edetarod 2,155 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Oh shit....and there's only 26 games left this season.Oh well, we tried.Hahaha These silly comments it's not even December.The title particularly if you have even watched over the last few years has come down to one point or even goal difference. There is a VERY long time to go, sometimes teams like 10 points ahead DONT win.Also when we won the CL I thought we were going out and look what turned out. I think the CL will not happen, Real and Munich are too good but we should push for the league and the cups.Any ridiculous talk of sacking Jose and we are in a crisis is glory hunting nonsense.still doesn't make what i said not true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roquila 1,335 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 To all those plastic fans who wants Jose to get the sack:........... Suck Big Sams DICK! The_Flash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 The Basle game reminded me of the first half at Spurs the team was stretched and not compact with the opposition dominating ,the difference was at Spurs he changed it for the second half, I am sure that will not have been lost on Jose and his analysis of what is wrong with us at the moment. With this formation you need to press from all positions and seek to regain possesion as high up the pitch as posssible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 That's the thing, I agree with your sentiment. We don't have many players suited to any style of football which is why we almost always play crap, disjointed football. There has been very little thought, if any, that has gone into how our squad has been built. It's just a random assortment of players thrown together with no idea how each player affects the other(s) and the overall style of play. I've just learnt to accept that's how things are and try not to complain much any more to be honest.Hit the nail on the head. And I know that it has become boring to keep saying this, but I can't help but think that managerial stability has a lot to do with that. Say what you want about Wenger, but all his players fit his style/philosophy while we, in the past two years, have gone from AVB's high-press/high-line to RDM's....errm...let's call it "tactical freedom", to Jose's counter-attacking football (didn't mention Rafa because he was not involved in any transfers). It is no wonder that Jose still doesn't know what his starting XI is; we don't even have 11 players that fit the same style! Styles and Strike 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman60 1,343 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Last night against Basel, we were rubbish and got exactly what we deserved....nothing. But we cannot blame Mourinho for that. The team he put out SHOULD have won that match easily. But Basel rose their game against us and the team (that's our guys on the pitch!!) failed to produce what they are capable of. They were sloppy in their passing, sloppy in their closing down and seemingly disinterested in creating any shots on target. The boss cannot be held responsible for poor player performance, and I am fully sure he has already told them that.Wait and see the changes he makes for Southampton. I am sure there will be a shake up :blue scalf: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,141 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Most teams approach us as a cup final, we need to match that attitude and hunger.No game is a given, not team has a right to lay down for us, we need to start getting back to being difficult to play against and team not looking forward to facing us. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Cahill is a good shout as well, nowhere near where he should be staying to be in position to cover for IvanovicI think Jose would have become used to that by now! ChelseasMessiah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Partridge 1,124 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 This is really embarrassing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 29, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted November 29, 2013 It is a shame there isnt a middle ground amongst our fans. People either defend Jose at all costs or they attack and blame him for all our problems!It doesnt work like that.Firstly, criticizing Mourinho doesnt mean you dont like Chelsea does it mean you love Chelsea more than other if you defend Jose. Secondly, he has made mistakes but also some great improvements (which partially explains our roller coaster season). Thirdly, Jose is still in the beginning of a long term project, so stop talking about sacking him that it sounds absolutely pathetic. Lastly, he is only our manager and a team is more than its manager, whenever we win or lose its not all because of him.I have just 5+ pages worth of reactions and I almost cried (or laughed, I couldnt decide). The posts complaining about him are shite, the posts complaining about others complaining are shite and so on, it is all shite (including this own post).It is not hard to see why the best members have left. There arent enough intelligent people who know about football anymore and the ones who do cant have a civilized debated whenever someone disagrees with them... Ainsley