The Mourinho Thread

[kellzfresh 7,229]

Going to Real Madrid. They said it tonight at Cadena Ser. Already negociating with Florentino Perez. Rafa Benitez will get the sack in the coming days, he's lost the dressing room, Isco won't speak to him, James is unhappy, Ronaldo walked into the dressing room after Madrid's game against Rayo and threatened to leave the team if Benitez is kept in charge. Mourinho urged Florentino Perez to speed up the negociations as Man United have offered him a contract and he has until January to give a response.

That would be far better than him going to manutd.

It's unfortunate he lost the dressing room here but what's happened has happened. He had to go for the losses to stop, hopefully he's heading far away from England.

[Sideshow Luiz 2,310]

Thanks for that fella, apologies didn't know the name but knew the face.

How longs has Tuchel been managing? Seems to know his stuff tactically, is he introducing players from their youth set up though?

No problem.

I don't actually know too much about his past coaching career, so I had to look it up.

Just about all of his time was spent at Mainz (5 years). He got them to 7th in the league for a Europa League spot, but hsi record was pretty patchy (good for Mainz though, I suppose). Schalke and Leverkusen both tried to get him. He asked to be released from his contract, spent a year away from coaching before going to Dortmund.

I find him interesting because he was hired by Dortmund without having managed a "big name" club. They took a chance on him, and it's worked out so far. For all of Bayern's dominance, Dortmund are 8 points behind them, and 6 points ahead of 3rd place.

I do think it's probably a bit pre-mature for him to be considered for the Chelsea job, I'm just wishing for something exciting and new.

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

That would be far better than him going to manutd.

It's unfortunate he lost the dressing room here but what's happened has happened. He had to go for the losses to stop, hopefully he's heading far away from England.

I agree, it's for the best, has a chance to redeem himself and fight his demons from the past.

They also said in that programme that the relationship between Sergio Ramos and Florentino Perez is completely broken and Ramos has no intention to fix it. So I'm assuming that Florentino Perez told Mourinho to deal with with the usual suspects (Ramos, Ronaldo, Pepe) until summer when he'll try to get rid of them and let him rebuild the squad. Otherwise I don't see how he'll deal with that nasty dressing room with those three in it after they (plus Iker) were the main culprits last time when Mourinho was in charge.

[Belgiannutt 3,201]

Lol anyone who knows Mourinho's history would say that's not true. He is very competitive and would never start a season with clear leaks in the squad but we did.

Let's start with summer 2013-14 - He wanted a striker, everybody knows Jose won't start a season without a proper world class striker but in the end we got an overweight and old (but still had some class) Eto'o to be our savior. That's basically giving your rivals a handicap on you.

2013-14 winter transfer window - we got 1 target Matic, but we got no striker.

2014-15 summer was good - we got our targets.

2014-15 winter window - only change was Schurrle (who wanted to leave for game time) for Cuadrado but it was clear Jose wanted a midfielder - why? He always plays Cesc as 10 and the squad player Ramires as CDM next to Matic. He knew Ramires lacked technical abilities but a midfield in big games with Oscar and Cesc was a no go.

2015-16 summer window - he clearly stated that he wanted a midfielder and defender, but he was not backed at all. We got Baba without a preseason with us, Djilobodji and Hector on deadline day and let Cech go to Arsenal - that summed up the backing he got from the board in the summer.

So basically, since summer 2014-15 we did not improve the squad at all. Jose has not been backed for a full year with a clear hole in central midfield, our starting right back as 31/32 year old and our starting CB as 34/35 year old.

The thing is your acting like this club is still run in the same manner as it was in the beginning of the Roman Abramovich era. It's not.

We're no longer the financial power house that could just blow other teams out of the water and buy whatever player we wanted.

We've gone down a different road with this club. We're trying to balance the books. Become a self-sufficient club. That means there are limitations to how much money we can spend over a short period of time.

If Morinho couldn't handle that then he had no future at this club anyway.

