The Mourinho Thread

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

PIERS MORGAN: The sacking of Jose Mourinho is the worst decision in football history - shameful Chelsea should have let HIM sack his treacherous prima donna stars for playing like Christmas turkeys and conspiring to bring him down

I bet the fact cunt has barely even watched a Chelsea game in the last few months.

[Fernando 6,586]

Chelsea is one of the biggest clubs in the world and is one point above the relegation places in the Premier League; that is not good enough. - Emanolo

Say what you want about the guy but that was the brutal truth!

[Diceflix 207]

And now United are gearing up to hire Him as Van Gaal replacement

[Ossie the King 634]

Yes, I agree - he managed to pull off a miracle. Nobody denies he can win trophies, but consistently over a long period, that's where problems seem to have emerged. Let's face it, this season is pretty identical to his last season at Real Madrid - the outbursts, the alienation of players, the humiliation of Matic, the argument with Medical staff, the crazy pressers - just something snapped and he wasn't acting normal!

So now we're saying the league win was a miracle? 2012, that was a miracle. I'm not a believer in winning leagues being a miracle. Over 38 games you get found out.

Attacking philosophy is a natural reaction to having a crop of attack minded players, but using them to try and grind out 1-0 wins, it's like using a Ferrari as a milk float - impractical and unrealistic. That in my mind is why there's so much chatter about attacking formation and philosophy, because that's what our current crop of players naturally gravitate towards.

We also have a crop of defensive-minded players. That's the way football teams work though, you have a balance between defence and attack and saying 'I want an attack-minded coach so we score more goals' seems a flawed way to look at football. I can point to many matches under Mourinho where we've absolutely decimated teams....but still 2-0 away to Liverpool is one of the best results I've ever witnessed, as was Munich.

We have made year on year advances towards cash neutrality, stadium expansion planned, great youth Acadamy and a move towards a sustainable business model. Thank God for FFP previously as it has put us in a great position to minimise the damage of the lack of revenue from this season.

Let's see what the interim manager can achieve and if there is an ultimate successor already in the wings.

Yes, it's a sad day, but now is the time for optimism I feel, it sure beats the alternatives...

Again, who do you want and what do you want us to become? You talk about cash neutrality but that is what Arsenal fans talk about? Yes we have a great Academy in terms of results but what type of football do you want these kids to learn, because a kid of 18 may well have been through 7 or 8 managers each wanting different things. You probably want consistency for these kids, well who dictates that?

You can be optimistic because you've got what you want. I on the other hand think we've lost one of us and a person who is great at their job.

[nullabletype 987]

Chelsea is one of the biggest clubs in the world and is one point above the relegation places in the Premier League; that is not good enough. - Emanolo

Say what you want about the guy but that was the brutal truth!

Nobody will disagree with that. Nor do we need that irrelevant tube to tell us. The issue folks have is whether or not the correct party bit the bullet and Emanalo's brutal truth, for everything that it's not worth, fails to help us out on that front.

[Fernando 6,586]

Nobody will disagree with that. Nor do we need that irrelevant tube to tell us. The issue folks have is whether or not the correct party bit the bullet and Emanalo's brutal truth, for everything that it's not worth, fails to help us out on that front.

Well we will only know by who we appoint in the summer since no doubt hiddink is coming in as a term management.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,920]

And now United are gearing up to hire Him as Van Gaal replacement

I'd have lingaard from them in a second if Jose goes there and starts getting rid of their young players like he did with us.

[Muzchap 8,966]

So now we're saying the league win was a miracle? 2012, that was a miracle. I'm not a believer in winning leagues being a miracle. Over 38 games you get found out.

We also have a crop of defensive-minded players. That's the way football teams work though, you have a balance between defence and attack and saying 'I want an attack-minded coach so we score more goals' seems a flawed way to look at football. I can point to many matches under Mourinho where we've absolutely decimated teams....but still 2-0 away to Liverpool is one of the best results I've ever witnessed, as was Munich.

Again, who do you want and what do you want us to become? You talk about cash neutrality but that is what Arsenal fans talk about? Yes we have a great Academy in terms of results but what type of football do you want these kids to learn, because a kid of 18 may well have been through 7 or 8 managers each wanting different things. You probably want consistency for these kids, well who dictates that?

You can be optimistic because you've got what you want. I on the other hand think we've lost one of us and a person who is great at their job.

OK, miracle was a bit far, but we started so well and then just died and dragged ourselves over the line. I admit, I thought that would be a turning point, Jose instilling a winners mentality into the players - but it just didn't seem to happen.

Maybe it's me, but younger people nowadays just seem more fragile, when I look back at teachers and bosses, some were lunatics, but it taught you mental toughness, maybe that's missing from modern pampered players? Whatever the problem, it just got worse and worse.

For me, financial stability and self generating income is an important part of a Club, who knows what could happen in the future, being financially astute is never a bad thing.

