The Mourinho Thread

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

  On 02/11/2015 at 15:17, Pizy said:

We aren't like Liverpool or Spurs, though, who very rarely play in the CL and their star players want to move on to a bigger club. Hazard would know that Chelsea can immedietly bounce back and he wouldn't be wasting years of his career trying to get back into the CL.

I don't think he's a coward who will jump ship. I think he'll stay.

If he's jumping ship, it will because he's trying to move to a bigger club in Madrid with more attacking freedoms, playing next to better players, and in a less physical league, not because he doesn't believe we can't bounce back (In the event we don't make the CL)

[MetsajCFC 1,255]

  On 02/11/2015 at 15:12, quickpassnmove said:

Too early to say. Don't give up.

After I went to sleep this morning, the good news started coming out: Jose gone in a week and Chelsea only owe him for one year's salary upon his dismissal.

We can't get players back that were sold during his time, but we have promise for the the future.

I hope the next manager is capable of producing every kind of football needed to win.

Needed to win? We won a title 5 months ago.

[quickpassnmove 924]

  On 02/11/2015 at 15:26, MrExcalibur100 said:

I haven't given up, not at all. I have long since given up on Mourinho, admittedly, I never supported his return, but I will never give up on Chelsea. I'm very optimistic about the additions of Pedro and Kenedy for instance.

There is cause for optimism. Contrary to what writers like Martin Samuel will have us believe, this is a very, very good squad. Easily one of the top 2 strongest sides in the country, if not the strongest. What we need is just a central midfielder and another right back as back up for Azpilicueta if Ivanovic is sold. That way we have Rahman & Ake as LB options and Azpi and another RB as RB options. We also need a new CB. JT's days. at the very highest echelon of centre-backs might be numbered. Zouma & Cahill are not enough. I'm also not that enthused about the idea of Ivanovic returning to his original position at centre-back to add as back-up. He's been an amazing servant, but he is past his prime. Our board also needs to be more sensible and realistic. Witsel, Schneiderlin and Alderweireld were available last summer, but we spent all our time chasing Pogba and Stones. That was really, really stupid.

I know. I've been wanting Morgan S. for more than 2.5 years and I wanted two CM, two FBs.

It's been a mess --and longer than just Jose's 2nd term.

[Pizy 18,552]

  On 02/11/2015 at 15:27, MrExcalibur100 said:

If he's jumping ship, it will because he's trying to move to a bigger club in Madrid with more attacking freedoms, playing next to better players, and in a less physical league, not because he doesn't believe we can't bounce back (In the event we don't make the CL)

He'd be an idiot to go to Madrid in my opinion and I'd lose all respect for him if he did. Unless they sold off a star or two before signing him. If they want to keep Isco, James, Bale, CR7, and Benzema AND sign Hazard then he'd be stupid to go there and not play every match.

Chelsea is the perfect club for him.

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

Here is the link to the article written by Dan Levene, sorry for not posting it earlier, was at the uni..

http://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/premier-league/2015-2016/chelsea-crisis-mourinho-could-be-gone-after-saturday-s-trip-to-stoke-win-or-lose_sto4975220/story.shtml#uk-tw-po

[Tomo 21,741]

  On 02/11/2015 at 13:35, MrExcalibur100 said:

United, City, Arsenal, Bayern, Barcelona, Madrid and PSG. In the event that Mourinho is indeed sacked, I absolutely don't see him being wanted by any of these clubs for various and different reasons. Anywhere he goes from Chelsea will be a step down. Monaco and Inter being the most likely options.

If Mourinho gets sacked here, his ability to manage long term will be exposed for all to see, but he's still the best around in getting instant success, want that and Jose is you're man, it might even get him a 3rd spellhere before he retires.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

  On 02/11/2015 at 15:37, Tomo said:

If Mourinho gets sacked here, his ability to manage long term will be exposed for all to see, but he's still the best around in getting instant success, want that and Jose is you're man, it might even get him a 3rd spellhere before he retires.

Instant success. I don't even know what that means anymore. Two league titles and a couple of small cups in his last two clubs. A lot of underwhelming campaigns in Europe in-between. That instant success is no more better or worse than what a Guardiola, Ancelotti, Conte and Simeone have achieved at their respective clubs in recent years. I don't see how he's the "best around".

For me, it's only a desperate big club that I see going after him from this point on. I absolutely don't see him back here for a 3rd time. That will be tragic.

[FabHazard 655]

  On 02/11/2015 at 15:26, MrExcalibur100 said:

I haven't given up, not at all. I have long since given up on Mourinho, admittedly, I never supported his return, but I will never give up on Chelsea. I'm very optimistic about the additions of Pedro and Kenedy for instance.

