quickpassnmove 924 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 We will see by August-September of 2014 if Chelsea have become any more coherent.My views are probably similar to many here: Bertrand should have played more already this season, Ivanovic not so much at right back.I have no problem selling David Luiz for a good price then buying a couple solid CMs.... center back is less-important, but Zouma is actually a very good defender.Some of the loans Chelsea did this season were dumb: Wallace at Inter Milan for example, Cuevas at Vitesse, perhaps.But the biggest problems for me have been: 1) Lack of quality in center midfield MORE THAN 3 YEARS (didn't have depth behind Ballack before 3 years) and 2) Lack of playtime for young players while the more experienced players have failed under pressure or under fatigue.Looking at center midfield, it is POOR JUDGMENT that has given Chelsea a choice of Ramires (our only quality CM), Lampard, Mikel, Essien while vanGinkel went down with an injury. So, in the summer window who at Chelsea Football Club ever discussed the plan for center midfield when Ramires is injured during the coming season? It has been perplexing that while Chelsea have spent so much money compared to other clubs in the U.K. and in Europe for years that CFC still have only Ramires as a standout center midfielder for the present and future. Every neutral fan in football with a good enough football I.Q. sees this AND they can see that Chelsea have no standout playmaker who passes from deep in midfield, nor a standout defending midfielder (regardless of Ramires' ratings or his effort); why does Chelsea not see it and how are Chelsea fans content with the situation (been going on for YEARS, not months)? At the very least, it would seem wise to try players like Loftus-Cheek in the first team under the current circumstances for this season (after vanGinkel was injured). For this reason alone (nevermind the defensive line problems for the moment), Chelsea do not deserve to be title contenders this season as an organization. Spyker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 @The only place to be, Why i can 100% understand your upset at the Jose/Lukaku public slating thing, i don't think it's anything personal on Jose's behalf. He did exactly the same to Ricardo Carvalho and he was one of Mou's closest ally's. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Pretty well said.He's made mistakes but I still don't want anyone else in charge of us....I'm just impatient to see something taking shape. He just needs to get that one midfielder and I think the team will find some consistency. Maybe we are missing Oscar more than I thought because we looked like two seperate parts on Saturday (defence and attack), something that happened far too often last season.Indeed. It's become very clear we are just a couple jigsaw pieces away from becoming a really good team, and until that happens it's just a case of waiting and enjoying the good moments, being patient with the bad. I'd start to get a bit more annoyed if this doesn't happen near the end of the season, but for now all things considered we are not in too bad shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 5 in 23 games in all competitions - Everton, Newcastle, Stoke and Basel (twice).And you could probably point 2 of those losses being undeserved.You could also point that the a couple of our results deserved to be losses but weren't like the draw vs WBA and the win vs Villa. The_Flash and Mouri_Matic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 You could also point that the a couple of our results deserved to be losses but weren't like the draw vs WBA and the win vs Villa. No point talking about deserve or not, it is done and evaluating it won't change anything. If we take deserve into account Barcelona would be winning every single trophy every single season, if dominating the whole match=deserve than they have it. kellzfresh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouri_Matic 560 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 This is a must this season for Jose to stay:Capital One Cup or FA Cup(both is necessary imo)BPL top 3- just have to be done or else he deserves to be sackedAt least QF of CL unless we get Madrid/Barca/Bayern next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Watched Damned United. Striking similarities between Brian Clough and Jose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Jose has ruled out a January spending spree at Chelsea.Ifs & buts are read. This is a period for the club & a period of my team where we have to try & improve the players we have & try to build a future, Jose says.What future is he trying to build with Torres, BA, Eto´o, Essien, Mikel, Frank, Cole JT...