Harriott, Despiadado.Maleante, Barbara and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeMon 34 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 I find it very weird the whole Mourinho coming back.It feels to me like he was never gone but then I still get excited about the concept of us having him back.I think he's getting closer to knowing his ideal shape. but the attacking trio in my opinion is rotated a bit too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edetarod 2,155 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 It is a shame there isnt a middle ground amongst our fans. People either defend Jose at all costs or they attack and blame him for all our problems!It doesnt work like that.Firstly, crticizing Mourinho doesnt mean you dont like Chelsea, just like it doesnt mean you love Chelsea if you defend Mourinho. Secondly, he has made mistakes but also some great improvements (which partially explains our rollercoaster season). Thirdly, Jose is still in the begining of a long term project, stop talking about sackin him that it sounds absolutely pathetic. Lastly, he is only our manager and a team is more than its manager, whenever we win or lose its not all because of him.I have just 5+ pages worth reactions and I almosted cried (or laughed, I couldnt decide). The posts complaining about him are shite, the posts complaining about others complaining are shite and so on, it is all shite (including this own post).It is not hard to see why the best members have left. There arent enough intelligent people who know about football anymore and the ones who do cant have a civilized debated whenever someone disagrees with them...what are you talking about, i'm still here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidzeret 2,257 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Cahill is a good shout as well, nowhere near where he should be staying to be in position to cover for IvanovicYea..and also they were all waiting for De Bruyne to come on.Silly lapse of concentration. If it hadn't for that, we'd have got away with such a dismal performance.Also Cahill could have slid in before Salah took the shot. Shoddy defending from both Branna and Cahil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbara 15,149 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 It is a shame there isnt a middle ground amongst our fans. People either defend Jose at all costs or they attack and blame him for all our problems!It doesnt work like that.Firstly, crticizing Mourinho doesnt mean you dont like Chelsea, just like it doesnt mean you love Chelsea if you defend Mourinho. Secondly, he has made mistakes but also some great improvements (which partially explains our rollercoaster season). Thirdly, Jose is still in the begining of a long term project, stop talking about sackin him that it sounds absolutely pathetic. Lastly, he is only our manager and a team is more than its manager, whenever we win or lose its not all because of him.I have just 5+ pages worth reactions and I almosted cried (or laughed, I couldnt decide). The posts complaining about him are shite, the posts complaining about others complaining are shite and so on, it is all shite (including this own post).It is not hard to see why the best members have left. There arent enough intelligent people who know about football anymore and the ones who do cant have a civilized debated whenever someone disagrees with them...you forgot the worst (imo). The never ending comparisons with previous managers when the only between both Jose's spells that did a decent job was Ancelotti but still you see people proclaiming di Matteo's and Benitez's tactics as if we were Bayern under them. That goes hand to hand with the list of guys to replace Mourinho... that's what's annoying imo. Some people are already talking about sacking him... after a few months. That said, he was terrible with the team selection against Basel. I'd rate him a 4 out of 10 because even though the problem was that the players didn't turn up, they were damn tired. When José realized that 1) he should have made more changes, especially when he admits he saw his team was tired from the first minute; 2) shouldn't have played all of them if he could say so early they were tired.It comes back to his decisions and I get anyone who moans about it because it was a pathetic display, I don't expect people to react positively or even neutrally to that. It's the implication that his predecessors did better (they didn't) and the willingness to sack him already that is He won't leave so Laudrup, Guardiola or Klopp can come... We don't even have players with the profile some of those managers like (not Klopp and definitely not Guardiola). Some players (very few, like 2-3) fit each of those managers' profile and still they're supposed to come because they're the ones that would make Chelsea invincible playing the sexiest football out there. Okay then... zolayes, kellzfresh, Tomo and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Just had a look on statto with our results between 04/05 and 09/10 and fuck me the consistency we had was insane, especially as a defensive unit.We use to go on winning run's, have a bad result then go on another winning run. Clean sheets were picked up like clockwork aswell. Conceding goal's