There is cause for optimism. Contrary to what writers like Martin Samuel will have us believe, this is a very, very good squad. Easily one of the top 2 strongest sides in the country, if not the strongest. What we need is just a central midfielder and another right back as back up for Azpilicueta if Ivanovic is sold. That way we have Rahman & Ake as LB options and Azpi and another RB as RB options. We also need a new CB. JT's days. at the very highest echelon of centre-backs might be numbered. Zouma & Cahill are not enough. I'm also not that enthused about the idea of Ivanovic returning to his original position at centre-back to add as back-up. He's been an amazing servant, but he is past his prime. Our board also needs to be more sensible and realistic. Witsel, Schneiderlin and Alderweireld were available last summer, but we spent all our time chasing Pogba and Stones. That was really, really stupid.

I agree we seriously need to reform our defensive tactics to play a high line and building the play from back..IMO we need a CB , RB and a midfielder to make this squad highly competitve

[Fulham Broadway 17,092]

  On 02/11/2015 at 15:36, Bosnian Blue said:

Here is the link to the article written by Dan Levene, sorry for not posting it earlier, was at the uni..http://www.eurosport.co.uk/football/premier-league/2015-2016/chelsea-crisis-mourinho-could-be-gone-after-saturday-s-trip-to-stoke-win-or-lose_sto4975220/story.shtml#uk-tw-po

Hes usually right, but quite often spouts bollocks.

If there was substance to this, you'd think it would be in the broadsheets, rather than an article on eurospurt..

[Adnane 1,101]

"A lot of underwhelming European campaigns" when the man has reached CL semi-final 5 times and won it once in his last 6 seasons :lol:

People will do/say anything to serve their agendas nowadays won't they ?

[Bosnian Blue 2,471]

  On 02/11/2015 at 15:56, Fulham Broadway said:

Hes usually right, but quite often spouts bollocks.

If there was substance to this, you'd think it would be in the broadsheets, rather than an article on eurospurt..

Don't shoot the messenger mate

He does have good info about the Chels, so I wouldn't be surprised if its true. Honestly doubt Mour can turn it around, because for every positive there are three negatives lately. Would love if he proves us all wrong though, just can't see it.

[Tomo 21,741]

  On 02/11/2015 at 15:48, MrExcalibur100 said:

Instant success. I don't even know what that means anymore. Two league titles and a couple of small cups in his last two clubs. A lot of underwhelming campaigns in Europe in-between. That instant success is no more better or worse than what a Guardiola, Ancelotti, Conte and Simeone have achieved at their respective clubs in recent years. I don't see how he's the "best around".

For me, it's only a desperate big club that I see going after him from this point on. I absolutely don't see him back here for a 3rd time. That will be tragic.

League success within a year at most two, he's done that at every club, if you are at the top domestically but need to makethe jump in Europe, Jose is proven in that (Inter or Porto), if you are 2nd/3rd best in the league and want to eclipse the best team, he in Jose (knocked Arsenals invincible and Peps Barca off their perch). Arsenal themselves are a team that could be tempted by Jose, if Wenger leaves without a league title since 2004 a club like Arsenal will want to end that drought soon, Jose will nearly guarentee one.

Also I can see him here for a 3rd time, he won't want his last moment at this club to be this shitstrorm and unlike this time, we will know its only for a couple of years, so unless we have found "our Fergie" by then, I can definitely see it happening.

[Gappy 130]

Even Pep just won 2 UCL with his MESSI and LEGENDARY BARCELONA SQUAD

Jose won 2 UCL with PORTO and INTER

poor Jose he should do better than this lol

[Melanicus 5,208]

Mourinho getting fired after Stoke game actually makes sense. There is a two week brake and the new guy can get to know the team and so on. Mourinho will probably go to Monaco.

It's sad it has to finish like that. At least to me.

[Pizy 18,552]

  On 02/11/2015 at 16:20, Melanicus said:

Mourinho getting fired after Stoke game actually makes sense. There is a two week brake and the new guy can get to know the team and so on. Mourinho will probably go to Monaco.

It's sad it has to finish like that. At least to me.

Why on Earth would he go to Monaco? Tiny, insignificant club with a tiny stadium, in a poor league with no chance of eclipsing PSG, and on top of all that their owner has sold off all their best players and pulled his money out.

[Melanicus 5,208]

  On 02/11/2015 at 16:29, Pizy said:

Why on Earth would he go to Monaco? Tiny, insignificant club with a tiny stadium, in a poor league with no chance of eclipsing PSG, and on top of all that their owner has sold off all their best players and pulled his money out.

Because who wouldn't go to Monaco? As a player or as a manager. Great place to live in & shitload of money.

[Gappy 130]

Isn't MONACO didn't even have a money to pay Falcao wage ?

[Pizy 18,552]

  On 02/11/2015 at 16:31, Melanicus said:

Because who wouldn't go to Monaco? As a player or as a manager. Great place to live in & shitload of money.

It's a place for rich people to retire or earn one last fat pay day. Mourinho's ego and ability are far, FAR too huge to be wasted there.

If we sack him he'll be at another big club within a year or two.