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3 hours ago, Styles said:

Kante, Fabregas, Matic and Chalobah.

Weird because we definitely need one more but I don't want to see Chalobah drop down the pecking order.

I think he means in the formation, he only has 4 places for midfield and two of those are for wing backs.

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5 hours ago, pHaRaOn said:

It was under Mourinho. Chelsea had never won 10 in a row under Ancelotti.

not true. 

in 2009 chelsea won 11 but it was stretched over two seasons from April till Sept. Carlo came on in the summer. so its a technicality 

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13 hours ago, Leif said:

None of our managers since around 2008 or so have been astute at rotating players. We're already seeing our players tiring, and too many of our coaches have said 'We don't need the full quota of players, 20 is enough', as an example. It's a naive approach to believe 11 players wins a league. It takes a lot more than just those players. Unfortunately that's the only thing giving me doubt about winning the title this season. 

Disagree - we are only in 2 competitions this season - League and FA Cup

if our players cannot handle that - then they need to be ashamed of their physical condition 

Rotation is shit - end of story

Leicester hardly changed their team at all last season - look what happened 

Pep is constantly fiddling as is Poch - look where they are

I normally defend players - but to suggest they cannot manage 45ish games a season takes the piss IMHO 

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3 hours ago, Muzchap said:

Disagree - we are only in 2 competitions this season - League and FA Cup

if our players cannot handle that - then they need to be ashamed of their physical condition 

Rotation is shit - end of story

Leicester hardly changed their team at all last season - look what happened 

Pep is constantly fiddling as is Poch - look where they are

I normally defend players - but to suggest they cannot manage 45ish games a season takes the piss IMHO 

Rotation isn't shit, it is good when we are involved in multiple competitions. But out current situation where our only focus is PL, no way should the players be complaining. They get more than ample rest time to remain physically fit.

 

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4 hours ago, Muzchap said:

Disagree - we are only in 2 competitions this season - League and FA Cup

if our players cannot handle that - then they need to be ashamed of their physical condition 

Rotation is shit - end of story

Leicester hardly changed their team at all last season - look what happened 

Pep is constantly fiddling as is Poch - look where they are

I normally defend players - but to suggest they cannot manage 45ish games a season takes the piss IMHO 

I don't think fiddling is a good idea. Nor rotating for rotation's sake, which I didn't imply. I said specifically, Hazard, Costa, and Luiz, are all already at about 80% energy/health wise, whereas they should be at 95%. I understand that Hazard & Luiz have fallen victim to horror tackles and whatnot, but that doesn't change the fact that while they get their rest, capable rotation-options need to be in our cards - which they currently are not. Neymar gets rests, Ronaldo gets rests, Dybala and Higuain get rests, why on earth would we not rest our players? 

There's more to fatigue than just physical, also. I stand by the opinion that Costa gets bored in games vs. small teams no matter the significance of the bout, so again, should be considered for rotation, which can only benefit a team when a capable back-up is around. Bayern rest Ribery, Robben, and Muller consistently, bringing them out for the big games, while nurturing their future replacements in the smaller ones. 

Then, you have to consider from another angle; how many times have we seen players be picked time and time again, to the point of taking their position for granted, and then no longer giving their all? Too often. It's no coincidence Cahill improves the moment Zouma is better. Competition for places is healthy, but there's no competition if you say 'These are my best players; they will play every game unless they break a leg.'

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1 hour ago, Leif said:

I don't think fiddling is a good idea. Nor rotating for rotation's sake, which I didn't imply. I said specifically, Hazard, Costa, and Luiz, are all already at about 80% energy/health wise, whereas they should be at 95%. I understand that Hazard & Luiz have fallen victim to horror tackles and whatnot, but that doesn't change the fact that while they get their rest, capable rotation-options need to be in our cards - which they currently are not. Neymar gets rests, Ronaldo gets rests, Dybala and Higuain get rests, why on earth would we not rest our players? 

There's more to fatigue than just physical, also. I stand by the opinion that Costa gets bored in games vs. small teams no matter the significance of the bout, so again, should be considered for rotation, which can only benefit a team when a capable back-up is around. Bayern rest Ribery, Robben, and Muller consistently, bringing them out for the big games, while nurturing their future replacements in the smaller ones. 

Then, you have to consider from another angle; how many times have we seen players be picked time and time again, to the point of taking their position for granted, and then no longer giving their all? Too often. It's no coincidence Cahill improves the moment Zouma is better. Competition for places is healthy, but there's no competition if you say 'These are my best players; they will play every game unless they break a leg.'

Conte isn't Ancelotti, we have already seen players been dropped because of poor form and if we god for bid drop points in all 3 games coming i would imagine we would see changes at White Hart lane.  Also we have a weeks rest after Palace and over a week between spurs at WHLand Hull (i can't imagine Hazard, Luiz and Costa playing vs Petobrough/Notts unless we are in trouble with 15 minutes left) so there is still enough time for R and R even in this period.  

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One final thought on our recent series of narrow gritty wins. One of the most significant statistics in modern football is that about 97% of goals are scored within 15secs of winning the ball. I am pretty sure Conte knows this. We have never been a side patiently rolling around the ball trying to carve out the opponent's defense with intricate passing. More of a direct, counter attacking side. Conte has epitomised these strengths. Whe are pressing the opponent, rushing forward when winning the ball. That is how we scored the majority of our goals. Off this is gonna be harder vs stubborn organised sides but they will always make mistakes for us to pounce on. As long as we are stable at the back and shuffle things up at the front we will get our points. The thing is I trust conte more than any other manager we ve had so far doing this because other than mourinho or pep he is both a pragmatist and visionary.

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The Benchers in the bench required to wash their face in cold water.They have to make the difference when they go to the field regardless of the number of minutes they will play.Create more competition will bring benefits to this group
 

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10 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

I have read this countless times and still have no idea what it means or relates to. Have you been hitting the christmas booze a bit early son?

The coldness of outside froze my brain.Created this word Benchers for the players who are sitting in the bench

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3 hours ago, Iggy Doonican said:

I have read this countless times and still have no idea what it means or relates to. Have you been hitting the Christmas booze a bit early son?

Thought he was on about how we used to go on the benches at half time.....:D

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