The Mourinho Thread

[Kojo 4,676]

You define transition when a club buys a new set of players. It can also mean when a club changes it's philosophy, which is exactly what Chelsea is doing right now. And the thing is, we are still in the title race, despite what some people think.

How has it changed it's philosophy?

The clubs prime target has been to play attacking football rather than counter attacking football since 2011-2012 season when AVB first started.

We are not in transition, we are set and ready to go, yes we will get better, but we have to challenge for the title and now is the time.

[AndersonBLUE 819]

How has it changed it's philosophy?

The clubs prime target has been to play attacking football rather than counter attacking football since 2011-2012 season when AVB first started.

We are not in transition, we are set and ready to go, yes we will get better, but we have to challenge for the title and now is the time.

It changed it's philosophy when FFP came in and signing a manager on a 4 year deal. And from the performances, you can tell there is change happening off field.

[Barbara 15,149]

I disagree with the main point. Lower fan expectation? This is a team which finished 3rd last year. Added more players and brought in a great manager. Expectations are to do better than last year and that's normal. Doesn't mean the fans are spoilt. Sure, the fans should have more patience but the expectations of challenging for the title are fine. Not over-ambitious at all

Ofcourse the gameplay can be a lot better and with time, it will be, but transition isn't an excuse for not doing better in the league this year. Jose wants to build a dynasty but we shouldn't take a step backwards from last year. It's pretty much the same team, only better now. Oscar, Mata, Hazard have had a year of English football under their belt. Schurrle, Willian were added to challenge them/give depth. Pretty much no other changes and with the same base formation 4-4-1-1 or 4-2-31 whichever it is

this is a team whose manager and executive have been saying that they're aiming the future first, the identity, then the rest. We finished 3rd, 14 points behind, so if we finish 8th only 10 is progress. You're treating this whole deal in such a simple and naive way... it's not just that simple because no matter who the manager is, when there's a change in command it's expected to come struggles with. Look at Pelegrini, Moyes, Ancelotti... If things were as simple as you're implying, football wouldn't be what it is.

We are spoiled, it doesn't mean being spoiled is bad. That's the thing you and Raphael took from my posts. I'm not judging anyone. Anyone can support the team the way they please, I don't care and it doesn't even bother me too much). It's unusual for me to have people being so proud to be right about the bad (and that's coming from someone from a country where managers are exchanged a few times a year in many teams - a few times a year, I'll repeat) and asking for manager heads, but overall, we support our players. I read in so many posts we should get rid of Luiz, Mata, Hazard, Mourinho, Torres, Mikel, Lampard, etc. As if they didn't belong to the club, as if they were so bad (or were so deprived of chances by Mourinho) that they should all leave in January or maybe receive the Malouda treatment. It's a feeling of overreaction, I never said people don't have a right and shouldn't overreact. The only person in all my posts I come nearly to judge was you (but never implied what kind of fan you are, just your opinion about what we're facing here)... Denying we're in transition seems just like that to me, denial, as you said with all words we aren't in transition right now. Being in transition isn't an excuse to the lack of titles, but it's a very natural and valid reason for struggling. Football isn't simple like that.

And said who to rebuild a new thing you don't have to take steps back? Maybe it's possible to do without it, sometimes it isn't. Our so amazing legacy from last year is a EL title we struggled more to win than the UCL title we beat Barcelona and Bayern. So what's so great from Chelsea last year that Mourinho should make sure is kept? If the best managers in world (or any manager) could always handle to just fix what's bad without affecting what's good, their lives would be much easier! Sorry if I think your view of this isn't realistic. The day football is as simple as you're making it out to be I'll lose all interest and will stick with volleyball.

[Sheva. 5,373]

Our team is good enough to win the league, our manager is one of the best around. Transition is an excuse for losers.

[darrus 422]

Oh my god learn what transition actually means.

I guess you should follow your own advice.

Buying players doesn't mean being in transition. If Barcelona or Ajax buys 22 new players they will still be playing the same way and getting some sort of results because the way of playing will stay the same. We don't have this sort of identity so new coach, new system and new players means time for building a team. The same is happening with City and MU this season.

If you think that sticking 15 good players and good coach in the same team means instant automatic results you seriously need a reality check - or just go study recent history of Real Madrid which is a great example of how amazing players and good coaches guarantees you nothing.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Our team is good enough to win the league, our manager is one of the best around. Transition is an excuse for losers.

