The Mourinho Thread

[StrategiC 73]

Diffenetly Rooney

[AndersonBLUE 819]

I love how he flamebaits the press and other fans with his comments. I think he just likes to stir things up and keeps his players out of the media.

You don't call out a team who is scoring for fun at the moment 'Lucky' for the sake of it.

[didierforever 7,349]

Mourinho's presser surely is entertaining, one way or another.

who was it? my bet is IVA.

also what did not get the reply to mou's question of "portugues, spanish?"

[HD3D 1,038]

Why do people have this assumption that Mourinho is 100% perfect? I've even seen Man U fans criticise SAF.

And I have also seen Chelsea fans criticizing Mourinho. In fact, this thread itself is full of it. Starting by you.

However, most United fans stood by SAF no matter what. And most Chelsea fans are doing the same.

So why are you pretending we're any different to United fans on that matter?

[Hutcho 8,443]

Perhaps mou just means the tank will be returning.

[Ze Mario 638]

i read article here at TC about chelsea's way with loaning the player, and and some of them sold with higher price. and that article said what chelsea did became evolution of football business. i cant find that article, can somebody tell me the link?

many thanks

[Blue Armour 4,278]

Funny Everton is above United in the table, but what kind of reply is this to the fact that instead of scoring more. We're just shutting up shop.

Our next game after the United game was in 1 week against Stoke.... so leaving on some attacking midfielders for 10 extra minutes to bang in some more goal was wrong? If you take it the 'oh they could have got an injury way' then even the DMs coming on might have? eh?

Forget the United game that's been the trend for the entire season. It's really annoying since our attitude should be to go our their bang in more goals!

We actually went negative and ended up conceding even Garry Neville was saying United were looking likely to concede more but bar that game, why is our side so negative?

We went to Basel and we parked the bus, I mean what? Why would you park the bus against Basel? And even that failed!

City were 3-0 up to Spurs and went on to win 6-0. City were leading with Arsenal yet they didn't back down till the last minute and won 6-3. Isn't that what this whole 'Project' is about? Delivering a high standard of attacking football? Is that not why we've been signing players like Hazard, Willian, Oscar etc.

The thing is we should have a more positive approach. We should always be looking and hunting for more goals. It's always great to see a side playing attractive football and the thing is in games against 'weaker' teams we should do that.

I understand and respect the need in some games to be conservative even Man City when they came to Stamford Bridge respected us and played Javi Garcia in the midfield. I understand there are some games WHERE YOU HAVE TO be a little bit cautious (like in the game at the Ethiad) but the thing is we seem to be building a negative mentality? I mean we won 8-0 against Villa last season which is something that seems pretty unlikely this season. One thing I would like to add though is that Liverpool even approached the game at the Ethiad with quite an attacking mentality (and were quite unfortunate to lose).

What kind of reply? Even without elaborating, its quite clear what I meant.

Despite what the table says right now, United have more match-winners and of course league winners in their team to turn things around, even with Moyes in charge. The fact is despite the 3 goals, Chelsea were not playing that well on the day and United didn't take some of their better chances.

I personally liked the way we used to score 7 and 8 in a match in times gone by, but the manager does have reasons for setting up the way he did.

[NishC300 1,865]

What kind of reply? Even without elaborating, its quite clear what I meant.

Despite what the table says right now, United have more match-winners and of course league winners in their team to turn things around, even with Moyes in charge. The fact is despite the 3 goals, Chelsea were not playing that well on the day and United didn't take some of their better chances.

I personally liked the way we used to score 7 and 8 in a match in times gone by, but the manager does have reasons for setting up the way he did.

I gave other examples in that same post such as the times Man City have always looked to score even more goals despite leading and anyway it was quite apparent in that game that Man U were looking likely to concede more. Forget the United game, this is just a terrible trend that is starting to be created. Instead of scoring MORE GOALS we just go defensive and look to scrape a win.

Well comparing our GD (or anyone else's) with Man City is embarassing, it's lower than Arsenal's and the Liverpool are below yet boast a better GD.... It's just not a good attitude to have. Being negative. Simply shutting up shop and not looking to score.

What happened to the stuff we saw against Hull in the 1st half on the 1st day (or against Villa on the 2nd day for 20 mins or so)?