The whole notion though of "Mourinho didn't get every single player he wanted in the transferwindow so they didn't back him" is just ridiculous.

We were backing him. We were slowly but surely building the squad he wanted. Players who had no/very little role to play in his system were sold while we bought players who could.

Also i find it hilarious that you're actually blaming the board for Ivanovic starting at RB.

The blame falls firmly on Mourinho's shoulders for that. He was the one that stuck our best RB (Azpi) on the LB position and in the process alienated a very good attacking LB (Luis).

[OneMoSalah 8,887]

Going to Real Madrid. They said it tonight at Cadena Ser. Already negociating with Florentino Perez. Rafa Benitez will get the sack in the coming days, he's lost the dressing room, Isco won't speak to him, James is unhappy, Ronaldo walked into the dressing room after Madrid's game against Rayo and threatened to leave the team if Benitez is kept in charge. Mourinho urged Florentino Perez to speed up the negociations as Man United have offered him a contract and he has until January to give a response.

Makes no sense, how is he going to get the likes of Ronaldo, Ramos and Pepe back onside when he fractured his relationships with them in his last spell there? Is he stupid? If Ronaldo has threatened to leave which might make Perez react and sack Benitez what will happen when Jose goes back...

I don't know why he didn't go to Roma, he obviously sees himself as too big or too good for them but Real Madrid is going to be a nightmare for him if he still has strained relationships with Ronaldo and co.

[Gappy 130]

The thing is your acting like this club is still run in the same manner as it was in the beginning of the Roman Abramovich era. It's not.

We're no longer the financial power house that could just blow other teams out of the water and buy whatever player we wanted.

We've gone down a different road with this club. We're trying to balance the books. Become a self-sufficient club. That means there are limitations to how much money we can spend over a short period of time.

If Morinho couldn't handle that then he had no future at this club anyway.

The whole notion though of "Mourinho didn't get every single player he wanted in the transferwindow so they didn't back him" is just ridiculous.

We were backing him. We were slowly but surely building the squad he wanted. Players who had no/very little role to play in his system were sold while we bought players who could.

Also i find it hilarious that you're actually blaming the board for Ivanovic starting at RB.

The blame falls firmly on Mourinho's shoulders for that. He was the one that stuck our best RB (Azpi) on the LB position and in the process alienated a very good attacking LB (Luis).

From this standard ...

I don't believe that Pep, Simeone or even Pellegrini will interest to be a manager for our club.

The club that doesn't invest or give a decent players for the demand of manager but aim form Champion League and League Winner every season.

Even Sir Alex also need a players to fit his team and Man utd always support him.

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

From this standard ...

I don't believe that Pep, Simeone or even Pellegrini will interest to be a manager for our club.

The club that doesn't invest or give a decent players for the demand of manager but aim form Champion League and League Winner every season.

Even Sir Alex also need a players to fit his team and Man utd always support him.

I don't see this as a problem. IMO the manager should be much more like a coach, like the teams in Germany handle it. The board needs to consist of visionary football men who implement their vision and buy players, deploy talents accordingly whilst the manager/coach's job should be to get the best out of the squad he has. There is no sense in pursuing managers' vision since those only stay for a couple of years anyway.

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

It would be hilarious if or when say like when Jose Mourinho gets sacked at Manchester United or wherever his next managerial job in football is.

[the wes 7,212]

If mourinho gones to utd he will be class has a Judas in my eyes

[Laugh1ngMan 393]

If mourinho gones to utd he will be class has a Judas in my eyes

and yet fans will cheer him if we were to play against him like they did with lamps and cech whilst booing players actually playing for the club

[kiwi1691 255]

If mourinho gones to utd he will be class has a Judas in my eyes

Then you need to grow up. The club sacked him he can do what he wants.

