The Conte Thread

[kiwi1691 255]

I am tired of this myth the board didn't support Jose, here is a good post from a Chelsea supporter on the RedCafe forum. 

 

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 There isn't much more you can do when Everton straight up decline £45m for Stones, when a €60m bid is accepted for Koke and he refuses to even talk with the club and when you offer more money then United for Martial and Monaco still reject your offer and he goes to United. What else could we do with those targets? None of them wanted to play for us under Mourinho, simple as that. Only Griezmann was maybe attainable but we didn't think £43m was good value for him. Something I believe we got totally wrong. Instead we bought Pedro to do a similar job for half the money. 

Also, why did we need to spend nearly £200m on players for Mourinho to have another title winning season and not implode? Isn't that the sign of a bad manager if they have to constantly spend a small fortune every season to be competitive? Plus the fact that spending absurd amounts every year isn't a suitable long term solution. 

Another point, the problems we had when Mourinho first took charge (Blunt attack, lack of control in midfield and a slow aging defence) we still had two years into his reign despite him spending a load f money every transfer window. That's because he bought short term quick fixes rather then long term solutions. 

Funnily enough, a lot of our problems could've been solved if Mourinho had just given the youth players a chance like he said he was going to. Christensen has shown himself to be as talented as Stones ever was and equally good on the ball this season in CB, Loftus-Cheek would've given the midfield much more solidity playing a box to box role in a midfield 3 and Traore would 've offered more threat going forwards then either Remy or Falcao coming from the right or playing as a striker. He showed them no faith though and wanted 5/6 top class players added to the team, when he could've just given them the chance they deserved and only bot 1/2 top players.

 

[Special Juan 27,429]

22 minutes ago, kiwi1691 said:

I am tired of this myth the board didn't support Jose, here is a good post from a Chelsea supporter on the RedCafe forum. 

 

 

I'm sorry but lets get this into perspective and start with John Stones. We approached Everton with an offer of 20M for Stones, talk about pissing a team off before you even start, that right there was the start of what was joke from us and how not to sign a player. If you go to a garage for a ten grand car do you walk into the showroom and offer five grand? No chance, especially not for a top model all singing all dancing car, you will be told to fuck off, and that's what happened to us.

We won the title last season, and despite what certain people say you MUST strengthen despite previous victories, we didn't, we saw what happened. You don't sit on your hands and hope you go again, and that includes big purchases because on the horizon and future outlook was the CL, the biggest daddy of them all. We needed better than Rahman, Djiliboji and Pedro, end of. This wasn't about JM being good or bad it was purely about what the club needed and the team was crying out for....new fresh blood.

Mourinho was not the complete catalyst to the downfall, but he didn't help himself. He continued to play the same way despite defeats, play the same players no matter what level of performance was given and all of a sudden cracks started to appear because there was no way past the ego of Mourinho, an the short coming from the board started to really show.

People are right when they say the people behind the scenes aren't football people, had they been football people we wouldn't of been trying to hitch hike Stones for 20M, that was pure fucking idiotic from us, and that right there did one thing, it pissed Everton off and the deal was as good as dead. We then looked like little lost school boys with another bid, then another one and all of a sudden Chelsea became a laughing stock again.

I have said it before and will repeat it again, it wasn't just JM it was everyone from top to bottom, the club is/was a mess and this new appointment of Conte should herald a new start. I'm not sure it will, I have zero faith in the men/woman in the boardroom which is why I said a full overhaul is needed, not just a new coach.

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24 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

I'm sorry but lets get this into perspective and start with John Stones. We approached Everton with an offer of 20M for Stones, talk about pissing a team off before you even start, that right there was the start of what was joke from us and how not to sign a player. If you go to a garage for a ten grand car do you walk into the showroom and offer five grand? No chance, especially not for a top model all singing all dancing car, you will be told to fuck off, and that's what happened to us.

We won the title last season, and despite what certain people say you MUST strengthen despite previous victories, we didn't, we saw what happened. You don't sit on your hands and hope you go again, and that includes big purchases because on the horizon and future outlook was the CL, the biggest daddy of them all. We needed better than Rahman, Djiliboji and Pedro, end of. This wasn't about JM being good or bad it was purely about what the club needed and the team was crying out for....new fresh blood.

Mourinho was not the complete catalyst to the downfall, but he didn't help himself. He continued to play the same way despite defeats, play the same players no matter what level of performance was given and all of a sudden cracks started to appear because there was no way past the ego of Mourinho, an the short coming from the board started to really show.

People are right when they say the people behind the scenes aren't football people, had they been football people we wouldn't of been trying to hitch hike Stones for 20M, that was pure fucking idiotic from us, and that right there did one thing, it pissed Everton off and the deal was as good as dead. We then looked like little lost school boys with another bid, then another one and all of a sudden Chelsea became a laughing stock again.

I have said it before and will repeat it again, it wasn't just JM it was everyone from top to bottom, the club is/was a mess and this new appointment of Conte should herald a new start. I'm not sure it will, I have zero faith in the men/woman in the boardroom which is why I said a full overhaul is needed, not just a new coach.

AMEN brother!!! 

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Somebody mentioned pudding? Yummy 

[Fulham Broadway 16,849]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

So a bad summer led us to relegation zone? 

Get the heck out of here. 

You don't need a lot of money to do good as shown by Leicester and tottenham. 

