Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 For me it's pretty simple. Whatever Mourinho told the team in the 2nd half clearly didn't work. We came out looking far worse and tried to protect the lead, potentially settling for either a draw or a loss. I just read a stat that this match was the lowest amount of shots we've had in a game since 2003/2004. We had 3 shots in the game, a big fat zero in the 2nd half. That's shots, not even shots on target. How is that even possible?This is not solely because of the fatigue or because Costa and Fabregas didn't play. We had our best spell of the match in the last minutes of the first half for god's sake!Then we come out playing like THAT from minute 1 of the 2nd half? We didn't even try to win for even till say minute 60? I'm not buying the fatigue excuse, sorry. Mourinho again used the same tactic he uses in big games (which is odd since chasing the ball saps more energy) and we had to settle for the point. Is that a tactical performance to be praised or noted? No it is not.It's not once but at least twice you said things like "we tried to protect the lead from 1st minute in the 2nd half" which makes me wonder did you actually watch the match. You do know they equalized before the half time whistle yeh? commilin, Muzchap, Barbara and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! didierforever 7,349 Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted February 1, 2015 There is a middle ground. Wenger's taken 4/6 points against City this season, 2 more than us, so I don't think he should be used as a bad example here.wenger has 1 win in his last 16 matches against top 4 sides. Wenger lost to united last season when chelsea, city, pool all did doubles on them. Wenger got ownrd by soton during his gung ho approach. Wenger got butt fucked by jose 6-0 last year. Wenger has not won against jose in 12 meetings. But I guess one win after years and years and years of crap nakes him the best manager ecer!!! Chelsea Legend 11, darrus, commilin and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! kellzfresh 7,229 Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted February 1, 2015 We are top scorers in the league. Any comments about Mourinho not being an attacking coach this season is laughable imo HD3D, commilin, Chelsea Legend 11 and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! The Chels 2,502 Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted February 1, 2015 I think there is a lot to talk about with respect to Jose's set-up and philosophy for the big games but the single biggest issue is surely our inability to maintain 1-0 leads. If we were able to do that then towards the end of last season we would have beat Sunderland and probably won the PL, and we would have beat Atletico to reach the CL final. This year we'd have 9 points more in the league and would still be in the FA Cup. I know it is impossible to always maintain a 1-0 lead but such a lead should be a big advantage - it allows us to defend with numbers and play on the counter attack against a side that becomes more desperate to score and leaves more spaces for us to exploit. We often score first in the most important games but don't seem able to take advantage and often end up conceding without reply. edetarod, darrus, Laugh1ngMan and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg 1,824 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I think there is a lot to talk about with respect to Jose's set-up and philosophy for the big games but the single biggest issue is surely our inability to maintain 1-0 leads. If we were able to do that then towards the end of last season we would have beat Sunderland and probably won the PL, and we would have beat Atletico to reach the CL final. This year we'd also have 9 points more in the league. I know it is impossible to always maintain a 1-0 lead but such a lead should be a big advantage - it allows us to defend with numbers and play on the counter attack against a side that becomes more desperate to score and leaves more spaces for us to exploit. We often score first in the most important games but don't seem able to take advantage and often end up conceding without reply.The 04/05 mentality cannot be applied with this team, simply because the defensive system changed, the center backs are older and the midfieldiers young, which is the exact contrary of what a great defense needs, young powerful center backs with two experienced defensive midfielders, the Terry-Carvalho partnership + Maka & Essien ( later on Ballack ) is more solid that Matic - Terry - Cahill.The overall system is an attacking system, based on Eden and Fabregas/Oscar creativity to break teams, and Iva taking the risk to strech the opposition, the 04/05 team wasnt that, it was more direct, ruthless, and exactly what needed for us at that time, this time around we cannot win 1-0 anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Chels 2,502 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 The 04/05 mentality cannot be applied with this team, simply because the defensive system changed, the center backs are older and the midfieldiers young, which is the exact contrary of what a great defense needs, young powerful center backs with two experienced defensive midfielders, the Terry-Carvalho partnership + Maka & Essien ( later on Ballack ) is more solid that Matic - Terry - Cahill.The overall system is an attacking system, based on Eden and Fabregas/Oscar creativity to break teams, and Iva taking the risk to strech the opposition, the 04/05 team wasnt that, it was more direct, ruthless, and exactly what needed for us at that time, this time around we cannot win 1-0 anymore.The 04/05 side was exceptional defensively but you don't need to be that good to maintain a lead. If we simply get plenty of numbers behind the ball, kill the spaces and play on the counter-attack when we go ahead against the big teams then the chances of us winning would obviously increase. I don't know why but we definitely have difficulties doing this - we seem to often continue playing as though it is 0-0 and look defensively open or we don't look to play on the counter attack and kill