[Peppen 934]

I gave other examples in that same post such as the times Man City have always looked to score even more goals despite leading and anyway it was quite apparent in that game that Man U were looking likely to concede more. Forget the United game, this is just a terrible trend that is starting to be created. Instead of scoring MORE GOALS we just go defensive and look to scrape a win.

Well comparing our GD (or anyone else's) with Man City is embarassing, it's lower than Arsenal's and the Liverpool are below yet boast a better GD.... It's just not a good attitude to have. Being negative. Simply shutting up shop and not looking to score.

What happened to the stuff we saw against Hull in the 1st half on the 1st day (or against Villa on the 2nd day for 20 mins or so)?

Exactly how is it being a NEGATIVE approach to football scoring 3 GOALS (!) against the reigning champions, then taking pace out of the game, rest players and actually SECURE the 3 points? If we kept pushing, it could actually result in United pulling back into the game... I seem to remember another game against United, we were 3 goals up and it ended in a draw...

I guess if teams were awarded an additional point for scoring more than 3 goals it would make sense, or some sort of economical bonus. Sadly, that is not the case.

Furthermore you find our GD embarrassing (fewest goals conceded, eh, but that is not enough huh) compared to City. Get a grip, mate. They have the best strikers in the BPL, if not the world. They are the finished article. Liverpool, same story. Worldclass strikers while we have.. Torres.

We are winning games, accumulating points and fighting for the title. Those are far more important than winning 4 or 5-0 against United instead of 3-1.

[bushman 2,043]

No matter what anyone says about Jose, you either love him or you hate him but this man has got guts, know how & is the best tactician in the UK by far.

As I look at the January transfer market, I have no alternative but to admire Jose´s dealings here.

Sold KDB, Mata for a huge profit, released funds by letting Essien to go, but invested the money & bought much needed DM Matic, pipped the liverpoops for Salah, spent around 12m for much sought for Zouma, signed Traore young & talented player.

As far as I am concerned, Chelsea is a clear winner of January dealings, by far.

[Liquidator 5,176]

Other then that has the club shown any sinister plan into taking the club backwards?

No all I see is plan to keep the club moving forward.

You make it sound like they have evil intentions which is something I don't see anywhere.

No the club hasn't. Although it seems unlikely, how did we not know at the time that Abramovich wanted to move ground in the interest of making profit on London real estate? It could potentially have been a similar situation to what Malaga found themselves in.

Yes they probably do have an honest plan and wanted to move stadium only in the interest of the club but if so, why could they not have been more transparent with the whole thing? If the CPO had known more about the plans then the board probably would have got their 75% of votes needed to hand the rights to Stamford Bridge over to the club. However, they told us absolutely nothing. Instead, they got Villas-Boas to speak about how great a new stadium would be in a press conference, got John Terry to come out of nowhere to comment on how he wanted to be playing in a bigger stadium, appointed Dennis Wise as head of the CPO to try and gain more votes in their favour and purchased hundreds of shares themselves. It all seemed totally unnecessary, especially considering that the vast majority of Chelsea fans accept we need a bigger stadium to compete with the bigger clubs, when they could have just told us more about stadium design, where we would be moving to etc.

What you also have to bear in mind is that as a club we are more attached to our stadium than many other clubs, given that we were formed to use Stamford Bridge. At the time we were being linked with sites like Wormwood Scrubs and even Harrow. These places don't reflect what Chelsea is, they are not Chelsea 'strongholds' in terms of support. Moving far from our roots is a very sensitive issue for many fans, (although the general consensus seems that as long as we don't go too far from our current site, moving would be fine) so to ask us to give up our stadium that has been ours since 1905 to move to an unknown site on an unknown timescale with an unknown stadium design was a bit too much to ask. If the club had told us more it would most likely have been different.

[Laylabelle 9,351]

Besides Liverpool have 2 bloody decent strikers,Man City are just a bit mental.We dont have that at the moment.Guess its easier to defend a lead rather then loose it then try and play catch up sorta thing

[Toli 977]

No matter what anyone says about Jose, you either love him or you hate him but this man has got guts, know how & is the best tactician in the UK by far.

As I look at the January transfer market, I have no alternative but to admire Jose´s dealings here.