If you can't get your target like pogba and stone then don't buy or settle for less. 

Tell the  board and Buckenalo not to settle for less then.  Players let the team down by not performing /being unfit, Mourinho wasnt allowed the players he wanted, he was stubborn and continued with kamikaze selections and tactics.

Tottenham and Leicester players have developed, its called evolution

[Weckerz 3,781]

15 hours ago, the wes said:

 

Is that the Hawthorns in the background? (in the video, not the thumbnail)

/facepalm

[LDN Blue 7,903]

2 hours ago, Special Juan said:

People are right when they say the people behind the scenes aren't football people, had they been football people we wouldn't of been trying to hitch hike Stones for 20M, that was pure fucking idiotic from us, and that right there did one thing, it pissed Everton off and the deal was as good as dead. We then looked like little lost school boys with another bid, then another one and all of a sudden Chelsea became a laughing stock again.

Lets not forget the embarrassing deadline day approach for Marquinhos   

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It is understood the Blues have offered two separate sums between the £25.7m and £40.4m-mark for the Brazil international.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/9975281/chelsea-fail-with-two-bids-for-paris-saint-german-star-marquinhos

 

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

3 hours ago, Special Juan said:

I'm sorry but lets get this into perspective and start with John Stones. We approached Everton with an offer of 20M for Stones, talk about pissing a team off before you even start, that right there was the start of what was joke from us and how not to sign a player. If you go to a garage for a ten grand car do you walk into the showroom and offer five grand? No chance, especially not for a top model all singing all dancing car, you will be told to fuck off, and that's what happened to us.

We won the title last season, and despite what certain people say you MUST strengthen despite previous victories, we didn't, we saw what happened. You don't sit on your hands and hope you go again, and that includes big purchases because on the horizon and future outlook was the CL, the biggest daddy of them all. We needed better than Rahman, Djiliboji and Pedro, end of. This wasn't about JM being good or bad it was purely about what the club needed and the team was crying out for....new fresh blood.

Mourinho was not the complete catalyst to the downfall, but he didn't help himself. He continued to play the same way despite defeats, play the same players no matter what level of performance was given and all of a sudden cracks started to appear because there was no way past the ego of Mourinho, an the short coming from the board started to really show.

People are right when they say the people behind the scenes aren't football people, had they been football people we wouldn't of been trying to hitch hike Stones for 20M, that was pure fucking idiotic from us, and that right there did one thing, it pissed Everton off and the deal was as good as dead. We then looked like little lost school boys with another bid, then another one and all of a sudden Chelsea became a laughing stock again.

I have said it before and will repeat it again, it wasn't just JM it was everyone from top to bottom, the club is/was a mess and this new appointment of Conte should herald a new start. I'm not sure it will, I have zero faith in the men/woman in the boardroom which is why I said a full overhaul is needed, not just a new coach.

The board have got many things wrong this season but not paying over odds for Stones was not one of them.

He is not worth £40m and I doubt he ever will be. The only thing JM did wrong this season is that he stuck by his players for too long - Traore should have been playing back in November, for example.

[Special Juan 27,429]

3 minutes ago, CurlyHairLikeLuiz said:

The board have got many things wrong this season but not paying over odds for Stones was not one of them.

He is not worth £40m and I doubt he ever will be.

They soon eventually got near to that figure though didn't they?

[Pizy 18,368]

Wish we can fast forward the rest of the season...

[CurlyHairLikeLuiz 1,625]

1 minute ago, Special Juan said:

They soon eventually got to that figure though didn't they?

I don't think they went that high, even if the Mail said otherwise

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really glad it's been sorted out so early! didn't want the rumours to drag on endlessly.

he'll be focussing on the Euro 2016 campaign, but should have time to think about what he wants to implement come the start of his tenure at the Bridge

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[Henrique 9,133]

6 hours ago, CHOULO19 said:

Everyone jumping on the 'head coach' thing as if they actually know what the difference is, is as funny as those who just KNOW for sure that Emenalo is responsible for all transfers despite ZERO evidence for it 

The proof of whether or not he will be given considerable influence on transfers will be in pudding. We'll just have to wait and see.

Everyone know the difference between manager and head coach, and do you really believe he was announced as "head coach" instead of "manager" doesn't mean anything? 

[LDN Blue 7,903]

Lmao, things are never plain simple at Chelsea..

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Call for suspended jail sentence in match-fixing case

An Italian prosecutor wants incoming Chelsea boss Antonio Conte to get a six-month suspended prison sentence and fine over his alleged role in a match-fixing case, according to his lawyer.

Source: BBC

 

[RoyalBlues 4,050]

2 minutes ago, LDN Blue said:

Lmao, things are never plain simple at Chelsea..

 

Don't worry, Guus still around, no? 

[LDN Blue 7,903]

7 hours ago, CHOULO19 said:

Everyone jumping on the 'head coach' thing as if they actually know what the difference is

Even so, you have to admit it peculiar. In the whole statement they refer to him as "ex Juve manager" and "Italy's current manager". Yet their wording of his role at Chelsea then becomes First Team Coach? Why not just continue the same trend? Lol 

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22 minutes ago, Henrique said:

Everyone know the difference between manager and head coach, and do you really believe he was announced as "head coach" instead of "manager" doesn't mean anything? 

Can i ask, what is different between these two words? D: