small sample size) are really only adequate for a CB3/4 role. Rudi has the heart but no brain, AC has the positioning and reading but is a wimp and Zouma has the athleticism and strength but cannot read the game nor pass under pressure. So, whilst we can all say play any one of the possible combinations, we still produce pure comedy gold moments as each one is flawed. Yeah, Rudi has been dire this season. Only reason I think he has escaped criticism until recently is because he shouts and brings some enthusiasm which pretty much makes him the only one in the back line that does it. What we need is a mature cb who can lead our defense kinda like what united and pool did with VVD and Maguire. They cost a fortune though 80 m pound Muzchap 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killer1257 3,282 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 But Zouma-Rudiger is our best combo. Last three games they played together we had clean sheets. Liverpool, Everton and Leicester.OK, I did not know that. At least Rüdiger is more physical, but I am still not so sure if it really works. But overall, Zouma earned the hard way his spot into the team Gesendet von meinem VOG-L29 mit Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,490 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 Gilmour was solid. A bit sloppy but also fought well in the holding role. Jorginho should start the next one though. Looked more assured killer1257, DDA, OneMoSalah and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted July 7, 2020 Share Posted July 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Gilmour and Kante as DP would be catastrophic. would look like a dooryard with garden gnomes. Sure I'll take taller dm but We don't have any, maybe Ampadu but haven't watched him played in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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