The Mourinho Thread

[edetarod 2,155]

this season he had the excuse of no proper striker and first season with us

next season the pressure on him will be huge

[darrus 422]

According to Diego Torres' book (probably bullshit). Mourinho, in his time in charge with Madrid, hardly ever did any "static attack" training. i.e attacking build-up while playing possession football.

Sorry, but that is bullshit of the highest order. There are enough videos/reports from coaches present at open trainings/excersise schemes to contradict this statement.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

this season he had the excuse of no proper striker and first season with us

next season the pressure on him will be huge

Yea next season the pressure will be huge, but if there is any that thrives in pressure its Jose

[The only place to be 11,313]

Seems a really innocuous point but it's been getting to me for months now;

Why can't any of our players take set pieces? I mean seriously, Willian, Luiz, Ivan, Schurrle (and even Lamps now) are all just terrible. I don't remember us creating any goals from a corner or free kick in recent memory... It's really weird and I have no idea why it is. Every free kick/corner either doesn't pass the first man or goes well over everyone. Surely that's a basic thing?

Eto'o scored from a corner in our last home match against Sunderland and Ivanovic hit the bar from one in exactly the same game. In fact Luiz hit the post from a free-kick last night as well.

[lionsden 4,689]

Jose didn't park the bus yesterday. Where is that even coming from?

He might as well have, with the team he selected. what's the fucking point of picking 6 defenders to play ehm open/attacking/counter attacking (whatever you want to call it) football?

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He might as well have, with the team he selected. what's the fucking point of picking 6 defenders to play ehm open/attacking/counter attacking (whatever you want to call it) football?

One of those defenders was Luiz, a guy who has played more in midfield than he has in defence. You're just regurgitating the shit other fans throw at Mourinho, but we'll forgive you because all the blood probably rushed from your brain to your cock when you woke up this morning and saw the score.

But yeah, he should have chosen Lamps Mikel Matic Oscar Van Ginkel.

[lionsden 4,689]

I have got to say that for all the reputation Atleti has, they do keep possession and create clear cut chances incredibly well. kudos to simeone. that's what a rugged, well balanced and well coached counter attacking team should look like. He should win manager of the year for sure.

[didierforever 7,349]

One of those defenders was Luiz, a guy who has played more in midfield than he has in defence. You're just regurgitating the shit other fans throw at Mourinho, but we'll forgive you because all the blood probably rushed from your brain to your cock when you woke up this morning and saw the score.

But yeah, he should have chosen Lamps Mikel Matic Oscar Van Ginkel.

.... OWNED!!!!

[Styles 9,790]

I have got to say that for all the reputation Atleti has, they do keep possession and create clear cut chances incredibly well. kudos to simeone. that's what a rugged, well balanced and well coached counter attacking team should look like. He should win manager of the year for sure.

They showed that although a counter-attack is their plan A they have a lot more to their game than that. The second half was a clinic. They did exactly what we were incapable of doing which is keep the ball, make them work and then pick them off. Their passing was ridiculously good, they worked the ball all over the field with no player letting them down in possession.

[lionsden 4,689]

They showed that although a counter-attack is their plan A they have a lot more to their game than that. The second half was a clinic. They did exactly what we were incapable of doing which is keep the ball, make them work and then pick them off. Their passing was ridiculously good, they worked the ball all over the field with no player letting them down in possession.

And you know the depressing part, they didn't need to spend £200m plus to achieve it. That's what appointing the right manager, excellent scouting, faith in youth and great planning can achieve. I expect us to spend another £100m plus on technically average players in the summer and back to square one. . . . . . . .

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They showed that although a counter-attack is their plan A they have a lot more to their game than that. The second half was a clinic. They did exactly what we were incapable of doing which is keep the ball, make them work and then pick them off. Their passing was ridiculously good, they worked the ball all over the field with no player letting them down in possession.

I'm not sure if you were unaware about this before last night's game, or if it's just a dig at Mourinho.

Simeone has done a fantastic job in his two and a half years at Atletico - in that same time frame we've had FOUR managers. You'd expect any top manager to develop a team to play in their philosophy in that time wouldn't you?

[laura90 556]

They showed that although a counter-attack is their plan A they have a lot more to their game than that. The second half was a clinic. They did exactly what we were incapable of doing which is keep the ball, make them work and then pick them off. Their passing was ridiculously good, they worked the ball all over the field with no player letting them down in possession.