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Despiadado.Maleante 1,046 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Press conference http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYd3TKkxlZY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushman 2,043 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 AC deserves a contract extension according to Jose. Pleased to meet you, just call me Jose, I hope you get me name...get on now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 So glad Ashley getting to plus, would also love to see Luiz aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Weckerz 3,781 Posted December 10, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted December 10, 2013 He looked happy today. Don't now why?Let's see, he's in London at his beloved club, second in the league, at the verge of winning the group in the CL, has a vast arrange of talent at his disposal, is probably living a happy family life earning the odd 10 million pounds a year. darrus, The Skipper, Ainsley Harriott and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Let's see, he's in London at his beloved club, second in the league, at the verge winning the group in the CL, has a vast arrange of talent at his disposal, is probably living a happy family life earning the odd 10 million pounds a year.yea, seems right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zyzz 711 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMUh89m_c18 iceboy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Flash 1,144 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 What happened there? i cant quite make it out? He gave his jumper to someone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 What happened there? i cant quite make it out? He gave his jumper to someone?To the translator because they did a terrific job. The_Flash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 lol at the Chelsea TV comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HD3D 1,038 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 This is a must this season for Jose to stay:Capital One Cup or FA Cup(both is necessary imo)BPL top 3- just have to be done or else he deserves to be sackedAt least QF of CL unless we get Madrid/Barca/Bayern nextSo Mourinho should be sacked if he can't achieve all of those things, please remind me how many of our past managers have done it all in one season recently?We manage to get one of the best managers in the world at a time we needed him more than he needed us (he could be anywhere from PSG to Inter, to City, to Milan to post-Moyes ManUnited, whereas Chelsea would have struggled to find a top manager willing to put up with impatient lunatics such as yourself). And here we are talking about sacking him while sitting at 2nd place in the league, and doing well in the Champions league. Barbara, Tomo and robdog 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zolayes 14,489 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 So Mourinho should be sacked if he can't achieve all of those things, please remind me how many of our past managers have done it all in one season recently?We manage to get one of the best managers in the world at a time we needed him more than he needed us (he could be anywhere from PSG to Inter, to City, to Milan to post-Moyes ManUnited, whereas Chelsea would have struggled to find a top manager willing to put up with impatient lunatics such as yourself). And here we are talking about sacking him while sitting at 2nd place in the league, and doing well in the Champions league.Its not the fans who sack the managers and not even most the fans who want the managers sacked ...I was sorry when Hoddle left ,,sad when Gullit was SACKED (after winning a trophy) sad when Vialli was SACKED (after winning a Euro Trophy)sad when Ranieri was SACKED ( despite getting us in the CL ) sad when Mourinho was sacked ( of course we won fuck all with him )Grant and Hiddink were caretakers ..was just diasppointed with Scolari who was SACKED ,,,,, VERY sad when Wilkins was SACKED ( only an assistant so got sacked at half time )sad when Carlo got SACKED ,,,(BUt he did only get us the league and F A cup double ).. sad when A V B got SACKED ( he had no support from the board or some senior platers )sad when Roberto got SACKED ( I suppose he deserved it for winning the CL ) Benitez another caretaker ..THE fans back the managers ,, The Owners Dont Sidzeret and ZOS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,510 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Its not the fans who sack the managers and not even most the fans who want the managers sacked ...I was sorry when Hoddle left ,,sad when Gullit was SACKED (after winning a trophy) sad when Vialli was SACKED (after winning a Euro Trophy)sad when Ranieri was SACKED ( despite getting us in the CL ) sad when Mourinho was sacked ( of course we won fuck all with him )Grant and Hiddink were caretakers ..was just diasppointed with Scolari who was SACKED ,,,,, VERY sad when Wilkins was SACKED ( only an assistant so got sacked at half time )sad when Carlo got SACKED ,,,(BUt he did only get us the league and F A cup double ).. sad when A V B got SACKED ( he had no support from the board or some senior platers )sad when Roberto got SACKED ( I suppose he deserved it for winning the CL ) Benitez another caretaker ..THE fans back the managers ,, The Owners Dont AvB should of stayed at Porto....he was too inexperienced for a club like ChelseaAs for the rest of the managers you listed, I was only sad when Mourinho and Hiddink left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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