The Mourinho Thread

[Sidzeret 2,257]

There is no guarantee anything will happen in January. Two players of Rami and Lampard are not working because both like to go forward, anyone who sits and allows one to go will work, even Mikel.

Its still works that way with the Rami- Lamps pivot-- when one pushes forward, the other stands ground defensively.

Since Mikel doesn't fancy going forward, it doesn't mean lamps for Mikel is the better option in our pivot. Moreover when Rami gets caught out in defense and when we push forward, it means one less person in attack.

But form wise, Lamps should be dropped.

[Special Juan 27,421]

Its still works that way with the Rami- Lamps pivot-- when one pushes forward, the other stands ground defensively.

Since Mikel doesn't fancy going forward, it doesn't mean lamps for Mikel is the better option in our pivot. Moreover when Rami gets caught out in defense and when we push forward, it means one less person in attack.

But form wise, Lamps should be dropped.

Yes he should be dropped, that's correct. I'm really failing to see what he offers right now, it isn't a lot.

JT has been rejuvenated since Jose came back, he's been incredibly solid, Lampard has been poor IMO, and Jose selection of him leaves me questioning exactly what Jose is seeing in him.

[Tomo 21,733]

Yes he should be dropped, that's correct. I'm really failing to see what he offers right now, it isn't a lot.

JT has been rejuvenated since Jose came back, he's been incredibly solid, Lampard has been poor IMO, and Jose selection of him leaves me questioning exactly what Jose is seeing in him.

I think it's more to do with the lack of options than anything else, while we have strengthened in the other area's off the pitch, MVG's injury means we basically have the same thin pivot as last season with the difference being Essien is the emergency 4th choice instead of David Luiz.

Having said that i don't think Lampard has been as bad as made out, he certainly hasn't been great and sooner or later needs replacing, but hopefully we can get by with Ramires-Mikel/Lampard until January.

[Special Juan 27,421]

I think it's more to do with the lack of options than anything else, while we have strengthened in the other area's off the pitch, MVG's injury means we basically have the same thin pivot as last season with the difference being Essien is the emergency 4th choice instead of David Luiz.

Having said that i don't think Lampard has been as bad as made out, he certainly hasn't been great and sooner or later needs replacing, but hopefully we can get by with Ramires-Mikel/Lampard until January.

I think people need to realise the club is evolving, Frank like many has been a truly amazing person for this club but we need more in that position more now than ever before. This isn't just since yesterday's defeat it's since the end of last season.

He will do a job but we need more than that, and for me the sooner we get that person the better, or develop that person the better.

[Sidzeret 2,257]

I think it's more to do with the lack of options than anything else, while we have strengthened in the other area's off the pitch, MVG's injury means we basically have the same thin pivot as last season with the difference being Essien is the emergency 4th choice instead of David Luiz.

Having said that i don't think Lampard has been as bad as made out, he certainly hasn't been great and sooner or later needs replacing, but hopefully we can get by with Ramires-Mikel/Lampard until January.

With all the limited option, it wouldn't hurt to try Luiz again in the pivot. After all, he ain't having the best of days in the CB role anyways and i'm sure he's up for it.

[Tomo 21,733]

I think people need to realise the club is evolving, Frank like many has been a truly amazing person for this club but we need more in that position more now than ever before. This isn't just since yesterday's defeat it's since the end of last season.

He will do a job but we need more than that, and for me the sooner we get that person the better, or develop that person the better.

I agree, but we can't do nothing until January, were i hope we will at the very least find a short term solution because i doubt a Gundogan or Witsel will be available in January.

[Special Juan 27,421]

With all the limited option, it wouldn't hurt to try Luiz again in the pivot. After all, he ain't having the best of days in the CB role anyways and i'm sure he's up for it.

Luiz right now is struggling with the basics, just because he has a barrier of centre backs behind him in the pivot that should mean little.

Luiz needs to get to the basics as quick as fucking possible or find himself down the road at the earliest possibly opportunity, as I feel Jose is losing it with him.

[Tomo 21,733]

With all the limited option, it wouldn't hurt to try Luiz again in the pivot. After all, he ain't having the best of days in the CB role anyways and i'm sure he's up for it.

If it came down to that, i would prefer to play Ake again. Luiz in the pivot never sat right with me, he was always disposed if pressed hard enough.

[Special Juan 27,421]

I agree, but we can't do nothing until January, were i hope we will at the very least find a short term solution because i doubt a Gundogan or Witsel will be available in January.

I heard it will be all out on Alonso…..not the racing driver

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Yes he should be dropped, that's correct. I'm really failing to see what he offers right now, it isn't a lot.

JT has been rejuvenated since Jose came back, he's been incredibly solid, Lampard has been poor IMO, and Jose selection of him leaves me questioning exactly what Jose is seeing in him.

There seems to be this thing where people remember only the last match, but Lamps actually strung together a good run of games where he was passing the ball well, defending well and forming a good partnership with Ramires.

[Special Juan 27,421]

There seems to be this thing where people remember only the last match, but Lamps actually strung together a good run of games where he was passing the ball well, defending well and forming a good partnership with Ramires.

No, no, no that is what I said, it's not just the last match he has been limited in what he offers for a while. He's struggling to cope with the pace of other teams and getting lost in a midfield battle.

You will form your opinion, and me mine, right now Frank is poor.

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No, no, no that is what I said, it's not just the last match he has been limited in what he offers for a while. He's struggling to cope with the pace of other teams and getting lost in a midfield battle.

You will form your opinion, and me mine, right now Frank is poor.

He wasn't struggling before the City game though. In fact even in that game he was limiting the much hyped Fernandinho.

One bad game and he's been struggling all season. Weird.

[Special Juan 27,421]

He wasn't struggling before the City game though. In fact even in that game he was limiting the much hyped Fernandinho.

One bad game and he's been struggling all season. Weird.

I have said it a few games this season but hey ho don't let that get in the way eh?

[Sidzeret 2,257]

I agree, but we can't do nothing until January, were i hope we will at the very least find a short term solution because i doubt a Gundogan or Witsel will be available in January.

Alonso and Witsel are the likely options. I'd prefer Witsel because of his age.

Gundogan- not happening. Klopp won't let a player like him leave, especially on the winter window

[Sidzeret 2,257]

If it came down to that, i would prefer to play Ake again. Luiz in the pivot never sat right with me, he was always disposed if pressed hard enough.

That's an even worse trait for a CB.lol

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I have said it a few games this season but hey ho don't let that get in the way eh?

I don't think I noticed.

[darrus 422]

Gundogan- not happening. Klopp won't let a player like him leave, especially on the winter window

I wouldn't risk Gundogan, he may very well turn into Sahin #2 judging by what he's showing so far. I mean he's good in Dortmund team and in his country, but forced to go abroad and play in different system he may end up being a big flop. So rather no.

[Phil Driver 503]

There is no guarantee anything will happen in January. Two players of Rami and Lampard are not working because both like to go forward, anyone who sits and allows one to go will work, even Mikel.

This all sound good in theory but Mikel - Ramires stinks it has not happened to often for a reason Spurs away scared Jose and efforts like last season at West Ham left a scar with some . It really stinks ,Rammy tends to push on too much and Mikel well just stands there it leaves a massive gap in the middle of the park . I feel sick just thinking about it .