the game, instead sitting too deep.This season we've taken the lead against City (x2), United and Tottenham and ended up with only 3 points. That should not happen to a big team and I don't agree with your argument that we can't do it because we have creative players like Cesc/Hazard. Apart from them the rest of the team is definitely composed of more defensive and workmanlike players for whom defending a 1-0 lead should be easier than they've made out this season. Remember the second half performance against Tottenham at home - we had a clear defensive shape and played well on the counter attack. We don't see that enough though. Heisenberg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! supporter 3,088 Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted February 1, 2015 I think it's unfair for the qualification of defensive to Jose. He holds the record for goals in a year in several different leagues (121 goals only in the Spanish league, for example), Jose has won two Champions League finals 3-0 and 2-0 respectively. A UEFA 3-0. Jose has our team in a position with to much possibilites to be the best team in goals scored at the end of the season.Yesterday was a tough day without Cesc, but Diego Costa, with very tired after the match against Liverpool (with extension included) team and a team without Salah, Schurrle or Mikel, with very poor bench.We we could have won if Silva had not scored before halftime. But we made an intelligent game. Having +5 points in the Premier League is very difficult, and we have that distance on January 31, a privilege.Who if I had to risk was the Manchester City. They are out of the FA Cup, League Cup, against Barcelona in the Champions League and Premier League at a distance of - 5 points concerning us. They had to risk, not us.Yesterday we played smart football, with a very compact approach, which has also led to the final confirmation Kurt Zouma (100 % Jose Mourinho`s player)This type of games are defined by small details, and a small detail could have left us + 2 points behind Manchester City. Today we are +5 and we just have to visit the field Arsenal of the important teams.Now we have only two games before the showdown against PSG in the Champions League. We must regain our physical form these days (even I would not force Fabregas on Saturday) and I'm sure Diego Costa will be full of ambition for that day.Jose is no defense, it's smart. Risk is very nice, ask Arsene Wenger. He risks a lot and he tries to play nice, but he NEVER win anything.Jose plays with humility, assuming that the other team can punish us in big games and perfectly handles situations of tension.I'm sure in the tie against PSG, Jose goes to show that he is the smartest coach in the world (remember that match lasts 180 minutes). Jose is a pragmatic and intelligent coach. He ended with the hegemony of the Guardiola`s Team because of it.Regards to ALL. Barbara, CeleryFC, BlueLion. and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namika 922 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Need to rediscover how to counter-attack imo. Against United, Liverpool away in the Capital One Cup and City home and away, we sat back (nothing wrong with that for me) but we couldn't counter them. Hopefully Cuadrado can add a spark with Willian playing 10. supporter, bababoom, Laugh1ngMan and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! petre.ispirescu 4,928 Posted February 1, 2015 Popular Post! Share Posted February 1, 2015 He did the right thing last night. Rather win the league like that, than lose it the way Liverpool did. Had Brenton played the same way Jose played against City, the scousers would have been champions now ( ).Football is not about playing all out attack and win titles in style. You don't have to play 80% posession to control a game, you can also do it by sitting deep and cancelling the opponent. Ok, City was the better team in the 2nd half, but you have to admit they looked clueless as fuck. And that was because Chelsea's brilliant display at the back. Jose is made for these big games, it is in his DNA to succeed when in the spotlights. Defend or attack, he always finds a way to win these type of games. His record speaks volumes. 11Drogba, The Skipper, Barbara and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Need to rediscover how to counter-attack imo. Against United, Liverpool away in the Capital One Cup and City home and away, we sat back (nothing wrong with that for me) but we couldn't counter them. Hopefully Cuadrado can add a spark with Willian playing 10.Yes. For me the match in Old Trafford completely change the level of our performance. That day Van Gaal put Juan Mata to make an individual to Fabregas marking, and that has nullified the brilliant start of Fabregas. Since then Fabregas only appears in small phases of the parties. We have to get that back, that Fabregas play with more freedom, or make other players monopolize rivals pressure exerted on Fabregas. Maybe Cuadrado (and Willian like a 10, or Ramires like a midfielder) can help us to that. Courtois Zouma John Terry ©Ivanovic Azpilicueta Fabregas/Ramires Matic Cuadrado Fabregas/Willian Hazard Diego CostaRegards. kellzfresh and killer1257 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 He did the right thing last night. Rather win the league like that, than lose it the way Liverpool did. Had Brenton played the same way Jose played against City, the scousers would have been champions now ( ).Football is not about playing all out attack and win titles in style. You don't have to play 80% posession to control a game, you can also do it by sitting deep and cancelling the opponent. Ok, City was the better team in the 2nd half, but you have to admit they looked clueless as fuck. And that was because Chelsea's brilliant display at the back. Jose is made for these big games, it is in his DNA to succeed when in the spotlights. Defend or attack, he always finds a way to win these type of games. His record speaks volumes. Perfect comment friend.Besides, I did not see at no moment jeopardize the match for us. I do not recall any dangerous play (real danger) of Manchester City. We carry the match where we wanted.They had to win, but we, perhaps, yesterday won the Premier League.Regards. petre.ispirescu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Anybody else wonder if we will sign a second player. I didn't know where to actually post this. We have a short squad and in terms of Attacking midfielders we currently have 4.