[the wes 7,212]

Then you need to grow up. The club sacked him he can do what he wants.

maybe I do need to grow up but the Chelsea fans have always been loyal to mourinho up till he got sacked so he should respect the Chelsea fans back with not joining utd

[Clockwork 1,794]

Cech is one of us - we let him go to a rival but do you want to call him a wanker?

Lamps is one of us - we let him go to a rival but do you want to call him a wanker?

Mourinho is one of us - we let him go. There are precious few jobs around for a man of his calibre so do you want to call him a wanker for choosing one where he'll get the backing of the board?

Come on mate. Passions are running high but you don't mean it when you call him a wanker do you?

Am I missing something "one of us" means he is one of the supporters right?

Cech, Lampard, and Mourinho are club legends and they will never be forgotten for their contribution. But they are not "one of us" they are not supporters of the club. A supporter of the club would never support a rival club. You, me, or anyone else on this forum would never support a rival club. How can someone claim he is one of the supporters if he is managing a rival club.

As I said nothing against Mourinho, Cech, or Lampard. In fact Lamps is my all time fav player.

[kiwi1691 255]

maybe I do need to grow up but the Chelsea fans have always been loyal to mourinho up till he got sacked so he should respect the Chelsea fans back with not joining utd

Some have been loyal, some here hated him when we were winning. Don't forget FSW is doing so poorly at Real, Perez apparently wants Mou back.

[the wes 7,212]

Some have been loyal, some here hated him when we were winning. Don't forget FSW is doing so poorly at Real, Perez apparently wants Mou back.

i think it will be between utd or real he will go too I hope its real

[Essien19 1,415]

maybe I do need to grow up but the Chelsea fans have always been loyal to mourinho up till he got sacked so he should respect the Chelsea fans back with not joining utd

If he manages United, it's just a job for him, Chelsea will always be his number one, but the board sacked him.

Yes, i would prefer seeing him in Spain, i need a La Liga subscription asap. Hope he can break Barca, again.

[the wes 7,212]

the board sacked him.

yes the board sacked him not the Chelsea fans u should respect are wishes and not join utd

[Essien19 1,415]

yes the board sacked him not the Chelsea fans u should respect are wishes and not join utd

Yes, i would prefer that too. But i don't want to take away what's very important to Jose Mourinho: being a football manager.

I think he would like to stay in England, maybe a smaller club would be better for us, but a man with his credentials will go to a top club, that where he belongs, imo.

Lampard went straight to City, Cech to Arsenal, they all want to work, no, sitting on the bench isn't the same, i respect their decision.

They gave their all for our club, they aren't slaves, in the future they can do whatever they want, that won't change the past and the great time we had, imo.

Agree to disagree, mate.

Cheers.

[stroey 2,525]

If mourinho gones to utd he will be class has a Judas in my eyes

The club sacked him twice, what do you expect him to do at 52 years old with another 15-20 years in front of him? To retire? No matter how people look at him, he's still an elite manager that is wanted by the biggest clubs and there are not so many big clubs where he can go. You can't expect him to coach Crystal Palace or QPR. His family loves England, and for him his family is also very important:

“My passion for England starts with my passion for English football. The life in England comes after that. I came to England for the first time because I wanted so much to have the experience of English football. After that, yes, you learn how to love to live in England – particularly in London – and obviously to be back for the second time was also a factor because working in Portugal, Spain, Italy, obviously in London I have a little bit more space to live with my family and a normal life. England and London gives a privacy we can’t get anywhere else.

[the wes 7,212]

Yes, i would prefer that too. But i don't want to take away what's very important to Jose Mourinho: being a football manager.

I think he would like to stay in England, maybe a smaller club would be better for us, but a man with his credentials will go to a top club, that where he belongs, imo.

Lampard went straight to City, Cech to Arsenal, they all want to work, no, sitting on the bench isn't the same, i respect their decision.

They gave their all for our club, they aren't slaves, in the future they can do whatever they want, that won't change the past and the great time we had, imo.

Agree to disagree, mate.

Cheers.

fair point mate