The Mourinho Thread

[Kieran. 6,317]

Have to give him the rest of the season IMO

[Stats 7,230]

But who would replace them?

Baba is an unknown and RLC is not an option.

If we had replacements I would understand.

He got rid of all our suitable replacements. Mourinho brought this on himself.

[zolayes 14,489]

The "crisis" started during the summer when the board failed to bring our targets and we smelt that something is not going bad. I would give him more time, he clearly wants to stay for a long time. We have sacked too many managers before and the image was not good. Players are letting him down, they are not performing. I think international brakes came in good time for us. Let's take a break.

The "crisis" started during the summer when the board failed to bring our targets and we smelt that something is not going bad. I would give him more time, he clearly wants to stay for a long time. We have sacked too many managers before and the image was not good. Players are letting him down, they are not performing. I think international brakes came in good time for us. Let's take a break.

When we win Jose takes the credit ,, when we lose its the players ,, the refs ,, the board ,, the FA and of course WOMEN not to mention climate change

[Muzchap 8,966]

I really hope Jose comes out swinging with fire and aggression next game. We win 8-0. Ivan cheers from the bench and RLC assists all 8.

Then again.. Pigs do not fly!

They might do if David Cameron smuggles them on-board his private jet

[LAB 1,030]

The difficulties didn't just show up out of nowhere. They were created by the Special One.

Like i said, not entirely his fault. Ask the board please where were they doing their vacation in the summer.

Technically speaking, isn't this his second chance? Considering he has been sacked before.

Technically yes but the point is that i am trying to be melodramatic and you sir are getting in the way!!!

Well no, my point is that it seems wrong and knee-jerk reaction to me to quickly "abandon ship" for the second time with him as soon as something goes wrong. We have stability issues as a club too and it's not going to do us any more good to have some other manager (who?) in the middle of the October. What more will the new guy do? Make Ivanovic good again and Fabregas made of steel?

[Billy. 2,742]

He got rid of all our suitable replacements. Mourinho brought this on himself.

Good point. Makes you think if he had had the patience with players like De Bryune, Mata etc as he does with Ivanovic, Fabregas and co we might be sitting pretty at the top again

[zolayes 14,489]

Like i said, not entirely his fault. Ask the board please where were they doing their vacation in the summer.

Technically yes but the point is that i am trying to be melodramatic and you sir are getting in the way!!!

Well no, my point is that it seems wrong and knee-jerk reaction to me to quickly "abandon ship" for the second time with him as soon as something goes wrong. We have stability issues as a club too and it's not going to do us any more good to have some other manager (who?) in the middle of the October. What more will the new guy do? Make Ivanovic good again and Fabregas made of steel?

the new guy might DUMP brana get Kalas and other loanees back and give them their chance ..

[DYC. 7,542]

FAir enough, obviously others including yourself will have different perspectives to me but for me that run in 10-11 between Sunderland 0-3 and Fulham 0-0 is the worst run we have been on in the Roman era, despite this shit storm right now I still believe our squad is young enough to recover (whether that's with Jose or not remains to be seen), but that season we had an ageing squad and I honestly thought we were heading down for some time, I think we would have if it werent for Munich, that allowed us to sign Eden and slowly recover culminating in last season's title.

Wins against Walsall and Maccabi are nice for the stats at the end of the season but that's awful opposition. That doesn't count. And a good bit of fortune for us in the win against WBA and the comeback against Newcastle tbh.

Absolutely shambolic performances bar the game against Arsenal. That was a decent performance. 21 goals conceded in 12 games including the Supercup (I seriously dislike the name Community Shield, it's terrible). Every time the opposition attacks they look like scoring. Offensively the team is practically dead, relying on (fortunate) set-pieces to get goals. Not to mention wonder strikes from Matic and Ramires. And practically everyone except for Begovic and Azpilicueta is out of form or unrecognisable.

Edit: Teams no longer fear a visit to Stamford Bridge. Aint that something?

No, this is without a doubt the worst run of form imo. Luckily, I don't feel pain or sadness but a numbness and I can laugh about the situation. I'm just waiting for things to get back to normal. But maybe it won't.

[Muzchap 8,966]

When we win Jose takes the credit ,, when we lose its the players ,, the refs ,, the board ,, the FA and of course WOMEN not to mention climate change

Lol spot-on

Brand Jose thinks he is bigger than Brand Chelsea... The self appointed Messiah has been caught out - hiding behind the Wizard of Oz curtain is a scared little man...

I have always supported Jose - but he's lost my respect and support now. ALL he had to do to keep it was take SOME critiscism on the chin, like a man and get through it - but his pathetic attempts at deflection and throwing players under the bus (apt terminology for us) has shown him in a terrible light. I don't doubt the dressing room is against him and once you have lost that it's only a matter of time.

I fully expect to read tomorrow that he is gone

[Blue Armour 4,759]

But that's just pathetic from them, isn't it? It's like we have gone back in time and are experiencing the player power situation again, where the players decide when to turn up and when not to just so they can get the club to sack the manager.

Probably the one reason I would take for not sacking the manager right now...They don't look like they have the guts to turn things if we bring on an interim.

