Sarri But Not Sarri Thread

[manpe 10,861]

When you don't have leaders in your squad, then at least your manager needs to be a leader. But it looks to me more and more that he isn't, he's only a coach. The League Cup final demonstrated that the best - before penalties the players and staff were discussing and planning among themselves, while Sarri was sulking alone until he went to do a few symbolic words and claps for the cameras (I think the players didn't really give a shit what he had to say as everything was set up already). Nobody turned to him for any advice, most looked away, while City players were focused on Pep talk this entire time. 

He will set up his routine drills on training ground, but the players probably don't look to him for solutions and guidance. When they are playing, it feels like they are there on their own, just trying to get by as Sarri rarely does anything decisive to change things. Zappacosta for Azpi while trailing still haunts my mind. Sarri is not a leader nor are any of our players and it shows. With this transfer ban especially, we need somebody with authority to guide us through that time. Without a shepherd, sheep get scattered.

[bigbluewillie 1,859]

This is the first time i've popped my head up anywhere, since that fucking debacle yesterday.

I for the first time ever had changed my mind to giving Sarri time.

But, after a short while of watching what should I call it! 'cos it wasn't a game or a match, i said to myself watching alone ( yeah Willie no mates lol) that if we didn't go in at HT at least 2-0 up then we would get fucked.

I have now changed my mind again for the final time, Sarri is as I first thought an imbecile he needs to go and go now, the team he selected the fucking tactics if that's what he calls them where fucking useless, that defeat yesterday hurt me so bad even more than the Shitty and Boredmouth results because it meant that we could keep up in the race for fourth, I was actually gutted watching them prima donnas fuck around as clueless as the manager, the Blue souse cunts were there for the taking and he Sarri fucked it up..........so my opinion is now that SARRI HAS TO GO NOW.

My original opinion on where we would finish at the end of season would be 6th, nothing has happened to change that opinion, as for the europa cup, to win it we probably need to turn over Napoli, no fucking chance.

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

[Tomo 21,733]

I am actually a bit torn regarding Sarri at the minute, i actually like what he's trying to do system wise and especially like how comfortable we are in possession and the ease we play out of danger under pressure (which were big weaknesses even in our title winning sides) but at the same time the mentality this season is awful, the first blow in a game especially away from home and we collapse, Bournemouth and Everton i thought we were excellent in every sense bar finishing in the first half but we concede early in the second and lose the plot, even at City the opening few minutes we forced a couple of mistakes and looked like we were going to give it a good shot but we concede then another 3 follow in the next 20. 

What is crucial beyond any Sarri in or out argument is we carry on with the good stuff he's implemented and build from that, none of this back to reactive pragmatism because that's part of what created this problem in the first place.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

3 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I am actually a bit torn regarding Sarri at the minute, i actually like what he's trying to do system wise and especially like how comfortable we are in possession and the ease we play out of danger under pressure (which were big weaknesses even in our title winning sides) but at the same time the mentality this season is awful, the first blow in a game especially away from home and we collapse, Bournemouth and Everton i thought we were excellent in every sense bar finishing in the first half but we concede early in the second and lose the plot, even at City the opening few minutes we forced a couple of mistakes and looked like we were going to give it a good shot but we concede then another 3 follow in the next 20. 

What is crucial beyond any Sarri in or out argument is we carry on with the good stuff he's implemented and build from that, none of this back to reactive pragmatism because that's part of what created this problem in the first place.

That one detail is the only thing we're better at. But I think its more just down to removing Courtois and Cahill who were pretty poor in possesion, not so much Sarri being some kind of genius. Playing Jorginho also costs us because he is simply not good enough physically for this level. 

Bloody hell Conte spent half a season bashing the board, didn't even care about training sessions or how the team played and we might have finished better last year than we will now.

So in the end if he does get the sack, he's definitely earned it. But I definitely agree the worst thing we could do is go back and hire a defensive minded manager again. 

[Nicco 927]

Steve Holland? We're fucked.

[milka 3,346]

Stop SarriBall .

 

Chelsea are made to play counters and to be managed by defensive managers. Bring back  Jose Mourinho  and  destroyed Liverpool hopes for title AGAIN 

L'pool - we are coming for you AGAIN .

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

27 minutes ago, Nicco said:

Steve Holland? We're fucked.

Why?