And that's what our team should be able to do, regardless of the results, before we can call trophyless season success.

Nothing we show on the pitch , when we are prevented from playing counter attacking game we excel, suggest to me that we made foundations for next season.

It feels like that despite good results this season, when it comes to our attack or possession play in general, we are back to square one. Lot of work to be done.

[DYC. 7,542]

They showed that although a counter-attack is their plan A they have a lot more to their game than that. The second half was a clinic. They did exactly what we were incapable of doing which is keep the ball, make them work and then pick them off. Their passing was ridiculously good, they worked the ball all over the field with no player letting them down in possession.

And they learned how to do that by hours of practice on the training ground. Look at Everton, they went from a power team to a team comfortable in possession, with precise passing, clear patterns of play and strong movement.

I find it shocking that a team like Chelsea are so poor with the ball, unless they're on the break. It's unacceptable.

[The only place to be 11,313]

And that's what our team should be able to do, regardless of the results, before we can call trophyless season success.

Nothing we show on the pitch , when we are prevented from playing counter attacking game we excel, suggest to me that we made foundations for next season.

It feels like that despite good results this season, when it comes to our attack or possession play in general, we are back to square one. Lot of work to be done.

So Mourinho should've been able to institute a counter-attacking philosophy as well as a possession-based plan B in his first season, that can be used even when we're facing the team top of La Liga and have Ramires and Luiz in midfield (pass masters don't you know) and are missing our best midfielder and the number 10 who was carrying us earlier in the season....

oh and Torres and Eto'o as our striking options.

Right.

Here's a question - there seems to be a few of you who constantly criticise Mourinho. If you don't think he's the man why don't you have the balls (or cojones to use Diego's word) to actually start a thread entitled 'Mourinho Out'. Better yet, bring a banner or start a chant at the next match and see what response you get.

[Styles 9,790]

I'm not sure if you were unaware about this before last night's game, or if it's just a dig at Mourinho.

Simeone has done a fantastic job in his two and a half years at Atletico - in that same time frame we've had FOUR managers. You'd expect any top manager to develop a team to play in their philosophy in that time wouldn't you?

No mate, it's definitely not a dig at Mourinho. If anything it's a dig at the group of players we've assembled for a huge cost that seem incapable of keeping the ball/doing the basics like passing accurately to a teammate.

I expect us to get better under Mourinho.

[lionsden 4,689]

Roman wanted result at all cost that's why he hired Jose. I don't expect much to change next season in terms oif playing style. I have become accustomed to shit on a stick football that we have been playing since 2010/11 season.

[Styles 9,790]

And that's what our team should be able to do, regardless of the results, before we can call trophyless season success.

Nothing we show on the pitch , when we are prevented from playing counter attacking game we excel, suggest to me that we made foundations for next season.

It feels like that despite good results this season, when it comes to our attack or possession play in general, we are back to square one. Lot of work to be done.

I don't blame Mourinho though. We can't play better football with the players we have, training/coaching plays a part but if a player can't pass the ball accurately what do you want the coach to do?

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Arsenal will no doubt have fa cup...city have league cup, liverpool/city have title....

We have 3rd place....YIPEEEEE!!!

Tell me again Mou did good....how? Rafa got 3rd AND Europa!

Results need time. Thats all. I didnt expect we will win anything but we almost did. Im not too happy with football we played this year, but once our attack will be complete, we will have realy good counter attacking team.

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No mate, it's definitely not a dig at Mourinho. If anything it's a dig at the group of players we've assembled for a huge cost that seem incapable of keeping the ball/doing the basics like passing accurately to a teammate.

I expect us to get better under Mourinho.

Fair enough. I imagine when Jose envisaged his team it didn't have Ramires and Luiz at the heart of it though. He wants players like Matic and maybe even Paulinho who actually have some talent on the ball.

[Svita 10 186]

Impossible to mention Mourinho here: weird tactics in the first leg, and awkward line-up today. Second season in a row, and no trophies for the special one, second season in a row he was outclassed by another manager (Klopp last season).

Just like Guardiola, Mourinho should rethink his football philosophy.

did you said this after sunday when we win over Liverpool??