Sold KDB, Mata for a huge profit, released funds by letting Essien to go, but invested the money & bought much needed DM Matic, pipped the liverpoops for Salah, spent around 12m for much sought for Zouma, signed Traore young & talented player.

As far as I am concerned, Chelsea is a clear winner of January dealings, by far.

If we are the winner, we'll see by the end of the season and in the future. its also possible that salah and matic both will flop and Mata will shine at United etc. we have to wait and see before we can make a proper statement about our transfer dealings.

and best tactician in the UK? I dont know. there arent many good coaches at the EPL at the moment. Rodgers and Pellegrini are probably the only ones, who can compete with Mou. Especially the latter. I would even say that Pellegrini is a better tactician for the modern football and how he sets up the offensive play of his team. Mou is more old-school I think. Sometimes he is too minded on the balance and defense at his team (for eg against West Ham)

[bushman 2,043]

If we are the winner, we'll see by the end of the season and in the future. its also possible that salah and matic both will flop and Mata will shine at United etc. we have to wait and see before we can make a proper statement about our transfer dealings.

and best tactician in the UK? I dont know. there arent many good coaches at the EPL at the moment. Rodgers and Pellegrini are probably the only ones, who can compete with Mou. Especially the latter. I would even say that Pellegrini is a better tactician for the modern football and how he sets up the offensive play of his team. Mou is more old-school I think. Sometimes he is too minded on the balance and defense at his team (for eg against West Ham)

May I suggest for you to believe a bit more into the team ?

Chelsea made the best dealings in January, by far. Jose is the best tactician in the UK, just trust me on it.

[NishC300 1,865]

Exactly how is it being a NEGATIVE approach to football scoring 3 GOALS (!) against the reigning champions, then taking pace out of the game, rest players and actually SECURE the 3 points? If we kept pushing, it could actually result in United pulling back into the game... I seem to remember another game against United, we were 3 goals up and it ended in a draw...

I guess if teams were awarded an additional point for scoring more than 3 goals it would make sense, or some sort of economical bonus. Sadly, that is not the case.

Furthermore you find our GD embarrassing (fewest goals conceded, eh, but that is not enough huh) compared to City. Get a grip, mate. They have the best strikers in the BPL, if not the world. They are the finished article. Liverpool, same story. Worldclass strikers while we have.. Torres.

We are winning games, accumulating points and fighting for the title. Those are far more important than winning 4 or 5-0 against United instead of 3-1.

Never criticised us for winning games, I just don't like the negative game.

Moreover in the 3-3 game which we drew was our mistake was that we sat back and gave United the chance to come back in the game, moreover our team is stronger than it was back then and United is weaker. I simply don't like a negative attitude mate. Overall I'm quite happy with things but there are some details that are quite frustrating. I understand what you say but I'd prefer if this team adopted a more positive attitude.

[Toli 977]

May I suggest for you to believe a bit more into the team ?

Chelsea made the best dealings in January, by far. Jose is the best tactician in the UK, just trust me on it.

I believe in the team. I just think that City is the better team and will win the EPL, while we will be fighting for 2-3 spot.

he is probably the best, he still tends to be to negative approached sometimes and thats a thing I hate on him. sometimes he is just too dependent on his pragmatic thinking and his principals. but hopefully, we will do the right moves in the summer and he will form us how he wants to.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

No matter what anyone says about Jose, you either love him or you hate him but this man has got guts, know how & is the best tactician in the UK by far.

As I look at the January transfer market, I have no alternative but to admire Jose´s dealings here.

Sold KDB, Mata for a huge profit, released funds by letting Essien to go, but invested the money & bought much needed DM Matic, pipped the liverpoops for Salah, spent around 12m for much sought for Zouma, signed Traore young & talented player.

As far as I am concerned, Chelsea is a clear winner of January dealings, by far.

If you are talking in view with our long term goals, yes.

But then again, January window is all about making those vital transfers to clinch us the title.

But I'm okay with long-term.

[bushman 2,043]

I believe in the team. I just think that City is the better team and will win the EPL, while we will be fighting for 2-3 spot.

he is probably the best, he still tends to be to negative approached sometimes and thats a thing I hate on him. sometimes he is just too dependent on his pragmatic thinking and his principals. but hopefully, we will do the right moves in the summer and he will form us how he wants to.

Ok now you are talking.