back then were rare and losing games even more so, we were so difficult to beat it was ridiculous, only 12 league defeats in four season's was stupid. Injuries robbed us in 2007 and 2008, we would have probably been looking at 5 titles out of 6 if we got the rub of the green in the treatment table. Hopefully in time Jose can build something similar to that again, i miss the days we were a solid defensive unit, forget the so called "pretty football", going into games knowing one goal was usually enough was amazing. kellzfresh, iceboy and pHaRaOn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChelseasMessiah 304 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 Mourinho has to give himself a slap and snap out of his reverie. Either that or he'll be walking the plank in no time, Lampard to follow suit immediately after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 The person to blame for an unbalanced squad and for giving long term contracts to players not good enough is down to Michael Emenalo ,lets be honest our transfer policy has been dreadful of late we have not signed greats like Lampard,Drogba,Makelele,Essien,Robben,Carvalho etc for a while now and this squad is Ememalo's more than anyones as mananger after manager was undermined by the club while signings were seemingly made at board meetings . How can a man whose managerial experience amounts to girls football in America put a squad together. Is Chelsea coach Michael Emenalo any good? Better ask the girls... Michael Emenalo's rapid promotion to the post of Carlo Ancelotti's assistant at Chelsea came as a surprise but the Nigerian's limited coaching experience may be ideally suited to the Premier League's diva-studded world of tantrums and tiaras.Image 1 of 2Girl power: Michael Emenalo led Tucson Soccer Academy's U12's to the final of the Arizona State Cup By Rory Smith7:45AM GMT 23 Nov 2010Comment After all, the last time he took to the training field Emenalo was in charge of a group of 11-year-old girls.Emenalo, 45, was taken to Stamford Bridge as chief scout in 2007 by the then-manager, Avram Grant, straight from the Tucson Soccer Academy in Arizona, where he had been in charge of the '96 Girls side – the school's under-12s – for little more than a year.Even that seemed a strange appointment for a man who had enjoyed a successful, if hardly glittering, professional playing career, which peaked with his inclusion in Nigeria's squad for the 1994 World Cup. If his club employers were rather less distinguished – he had spells in the United States, Belgium and Germany, as well as a brief stint at Notts County, before retiring in 2000 after two years at Maccabi Tel Aviv, then coached by Grant – his coaching CV was even less impressive.Though the current West Ham manager offered him a post in Tel Aviv after retiring, Emenalo's only previous bib-and-cone based experience was a year as a volunteer coach at Virginia Tech university in Blacksburg."Michael arrived in Tucson because it was his wife's [Erin Fahey, also a coach] home own," said Charlie Kendrick, a colleague at Tucson academy. "As soon as we heard people of their experience at such high levels were around, we took the opportunity to have them work with our kids. We could not miss that chance." Related ArticlesAncelotti's fury at lack of 'control' over Chelsea22 Nov 2010Chelsea's power structure22 Nov 2010It was clearly a task Emenalo relished. In a statement published on the Tucson academy website after his appointment as director of player development, he indicated that he saw his responsibility as "pre-formation training"."It ensures that the player, at a formative age, is presented with the right soccer information and training before bad habits, and inexperienced coaching set in," he said. "It is our collective experience that a young player cannot excel in soccer unless he/she can completely master and dominate the ball."To gain that mastery, it is crucial to start early. It is also our intention to recreate the 'street soccer' credential by providing a safe, fun and culturally relevant environment that encourages more spontaneity and freedom of expression with the ball."Such a philosophy may come too late to turn John Terry into Ronaldinho, though the former England captain and his team-mates would do well to note that Emenalo's methods bear fruit, as proved by the Tucson academy side who came under his wing.That under-12s side finished the 2007-08 campaign – under the guidance of Emenalo's replacement, Charlie MacCabe – as runners-up in the Arizona State Cup. Little wonder Emenalo is remembered as fondly in Tucson as he is at Boston University, where he played as a student and is included in the Hall of Fame."We do not really have a soccer culture in America," said Kendrick. "So maybe people at the time did not realise how lucky they were to have someone of his calibre working with their children."Maybe now they see that he has got such a big job, they will. Those of us who worked with him are all rooting for him. If anyone deserves success, it's Michael." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 The person to blame for an unbalanced squad and for giving long term contracts to players not good enough is down to Michael Emenalo ,lets be honest our transfer policy has been dreadful of late we have not signed greats like Lampard,Drogba,Makelele,Essien,Robben,Carvalho etc for a while now and this squad is Ememalo's more than anyones as mananger after manager was undermined by the club while signings were seemingly made at board meetings . How can a man whose managerial experience amounts to girls football in America put a squad together. Is Chelsea coach Michael Emenalo any good? Better ask the girls... Michael Emenalo's rapid promotion to the post of Carlo Ancelotti's assistant at Chelsea came as a surprise but the Nigerian's limited coaching experience may be ideally suited to the Premier League's diva-studded world of tantrums and tiaras.Image 1 of 2Girl power: Michael Emenalo led Tucson Soccer Academy's U12's to the final of the Arizona State Cup By Rory Smith7:45AM GMT 23 Nov 2010Comment After all, the last time he took to the training field Emenalo was in charge of a group of 11-year-old girls.Emenalo, 45, was taken to Stamford Bridge as chief scout in 2007 by the then-manager, Avram Grant, straight from the Tucson Soccer Academy in Arizona, where he had been in charge of the '96 Girls side – the school's under-12s – for little more than a year.Even that seemed a strange appointment for a man who had enjoyed a successful, if hardly glittering, professional playing career, which peaked with his inclusion in Nigeria's squad for the 1994 World Cup. If his club employers were rather less distinguished – he had spells in the United States, Belgium and Germany, as well as a brief stint at Notts County, before retiring in 2000 after two years at Maccabi Tel Aviv, then coached by Grant – his coaching CV was even less impressive.Though the current West Ham manager offered him a post in Tel Aviv after retiring, Emenalo's only previous bib-and-cone based experience was a year as a volunteer coach at Virginia Tech university in Blacksburg."Michael arrived in Tucson because it was his wife's [Erin Fahey, also a coach] home own," said Charlie Kendrick, a colleague at Tucson academy. "As soon as we heard people of their experience at such high levels were around, we took the opportunity to have them work with our kids. We could not miss that chance."Related ArticlesAncelotti's fury at lack of 'control' over Chelsea22 Nov 2010Chelsea's power structure22 Nov 2010It was clearly a task Emenalo relished. In a statement published on the Tucson academy website after his appointment as director of player development, he indicated that he saw his responsibility as "pre-formation training"."It ensures that the player, at a formative age, is presented with the right soccer information and training before bad habits, and inexperienced coaching set in," he said. "It is our collective experience that a young player cannot excel in soccer unless he/she can completely master and dominate the ball."To gain that mastery, it is crucial to start early. It is also our intention to recreate the 'street soccer' credential by providing a safe, fun and culturally relevant environment that encourages more spontaneity and freedom of expression with the ball."Such a philosophy may come too late to turn John Terry into Ronaldinho, though the former England captain and his team-mates would do well to note that Emenalo's methods bear fruit, as proved by the Tucson academy side who came under his wing.That under-12s side finished the 2007-08 campaign – under the guidance of Emenalo's replacement, Charlie MacCabe – as runners-up in the Arizona State Cup. Little wonder Emenalo is remembered as fondly in Tucson as he is at Boston University, where he played as a student and is included in the Hall of Fame."We do not really have a soccer culture in America," said Kendrick. "So maybe people at the time did not realise how lucky they were to have someone of his calibre working with their children."Maybe now they see that he has got such a big job, they will. Those of us who worked with him are all rooting for him. If anyone deserves success, it's Michael." WTF Stingray, Henrique and Leif 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stingray 9,441 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 (edited) The person to blame for an unbalanced squad and for giving long term contracts to players not good enough is down to Michael Emenalo ,lets be honest our transfer policy has been dreadful of late we have not signed greats like Lampard,Drogba,Makelele,Essien,Robben,Carvalho etc for a while now and this squad is Ememalo's more than anyones as mananger after manager was undermined by the club while signings were seemingly made at board meetings . How can a man whose managerial experience amounts to girls football in America put a squad together.Is Chelsea coach Michael Emenalo any good? Better ask the girls...Michael Emenalo's rapid promotion to the post of Carlo Ancelotti's assistant at Chelsea came as a surprise but the Nigerian's limited coaching experience may be ideally suited to the Premier League's diva-studded world of tantrums and tiaras.Image 1 of 2Girl power: Michael Emenalo led Tucson Soccer Academy's U12's to the final of the Arizona State CupBy Rory Smith7:45AM GMT 23 Nov 2010CommentAfter all, the last time he took to the training field Emenalo was in charge of a group of 11-year-old girls.Emenalo, 45, was taken to Stamford Bridge as chief scout in 