(5 if you consider Fabregas in terms of rotation) Still Jose said, if 1 player is to leave he will be replaced, if 2 are to leave, then two will be bought. Meaning, we are waiting on the Schurrle deal to happen or we are not signing anyone? darrus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Anybody else wonder if we will sign a second player. I didn't know where to actually post this. We have a short squad and in terms of Attacking midfielders we currently have 4.(5 if you consider Fabregas in terms of rotation) Still Jose said, if 1 player is to leave he will be replaced, if 2 are to leave, then two will be bought. Meaning, we are waiting on the Schurrle deal to happen or we are not signing anyone?I'm not so sure. We don't have too many competitions to worry about, we're out of the FA Cup and there's only one game left in the League Cup. We have Willian, Hazard, Oscar, Cuadrado, Remy(who can play wide if needed) and Ramires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Here's the thing. The issue isn't so much that we parked the bus but that we had absolutely no tactical plan other than to keep inviting unneccessary pressure. Would it be that risky to counter them with 3 players with well calculated and rehearsed play? Not to mention the benefit of holding the ball and retaining posession in midfield instead of hoofing it aimlessly off field just to invite another wave of constant attack.So here's a better idea: let's open the game up even more for City by attacking with our twelve fit outfield players, most of whom played 120 minutes of a semi-final on Tuesday night. What a brilliant tactical idea that would have been.We had a shit hand dealt to us yesterday but we still managed to make a fist of things. Considering the circumstances, and the fact it was a "do not lose" match, we should be content with a point. I don't like the way we sat off either, but the players were clearly jaded and considering how dominant City were in terms of possession and territory, we made them look toothless. How many times did they really test us? Twice? Can't be disappointed with that.Until now I'm satisfied with Mourinho this season. Winning a big trophy this season is an obligation in my opinion. The team is 5 points clear and thats what really matters. The team is also playing good and solid football.We could play shit football like last year for all I care. I just want to win a trophy, which is an obligation, as you quite rightly assert. A trophyless season would be unacceptable given the quality of this squad. kellzfresh and GodZola 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBlueGuy 1,552 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 PL title is a must this season considering we already got most of the toughest away matches out of the way. If we lose it now with just 15 games left and 5 points lead we would have bottled it. xPetrCechx, BlueLion. and kellzfresh 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,573 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 PL title is a must this season considering we already got most of the toughest away matches out of the way. If we lose it now with just 15 games left and 5 points lead we would have bottled it.How much home game - away games we have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Every game a cup final.Got tough away games out the way but still likes of Villa,QPR etc who shouldn't cause a upset but are capable if dont play how we canHome-8-Everton,Burnley,Southampton,Stoke,Man U,Palace,Liverpool,SunderlandAway-7-Villa,Leicester,West Ham,Hull,QPR,Arsenal,West Brom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supporter 3,088 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Every game a cup final.Got tough away games out the way but still likes of Villa,QPR etc who shouldn't cause a upset but are capable if dont play how we canHome-8-Everton,Burnley,Southampton,Stoke,Man U,Palace,Liverpool,SunderlandAway-7-Villa,Leicester,West Ham,Hull,QPR,Arsenal,West BromAll Right. It's time to go looking at how many matches are left until the end of the season.I think we've suffered a lot in games away The Bridge, but in this second part of the season we have a much weaker rivals away from home.Initially, we will not suffer so much away The Bridge (I hope this).Chelsea. Position. 1. Points. 53.Away matches.1. Aston Villa. Position. 16. Points. 22. 2. Leicester. Position. 20. Points. 17. 3. West Ham. Position. 8. Points. 36.4. Hull. Position. 18. Points. 19.5. QPR. Position. 19. Points. 19. 6. Arsenal. Position. 5. Points. 42.7. West Brom. Position. 15. Points. 22.Regards. Blue Colored Sky and The Skipper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonsFinest 692 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 I'm not so sure. We don't have too many competitions to worry about, we're out of the FA Cup and there's only one game left in the League Cup. We have Willian, Hazard, Oscar, Cuadrado, Remy(who can play wide if needed) and Ramires. I was actually thinking about that, that even with CL we don't have the FA to tighten our schedule and coming out of that competition has its pluses. I think we may see some activity, but as Wenger would say( Oh, God): "Only if the right deal comes." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 The only thing we 'suck' at this year is keeping the lead.We were leading twice vs city, once vs united, once vs liverpool (ccup) and once vs spurs. And vs bradford but that wasnt big game.We have not won single of those games, if we cant handle to score and keep that lead, we have to change the tactics in future.Mou said its better to lose fighting, than win or draw with poor game. But he is doing exact opposite. As long we will be winning long term its OK though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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