[Fulham Broadway 16,837]

My worry is do the same old and get a new face in, then what ? Yes the players will sort themselves out a bit -for a while - then revert. The other thing is most of them would still be here then for 2019-20. 

No way England will let Holland go at the moment. He's making Southgate look good.

[Laylabelle 9,351]

26 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

My worry is do the same old and get a new face in, then what ? Yes the players will sort themselves out a bit -for a while - then revert. The other thing is most of them would still be here then for 2019-20. 

No way England will let Holland go at the moment. He's making Southgate look good.

Circle of Chelsea.... Round and round we go on this stupid merry go round. Weeeeeeeeeee

[Tomo 21,733]

1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

My worry is do the same old and get a new face in, then what ? Yes the players will sort themselves out a bit -for a while - then revert. The other thing is most of them would still be here then for 2019-20. 

No way England will let Holland go at the moment. He's making Southgate look good.

If he's being offered the job here they won't have a choice, even the FA aren't as heartless to deny him the opportunity of a lifetime, furthermore can't you combine being a club manager with being an assistant in the National set up? McLaren did.

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

10 hours ago, Jason said:

Here's another "great" squad management from Sarri. Player not at 100% but decided to start him anyway rather than start the one high on confidence after scoring a hat-trick in midweek.  

 

If Giroud started people would have been calling for his head lmfao. There is no comparison unfortunately for Oli who is a reasonably solid player but if he led the line every week people would be calling for Sarri to be sacked....

Also theres about 8 weeks to go of the season, why bring Steve Holland in now? Its blatently obvious the players are as big an issue as the manager. Either not commited or not good enough. Same happened under Jose and Conte. Yet when it happened the players were responsible (after a while past Joses public comments and Contes sulk) a lot more than they are now it would appear. Its hilarious we are going to have this same cycle again if Sarri was to be sacked and replaced. Some of these players are too comfortable. 

[Jase 43,479]

15 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

If Giroud started people would have been calling for his head lmfao. There is no comparison unfortunately for Oli who is a reasonably solid player but if he led the line every week people would be calling for Sarri to be sacked....

Who's asking for Sarri to pick Giroud every week? Higuain wasn't 100% fit. So why start him in a game that we needed to win? 

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

Just now, Jason said:

Who's asking for Sarri to pick Giroud every week? Higuain wasn't 100% fit. So why start him in a game that we needed to win? 

Because regardless you pick your best players to win games. Like when we played Costa when he wasnt fully fit under Jose and Conte. For instance as well, if Eden or Kante were only 60 or 70% fit would you think Sarri would bench them? Not a chance. Playing Giroud from the beginning, as much as I like Giroud, what he offers and his attiude when he plays, would have been a mistake.

[Jase 43,479]

17 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Also theres about 8 weeks to go of the season, why bring Steve Holland in now? Its blatently obvious the players are as big an issue as the manager. Either not commited or not good enough. Same happened under Jose and Conte. Yet when it happened the players were responsible (after a while past Joses public comments and Contes sulk) a lot more than they are now it would appear. Its hilarious we are going to have this same cycle again if Sarri was to be sacked and replaced. Some of these players are too comfortable. 

The players are a problem and so is Sarri, who seems to make things worse every time. 

Call it shit luck or lack of due diligence from the board but we have had managers who make things worse every time, one way or another. Mourinho was hell-bent on creating drama, controversy, a toxic atmosphere around. Conte, who was actually doing alright up till January last season, but decided to sulk and stink up the whole place with his endless moaning. Sarri just looks like a clueless manager, one who is out his depth - can't understand what's wrong the team, blames players after defeats, admitted he can't motivate the players, uses one-dimensional tactics, makes like-for-like subs etc. 

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

I'd actually be genuinely shocked if we sacked him now, with 8 games left.  europa to play for.

 

Really believe he will go in the summer, though.  I think he is out of his depth

[Jase 43,479]

3 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Because regardless you pick your best players to win games. Like when we played Costa when he wasnt fully fit under Jose and Conte. For instance as well, if Eden or Kante were only 60 or 70% fit would you think Sarri would bench them? Not a chance. Playing Giroud from the beginning, as much as I like Giroud, what he offers and his attiude when he plays, would have been a mistake.

Picking your best player is one thing but picking an unfit player is another. And what did Higuain even do on Sunday really? Think he had like 1-2 shots and that was it.

What you said would have been on point had Sarri not benched Hazard early on in the season when he was just returning from the World Cup and an extended summer break.