The thing is the people saying we're in transition are also saying our manager is one of the best around and that our squad is probably good enough to win the league so it's not like these ideas are mutually exclusive.

[Kojo 4,676]

It changed it's philosophy when FFP came in and signing a manager on a 4 year deal. And from the performances, you can tell there is change happening off field.

That makes no sense at all, so FFP has changed everything has it? and Mourinho has?

Last time I checked we have been playing 4-2-3-1 since Di Matteo first came in, and we've playing attacking football since AVB came in, so you're just talking out of your arse hole mate. There is no change, we have gotten better but the philosophy hasn't changed, they have adapted into there own roles, they are more fluid they understand each other more.

That's what happens when you improve, there is in no way at all a transition, absolutely no way.

[Kojo 4,676]

I guess you should follow your own advice.

Buying players doesn't mean being in transition. If Barcelona or Ajax buys 22 new players they will still be playing the same way and getting some sort of results because the way of playing will stay the same. We don't have this sort of identity so new coach, new system and new players means time for building a team. The same is happening with City and MU this season.

If you think that sticking 15 good players and good coach in the same team means instant automatic results you seriously need a reality check - or just go study recent history of Real Madrid which is a great example of how amazing players and good coaches guarantees you nothing.

Read my other post, now there is a reality check.

[borriske 330]

It just seems so illogical to me. We started being a team in transition under AVB when were trying to adapt a totally different style of playing. Problem then was, besides Mata, we didnt have the players then to really implement it. RDM and benitez afterwards were merely stop-gaps, but were buying players according the same philosophy. Now, we do have the players to make it work, but hire a manager who now tries to revert to the old tactics, and unsurprisingly, for now it doesn't work.

[AndersonBLUE 819]

That makes no sense at all, so FFP has changed everything has it? and Mourinho has?

Last time I checked we have been playing 4-2-3-1 since Di Matteo first came in, and we've playing attacking football since AVB came in, so you're just talking out of your arse hole mate. There is no change, we have gotten better but the philosophy hasn't changed, they have adapted into there own roles, they are more fluid they understand each other more.

That's what happens when you improve, there is in no way at all a transition, absolutely no way.

If you really think that the owner just told Mourinho: 'follow what AVB did please' then there really is no point posting. You can tell there is a new system in play as Hazard and Mata are more defensive. Maybe you should watch a couple games and look instead of just being the token forum 'bad ass MF' thing you got going.

[Kojo 4,676]

If you really think that the owner just told Mourinho: 'follow what AVB did please' then there really is no point posting. You can tell there is a new system in play as Hazard and Mata are more defensive. Maybe you should watch a couple games and look instead of just being the token forum 'bad ass MF' thing you got going.

Oh my word, where did i say that?

I said the club has had the philosophy of attacking since AVB came in, they don't want to play counter attacking football anymore, it's been a well known fact that Abramovich wants to play attacking football. Watch the games? You signedu p for this forum at the start of last season, it's obvious to me that you have only just started watching Chelsea recently, otherwise you would have knowledge of the past Chelsea.

And learn what transition means whilst your at it. If we are in transition then so are City too. So is almost every club in the premier league.

[AndersonBLUE 819]

'Watch the games? You signedu p for this forum at the start of last season, it's obvious to me that you have only just started watching Chelsea recently, otherwise you would have knowledge of the past Chelsea.'

Did you really just write that? Just lol. Oh and you need 10,000 posts to qualify for knowing about Chelsea's history, so you're a bit short of the mark mate

[Alan Partridge 1,124]

I prefer the old Chelsea style. I personally find Barcelona's style a bit boring at times.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

The overreactions about people overreacting have become bigger than the overreactions themselves!

Lol... Your on a "likes" role today

[Kojo 4,676]

'Watch the games? You signedu p for this forum at the start of last season, it's obvious to me that you have only just started watching Chelsea recently, otherwise you would have knowledge of the past Chelsea.'

Did you really just write that? Just lol. Oh and you need 10,000 posts to qualify for knowing about Chelsea's history, so you're a bit short of the mark mate

10,000? Do you not know how to round up? I believe it's 9,000, okay so you're still in school I take it.