The English Football Thread

[Kojo 4,676]

Well that depends on your definition of world class. There is no "definition" of world class that goes for everybody. I just meant he's miles ahead of the other Sunderland players and most players of the bottom teams. And what does Juve have to do with anything? He never fit Conte's system and couldn't get a game with them.

You just meant?

So you want to go back to the basics then? Go ahead go and tell me that there is no definition for anything, that I can say a player is good when really that's unfair because someone can say he's in the average category it's unfair to define him as good.

It's getting ridiculous now, you can't even have a good debate with you, you always take the big steps away from the actual argument. But yeah you 'just' meant you weren't stating anything, you never do that do you, you never make bold statements just to wind people up and then state the obvious when people quote you. But this is a forum and we all talk in typical banter/catshit sense, if you say someones world class then you mean he is world class, that means world beater, it does actually have a meaning. I fail to see how this player is a world beater when he hasn't shown that, he doesn't play in a top class team and consistently puts in top class performances, if he doesn't do that then it is wrong to define that player as world class, no matter how 20 dimensional you want to get on me.

What does Juve have to do with anything? Oh I don't know they let this so called world class player go, what sort of team does that?

[Kojo 4,676]

Giacherrini isnt world-class...

We know, I'm just giving Choulo the argument he so desperately wants.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Well that depends on your definition of world class. There is no "definition" of world class that goes for everybody. I just meant he's miles ahead of the other Sunderland players and most players of the bottom teams. And what does Juve have to do with anything? He never fit Conte's system and couldn't get a game with them.

So your definition of world-class is being 'miles ahead' of Lee Cattermole, John O'Shea, Philip Bardsley et al??

[CHOULO19 24,332]

You just meant?

So you want to go back to the basics then? Go ahead go and tell me that there is no definition for anything, that I can say a player is good when really that's unfair because someone can say he's in the average category it's unfair to define him as good.

It's getting ridiculous now, you can't even have a good debate with you, you always take the big steps away from the actual argument. But yeah you 'just' meant you weren't stating anything, you never do that do you, you never make bold statements just to wind people up and then state the obvious when people quote you. But this is a forum and we all talk in typical banter/catshit sense, if you say someones world class then you mean he is world class, that means world beater, it does actually have a meaning. I fail to see how this player is a world beater when he hasn't shown that, he doesn't play in a top class team and consistently puts in top class performances, if he doesn't do that then it is wrong to define that player as world class, no matter how 20 dimensional you want to get on me.

What does Juve have to do with anything? Oh I don't know they let this so called world class player go, what sort of team does that?

Sheesh, calm down!

Fine, I was wrong, he's not world class, happy?

[Jase 43,479]

Roy Keane reacting to Fergie's comments on him in his new book..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCp1LupQS3M

[The_Flash 1,144]

Roy Keane reacting to Fergie's comments on him in his new book..

I think it's fairly comical Keane saying it's unnessary to criticise when he has spent almost a decade slagging people off particularly Fergie and Utd, about 'how bad he was treated' he was made Captain when he was such a mediocre player and constantly getting in fights and sent off, really not a fan of Keane.

[Magic Lamps 11,668]

Still Fergie wrote an awful lot of BS in that book.

[Pizy 18,418]

So now not only does Arsenal's ludicrously easy fixture list continue with them playing by far the worst side in the Prem in Palace this weekend, but they'll now be playing a side with no manager and players who will have probably given up.

*sigh*

My hatred for that club knows no bounds.

[Special Juan 27,439]

Yeah Holloway gone.

[Kojo 4,676]

So now not only does Arsenal's ludicrously easy fixture list continue with them playing by far the worst side in the Prem in Palace this weekend, but they'll now be playing a side with no manager and players who will have probably given up.

*sigh*

My hatred for that club knows no bounds.

Pointless getting angry about it, because they will keep winning games till about December.

Wouldn't surprise me if they are number one by December anyway still, however they will not win the league, not a chance. They will finish 4th in the league mark my words, they will drop. Arsenal haven't proven how consistent they can be, they are having flashy performances, next month they wills scrape results whilst playing badly because it will be hard for them but they will manage to get the points out of the hard games.

But when the F.A Cup and Champions League comes to effect, it's going to be very hard for them and I mean very hard. They don't have the firepower us or City have.

[Pizy 18,418]

Pointless getting angry about it, because they will keep winning games till about December.

Wouldn't surprise me if they are number one by December anyway still, however they will not win the league, not a chance. They will finish 4th in the league mark my words, they will drop. Arsenal haven't proven how consistent they can be, they are having flashy performances, next month they wills scrape results whilst playing badly because it will be hard for them but they will manage to get the points out of the hard games.

But when the F.A Cup and Champions League comes to effect, it's going to be very hard for them and I mean very hard. They don't have the firepower us or City have.

Hope so, mate. Hope so.

[Jype 6,398]

Made a €10 bet at 33/1 this summer that Holloway would be the first manager to leave, too bad Sunderland were so hasty with Paolo Di Canio or I would've got me some extra money.

[The_Flash 1,144]

Made a €10 bet at 33/1 this summer that Holloway would be the first manager to leave, too bad Sunderland were so hasty with Paolo Di Canio or I would've got me some extra money.

Lol, it's a shame, their best player got taken off them and isn't even in the bench for Utd

[Jype 6,398]

Lol, it's a shame, their best player got taken off them and isn't even in the bench for Utd

Another one of Moyes' many shortcomings. Zaha hasn't even made his Premier League debut yet and is rarely on the bench anyway so why wasn't he loaned out? He's a very talented player and he could at least be given a chance because it's not like their other wingers have done anything to justify their place in the team so far this season. Not that I'm complaining though, I absolutely enjoy seeing Manchester United struggle and it might just make some of their fans a little less arrogant.

[The_Flash 1,144]

Another one of Moyes' many shortcomings. Zaha hasn't even made his Premier League debut yet and is rarely on the bench anyway so why wasn't he loaned out? He's a very talented player and he could at least be given a chance because it's not like their other wingers have done anything to justify their place in the team so far this season. Not that I'm complaining though, I absolutely enjoy seeing Manchester United struggle and it might just make some of their fans a little less arrogant.

Totally agree they should have just let him go back to Palace and things might have been different for them

[Strike 7,250]

There is a big(ish) game every weekend now. Arsenal to face Liverpool and United back to back early next month. I think Chelsea or City will be leading once the dust settles. Huge game this weekend

[Pizy 18,418]

Expecting a 5-0 for Arse here. Palace are the worst side in the league.

Another long week of hearing everyone gush about how incredible Arsenal are and how they're title favorites after spanking another terrible side.

[bushman 2,043]

Expecting a 5-0 for Arse here. Palace are the worst side in the league.

Another long week of hearing everyone gush about how incredible Arsenal are and how they're title favorites after spanking another terrible side.

As I have seen Crystal is not as terrible as you posted.

I´d say, they rather played well in their 1st half.