I agree the constant u-turns for the youth team are not helpful or conducive to a conveyor belt process, but to me the footballing identity should be set by the club and the manager is responsible for implementing it,if we did this, then the manager merry-go-round would have little overall impact

I honestly don't know who I want long term

I'm more than happy for Hiddink to come in, calm the situation down and see how he does, if the club can work on my point above, then the disruption of the next manager coming along will be reduced. I don't think Pep is the answer here. I would have taken Klopp in a heartbeat. I think Koeman could do a decent job, or maybe Frank De Boer could be an ideal person.

Phone typing killing me - hitting the sack

[Pizy 18,977]

Please just go to Real Madrid so I can still root for and love him.

[Adnane 1,101]

There is good, accurate, subtle real-time marketing.

And there is this tweet.

This is bullshit, whoever is responsible of this tweet should get the sack himself, no creativity.

[Muzchap 8,966]

There is good, accurate, subtle real-time marketing.

And there is this tweet.

This is bullshit, whoever is responsible of this tweet should get the sack himself, no creativity.

Yup, Domino's only for me, from now on!

[Gappy 130]

Form is temporary Class is permanent.

The way some of our fans treat our legend with no respect like this proof that We may deserve no Class.

And anyone that think he wasn't our legend was totally should disgrace yourself.

[iseah100 5,612]

One of us. Always and forever. Love Jose.

[iseah100 5,612]

Form is temporary Class is permanent.

The way some of our fans treat our legend with no respect like this proof that We may deserve no Class.

And anyone that think he wasn't our legend was totally should disgrace yourself.

I wanted him to stay. Fuck The Board.

[Muzchap 8,966]

Why you guys make him going to United a terrible thing? Yes it will hurt that he's managing another PL club, but United will be in a position of "one step forward, two steps back".

Mourinho can only provide them short-term success. That's it. What happened here in Chelsea and Madrid will happen with United if they get him. Then they'll soon be in the same position as we are today. United will also be on a manager merry-go-round.

He'll also destroy any youth development that is happening there. United fans don't want him there as well because he's no different to Van Gaal with dull defensive football.

If United are smart, they should know Mourinho isn't the answer to fix their problems.

P.S - Imagine Chelsea playing against Mourinho's United at the Bridge, as they park the bus playing for a 0-0 draw. Will we call United cowards? I'm sure United fans will be angry themselves too.

I guess it depends on which Mou they get

If they get Mk2 - I agree

If Mk1 reappears - I will be apoplectic and will probably self combust into a ball of shame

[iseah100 5,612]

Why you guys make him going to United a terrible thing? Yes it will hurt that he's managing another PL club, but United will be in a position of "one step forward, two steps back".

Mourinho can only provide them short-term success. That's it. What happened here in Chelsea and Madrid will happen with United if they get him. Then they'll soon be in the same position as we are today. United will also be on a manager merry-go-round.

He'll also destroy any youth development that is happening there. United fans don't want him there as well because he's no different to Van Gaal with dull defensive football.

If United are smart, they should know Mourinho isn't the answer to fix their problems.

P.S - Imagine Chelsea playing against Mourinho's United at the Bridge, as they park the bus playing for a 0-0 draw. Will we call United cowards? [emoji38] I'm sure United fans will be angry themselves too.

All United fans I've seen have said they'd welcome him.

[Muzchap 8,966]

All United fans I've seen have said they'd welcome him.

Is that supposed to be factual?

There you go - all square, one critique each...

[iseah100 5,612]

Is that supposed to be factual?

There you go - all square, one critique each...

ALL United fans I'VE seen.

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[The Chels 2,502]

About the 'I'd rather lose for Mourinho than win for him' quote that surfaced earlier in the season, Garry Richardson (who revealed the quote) elaborated on BBC 5 Live yesterday.

According to him it was said in the heat of the moment as a response to 'Come on, you can win this game for us.' He goes on to say that a couple of days afterwards, Mourinho said there were a 'couple of bad apples causing me lots of problems and it's a very difficult situation to handle.' Assuming the quote is genuine and that it's from someone who can 'win the game for us' then that would surely narrow it down to a couple. I would guess Costa and given the whole bib incident, it wouldn't be surprising if he was one of the 'bad apples' Mourinho was referring to.

(You can listen to Garry at around minute 50 on the 'Chelsea sack Mourinho' segment if you navigate through the 'live coverage' bit on http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/34413864)

[Muzchap 8,966]

About the 'I'd rather lose for Mourinho than win for him' quote that surfaced earlier in the season, Garry Richardson (who revealed the quote) elaborated on BBC 5 Live yesterday.

According to him it was said in the heat of the moment as a response to 'Come on, you can win this game for us.' He goes on to say that a couple of days afterwards, Mourinho said there were a 'couple of bad apples causing me lots of problems and it's a very difficult situation to handle'. Assuming the quote is genuine and that it's from someone who can 'win the game for us' I would guess Costa. Given the whole bib incident, it wouldn't be surprising if he was one of the 'bad apples' Mourinho was referring to.

(You can listen to Garry at around minute 50 on the 'Chelsea sack Mourinho' segment if you navigate through the 'live coverage' bit on http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/34413864)

If true, even in the heat of the moment - thats probably an irreversible comment and the player should be shown the door.

If not, it sets a bad precedent.

Fergie would not have tolerated that, neither should we.