2007 by the then-manager, Avram Grant, straight from the Tucson Soccer Academy in Arizona, where he had been in charge of the '96 Girls side â the school's under-12s â for little more than a year.Even that seemed a strange appointment for a man who had enjoyed a successful, if hardly glittering, professional playing career, which peaked with his inclusion in Nigeria's squad for the 1994 World Cup. If his club employers were rather less distinguished â he had spells in the United States, Belgium and Germany, as well as a brief stint at Notts County, before retiring in 2000 after two years at Maccabi Tel Aviv, then coached by Grant â his coaching CV was even less impressive.Though the current West Ham manager offered him a post in Tel Aviv after retiring, Emenalo's only previous bib-and-cone based experience was a year as a volunteer coach at Virginia Tech university in Blacksburg."Michael arrived in Tucson because it was his wife's [Erin Fahey, also a coach] home own," said Charlie Kendrick, a colleague at Tucson academy. "As soon as we heard people of their experience at such high levels were around, we took the opportunity to have them work with our kids. We could not miss that chance."Related ArticlesAncelotti's fury at lack of 'control' over Chelsea22 Nov 2010Chelsea's power structure22 Nov 2010It was clearly a task Emenalo relished. In a statement published on the Tucson academy website after his appointment as director of player development, he indicated that he saw his responsibility as "pre-formation training"."It ensures that the player, at a formative age, is presented with the right soccer information and training before bad habits, and inexperienced coaching set in," he said. "It is our collective experience that a young player cannot excel in soccer unless he/she can completely master and dominate the ball."To gain that mastery, it is crucial to start early. It is also our intention to recreate the 'street soccer' credential by providing a safe, fun and culturally relevant environment that encourages more spontaneity and freedom of expression with the ball."Such a philosophy may come too late to turn John Terry into Ronaldinho, though the former England captain and his team-mates would do well to note that Emenalo's methods bear fruit, as proved by the Tucson academy side who came under his wing.That under-12s side finished the 2007-08 campaign â under the guidance of Emenalo's replacement, Charlie MacCabe â as runners-up in the Arizona State Cup. Little wonder Emenalo is remembered as fondly in Tucson as he is at Boston University, where he played as a student and is included in the Hall of Fame."We do not really have a soccer culture in America," said Kendrick. "So maybe people at the time did not realise how lucky they were to have someone of his calibre working with their children."Maybe now they see that he has got such a big job, they will. Those of us who worked with him are all rooting for him. If anyone deserves success, it's Michael." What a post Phil, Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Edited November 29, 2013 by CHOULO19 Picture was a bit over the top. Leif 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Rom2013 446 Posted November 29, 2013 Popular Post! Share Posted November 29, 2013 My favourite game of Benitez era was the 1-0 against Corinthians, it was really a great performance.We are already in the game number 12 I don't understand why that image references just the 11 first matches...There is one thing that speaks for itself, you can discuss about tactics, about players, about what you want, but: Porto (2002–2004)Primeira Liga (2): 2002–03, 2003–04Taça de Portugal (1): 2002–03Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira (1): 2003UEFA Champions League (1): 2003–04UEFA Cup (1): 2002–03 Chelsea (2004–2007)Premier League (2): 2004–05, 2005–06FA Cup (1): 2006–07Football League Cup (2): 2004–05, 2006–07FA Community Shield (1): 2005 Internazionale (2008–2010)Serie A (2): 2008–09, 2009–10Coppa Italia (1): 2009–10Supercoppa Italiana (1): 2008UEFA Champions League (1): 2009–10 Real Madrid (2010–2013)La Liga (1): 2011–12Copa del Rey (1): 2010–11Supercopa de España (1): 2012Mourinho will be the best coach in the history of football and he is the best coach in the history of this club. He knows a lot more than you, the players, Abramovich. There is only one institution in the world with similar wins in the last 10/11 years: FCBarcelona.If you want to compare Mourinho with any coach Chelsea had you don't know anything about football.The day Mourinho leaves CHelsea he will go PSG, or he will return to Madrid or Milan, he can coach any club in the world and win.If you want to win every game with kids with 21 y/o that's a little dificult. And even more if you want to beat the European Champions or Real Madrid.In the last game we were already in the last 16. The league is much more important right now. Phil Driver, pHaRaOn, kellzfresh and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Driver 503 Posted November 29, 2013 Share Posted November 29, 2013 No problem gald to educate you foreigners about what is happening at the club,if you need a translation ,online is very easy access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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