David Luiz

[The only place to be 11,313]

Or, Luiz had seen Ross Barkley's goal vs Norwich and felt it was important to not let him a free shot at goal. He never had any intention to win the ball.

Well it's a good thing he closed him down and Ross Barkley wasn't able to get a shot off from 20 yards through traffic against one of the best keepers around, with players closing him down from the sides.

Thank the lord Ross Barkley didn't score against us.

[happy_juan 64]

Well it's a good thing he closed him down and Ross Barkley wasn't able to get a shot off from 20 yards through traffic against one of the best keepers around, with players closing him down from the sides.

Thank the lord Ross Barkley didn't score against us.

Maybe if you see the goal again, you will notice that there was no other blue shirt closing down Barkley. Anyhow, blaming Luiz had always been an easy cop-out for commentators, so there you go.

[English Freak 456]

When Luiz has a poor game, this thread is almost as bad as the Mikel thread.

[TrippingStep 336]

It makes me laugh to see that Luiz Mata Hazard under Mourinho are bad, Azpi not playing, Ramires sitting very deep too often and not with his best asset, his runs from deep while they were essential with Benitez and performing well.

[Special Juan 27,421]

And what makes me laugh is how quick people are to trying and hide his mistakes instead of saying what he did was complete and utter awful.

The fact of the matter is there was a number of players to blame, and Luiz being one of them, this is the Luiz thread and he is topic of discussion.

Jose will not tolerate amateurish mistakes, this goes for anyone, or they will be dropped...that simple.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Maybe if you see the goal again, you will notice that there was no other blue shirt closing down Barkley. Anyhow, blaming Luiz had always been an easy cop-out for commentators, so there you go.

Actually I think Ramires was more to blame, but Luiz's actions led to us being overloaded in defence.

Oh, and you're wrong. When Barkley receives the ball, Schurrle is about 3 yards to his left and closing and when he shifts it right then Rami is about 4 yards in front.

Another problem is that David Luiz continues to watch the ball when it's shifted right and is jogging back into defence. He's not even jogging back to the right position, but he isn't to know that because he hasn't looked towards Jelavic or Naismith since coming out of defence.

But yeah, it's easy for commentators to say stuff because they've watched the game. You should try it.

[English Freak 456]

And what makes me laugh is how quick people are to trying and hide his mistakes instead of saying what he did was complete and utter awful.

The fact of the matter is there was a number of players to blame, and Luiz being one of them, this is the Luiz thread and he is topic of discussion.

Jose will not tolerate amateurish mistakes, this goes for anyone, or they will be dropped...that simple.

It doesn't really matter if he's dropped...Cahill's just as clueless as Luiz at times.

[The Skipper 20,593]

And what makes me laugh is how quick people are to trying and hide his mistakes instead of saying what he did was complete and utter awful.

The fact of the matter is there was a number of players to blame, and Luiz being one of them, this is the Luiz thread and he is topic of discussion.

Jose will not tolerate amateurish mistakes, this goes for anyone, or they will be dropped...that simple.

No one is saying Luiz didn't make a mistake though, don't get it twisted. It's just that some are saying he's the main culprit for the goal which I disagree with.

[zolayes 14,489]

No one is saying Luiz didn't make a mistake though, don't get it twisted. It's just that some are saying he's the main culprit for the goal which I disagree with.

Henrique summed it perfectly ,,it was collective mistakes ,,,IMO there were at least 4 defenders at fault

[Special Juan 27,421]

No one is saying Luiz didn't make a mistake though, don't get it twisted. It's just that some are saying he's the main culprit for the goal which I disagree with.

Which is exactly what I have said in both match thread and in here. The said players mentioned are all as culpable as each other, proper heads gone moment.

One, along with shit finishing that cost us the game.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Maybe if you see the goal again, you will notice that there was no other blue shirt closing down Barkley. Anyhow, blaming Luiz had always been an easy cop-out for commentators, so there you go.

I don't want to get involved in placing the blames because the goal has already been over analyzed, but Schurrle had Barkley covered. This is a pic from the article a member here wrote to analyze the goal:

[happy_juan 64]

I don't want to get involved in placing the blames because the goal has already been over analyzed, but Schurrle had Barkley covered. This is a pic from the article a member here wrote to analyze the goal:

That is why it is always advised to look at videos and not screen shots in isolation

[hjperdeath 2,226]

That is why it is always advised to look at videos and not screen shots in isolation

I'm the member who posted it , and I did look up at it . I'm not really sure what the argument is about but there was zero need for Luiz to jump on and press when Schurrle is nearby and yes I watched the game 3-4 times .

[robsblubot 3,498]

That is why it is always advised to look at videos and not screen shots in isolation

That's from Jamie Redknapp's column isn't it?

Just go by the comment section and read them all, especially the highly rated ones. Yes, it was bad positioning on his part, so what?! The defensive line failed including Cech. With Cole, JT, and Iva, they could've marked individually, but remained zonal. So, yes, David was to blame IMO, but blaming him alone for the goal is absolutely ridiculous as the entire defense failed to handle that ball.

I wonder if David gets a free pass to move up especially when Mikel plays. So, the reasoning might be that Mikel would cover for him. I mention this because his forward runs seem to bother people for some strange reason. Ironically, he rarely (as in never) makes them when playing for Brazil.

If we are going to lose every game in which we concede a goal when playing away from home, this is going to be a very very long season.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

That is why it is always advised to look at videos and not screen shots in isolation

I did watch the video. He just needlessly took a couple of steps forward and left JT and Iva out numbered. Granted that others made mistakes in the goal as well.

[Henrique 9,133]

What happened in the goal: Ramires failed to mark an Everton player who received the ball. Luiz went to mark him and let Ivanovic to mark 2 players. It was a typical collective mistake, I dont know why Luiz is an easy target for the idiots.

[robsblubot 3,498]

Also, we fans, in general, have this strange reasoning that when we swap players we gain the replacement's virtues without his shortcomings. It's as if we purposely forget the weakness of the player who (in our opinion) should've played TM. Perhaps it's just a case of "the grass is always greener..."

My point being that when Cahill is on, his weaknesses are exploitable, tracking back, lack of mobility and his lesser contribution in attack (compared to David). It's the same when David plays, we have to handle -- as a team -- his shortcomings. That's called teamwork.

Terry and Cahill are the same player; they have the same virtues as well as shortcomings. They are both very good in the air, composed, but lack agility and mobility. The team becomes more stretched when they play because they don't push forward with the other lines. David and either one of them makes a perfect pairing.

[The_Flash 1,144]

God it happens, all the time, its not the end of the world. We should have scored about five in that game and it wouldnt matter. WE NEED GOALS FROM SOMEWHERE.

I was very hopeful this year, but we don't seem to be carrying on as we left off last year. Come on guys, lets do better.