[blues.bridge 343]

I do not understand how many still believe in mou for the stability of the club !

With him , put on your head , stability if not ever reach ! because in addition to the purely sporting failure is a person of shit , he does not think twice about blaming someone , judging anybody rather than save and admit the evidence !

How you want to achieve stability with a person who lives for the controversy and to destabilize ? a man who has no problem criticizing all its employees for not to take him blame ? How will you achieve " stability " under the leadership of such a person like that ?

[Reddish-Blue 2,701]

Have to give him the rest of the season IMO

I don't see the point in giving him the rest of the season...the players seem to be getting worse game after game

I really thought the Arsenal result would kick start our season, but we haven't won any games since then...and looking at our upcoming fixtures, I'm kind of worried

[zolayes 14,489]

off now until the next game .. tomorrow the Staff will insult us as fickle fans . I watch Toon fans walk out after 60 minutes today . Did I think they were fake fans ,, NO their team didnt try

thats what Im seeing from ours as well //

[Miki-Liki 405]

Mourinho is the greatest manager in the world, and if we can't achieve stability with him, then we will never achieve stability.

Trying to achieve stability with Mourinho is like trying to have safe sex with a broken condom.

[kobematabryant 400]

I don't see the point in giving him the rest of the season...the players seem to be getting worse game after game

I really thought the Arsenal result would kick start our season, but we haven't won any games since then...and looking at our upcoming fixtures, I'm kind of worried

There are no good managers to replace him with, if he gets sacked now. The best possible manager we could get now is Capello.

[Spike 12,049]

TBH (to be honest) the players I don't particularly care for are:

Ivanovic

Mikel

Ramires

Falcao

Remy

Wilian

That is just me though.

On another personal note, the type of approach to the game I like is the approach made by Arsenal from about 98-03. Win the ball, pass up the field the in three or four passes, shoot. Some of you may remember Henry stating that the moment Viera (or anyone) won the ball, they would immediately think of how they can get the ball up to an attacking player, wether it be Anelka, Henry, Pires or Ljungberg. There was no ball retention nonsense, they attacked the moment they had possession. No player takes responsibility in this team, they are passive jackasses.

That is just the style I like. Kinda like how West Ham play right now (yes that bloody team).

[zolayes 14,489]

Trying to achieve stability with Mourinho is like trying to have safe sex with a broken condom.

types of condom ..a welsh condom .. one with a leak (leek) in it

a scottish condom one with a leak but a plaster over the leak

an Irish condom one with a leak and a plaster but not covering the leak.

so many racist steroetypes

but think of our defence in the same way ,,,

[Muzchap 8,966]

TBH (to be honest) the players I don't particularly care for are:

Ivanovic

Mikel

Ramires

Falcao

Remy

Wilian

That is just me though.

On another personal note, the type of approach to the game I like is the approach made by Arsenal from about 98-03. Win the ball, pass up the field the in three or four passes, shoot. Some of you may remember Henry stating that the moment Viera (or anyone) won the ball, they would immediately think of how they can get the ball up to an attacking player, wether it be Anelka, Henry, Pires or Ljungberg. There was no ball retention nonsense, they attacked the moment they had possession. No player takes responsibility in this team, they are passive jackasses.

That is just the style I like. Kinda like how West Ham play right now (yes that bloody team).

To be fair that was always UTD's mantra too and why I respect Ferguson so much! Never say die attitude.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

TBH (to be honest) the players I don't particularly care for are:

Ivanovic

Mikel

Ramires

Falcao

Remy

Wilian

That is just me though.

On another personal note, the type of approach to the game I like is the approach made by Arsenal from about 98-03. Win the ball, pass up the field the in three or four passes, shoot. Some of you may remember Henry stating that the moment Viera (or anyone) won the ball, they would immediately think of how they can get the ball up to an attacking player, wether it be Anelka, Henry, Pires or Ljungberg. There was no ball retention nonsense, they attacked the moment they had possession. No player takes responsibility in this team, they are passive jackasses.

That is just the style I like. Kinda like how West Ham play right now (yes that bloody team).

And that team did nothing in Europe & could never win back to back League titles. Counter attacking teams have a short shelf life.

[Spike 12,049]

To be fair that was always UTD's mantra too and why I respect Ferguson so much! Never say die attitude.

Wenger's approach to the game changed. I think he foresaw a change in football with the 4-4-2 dying out, especially since Mourinho came in and destroyed the league. He adapted but it wasn't that successful. His team played amazing football at times but lacked the extra funds to push him teams to the limit. If the new stadium wasn't built and the funds were given to the first team, I fully believe that with the youth Wenger had, he would have built a dynasty with some of the extra players he could have brought in.

Now. Chelsea is in this same boat as Wenger and Arsenal in 2004. Mourinho tactics from that time have passed and are now a relic of that era. He needs to adapt to the changing environment. Football comes in cycles, when the 4-4-2 went out, defensive tactics came in. When the defensive mindset went out, tiki-taka replaced it. Now that tiki-taka is dying a new style is coming back in. It almost seems the old 4-4-2 is coming back into vogue.