termninja 5,290 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Still with the topic guys. Maicon isnt going to chelsea and thats that, its all for the better too.You can't know that unless you knew someone important at Inter or Maicon or his agent. Sure, I wouldn't say that chances of seeing Maicon in a Chelsea shirt are high, but I also wouldn't say they don't exist.You can complain all you want, and you can state your opinion as long as they are in line with the guidelines. I cannot be proven wrong about maicon being past it, and being relatively crap, as that is fact, i may be proven wrong about him going to chelsea, and if i do then too bad for them.Im done here, ill ignore the notifications, as it is probably going to be replies going in circles.Cheers.Maicon being relatively crap is your opinion, not a fact. He still has bags of experience, his crossing is amazing and tactical positioning is good. Yes, he is past it, like most of the players over 30 years of age, but he is not crap.As crazy as it seems, this time I 100% agree with TMO.People who think Maicon at the age of 30 would be more than happy to sit on the bench with tiny wages compared to what he currently makes at Inter are delusional. It's not like he's already at the point in his career where he goes to a smaller league or takes a smaller role when he's not good enough to play with the big boys anymore.Perhaps, perhaps not. Maybe he wants a change, and if he came here and had some amazing performances, he would get a chance to play more regularly. Get a trophy or two, play in England and slowly continue towards the ending of his career.But anyway, as I don't know him personally, I can't know what's he thinking, so we'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,887 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 If Maicon moved to Real Madrid, The Madrid One would be having a jizzfest over how good Maicon is. Maybe he is past it or maybe he isn't but when Jose was at Inter I remember Maicon being better than any other RB in the world... which was only 3 years ago so he can't be that bad now surely? Just do we need another 31 year old when we are trying to build a younger squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 If Maicon moved to Real Madrid, The Madrid One would be having a jizzfest over how good Maicon is. Maybe he is past it or maybe he isn't but when Jose was at Inter I remember Maicon being better than any other RB in the world... which was only 3 years ago so he can't be that bad now surely? Just do we need another 31 year old when we are trying to build a younger squad?Every top club has a handful of players in their 30's. If Malouda, Benayoun and Ferreira leave as expected we would only be left with Terry, Lampard, Cole and Hilario if my memory serves me right so i think the reduction in squad age has been done pretty well over the last couple of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I dont think maicon there is much chance of maicon coming. I do think he is a good player. Just because you are in your 30's doesn't mean your past it. It would mean that he would lose a lot of value over the coming years, so would have no re-sell value but if he was to help this team to some trophies then it would be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Dont get too excited on maicon guys. The guy is practically 31 years old and is clearly past it. He's been utter garbage for the last two years and now inter want to see this joker out for some money, you would gain nothing from getting maicon, going after debuchy ( the only decision that makes sense) is the right choice.You have to remember to recognize the situation a possible transfer is in, its like buying an old ferrari testarossa that's got the engine shot and has been painted again after getting shot in the frame by injuries,age, and incompetence. Chelsea might be looking a new rb to be a sub but, id rather go after a good rb while the chance is there.Analyze the whole situation.I notice you said "you would gain nothing" ("you" being us, the collective of Chelsea fans) which means you don't consider yourself to be a part of "us", which just makes me wonder why you're on this forum now.So confused. Aren't there Real Madrid forums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Not sure tbh, Still have in my mind the time Gareth Bale ripped him a new arsehole. We'll see how it plays out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Not sure tbh, Still have in my mind the time Gareth Bale ripped him a new arsehole. We'll see how it plays out.Paulo Ferreira kept Bale quiet for a couple of games. Does that mean he's better than Maicon? Nope. It's unfair to use one specific game to judge one player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,395 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Maicon to CHELSEA Want Debuchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FormerRussianSpy 163 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Gareth Bale did make Maicon his bitch in the one match, but the Serie A has plenty of speedy wingers comparable to Bale (not in class but in style of attack) and Maicon has proven himself worthy defending against such. At the reported fee of £8m I can't see how we could go wrong. He can also curve in a cross like nobody's business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Personally, I'm not sure about this transfer. Would rather go for someone younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zinedine Iniesco 172 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 The people with brains will understand No need for me to explain to the incapable to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin_3d 1,140 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 The people with brains will understand No need for me to explain to the incapable to understand. Have you ever heard of get a life????Apparently not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superblue 6,372 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Might be good for both parties. Despite Maicon not being at the level he was perhaps 2-3 seasons ago (I've always rated him higher than Dani Alves - he has a much better end product), even at soon to be 31 he still has a lot of football left in him and still has an abundance of pace and stamina. These Brazilian full backs never seem to lose this no matter how old they get! (Roberto Carlos, Cafu)He is certainly an upgrade on Bosingwa, and offers Chelsea the 'attacking' option at full back, whilst Ivanovic provides the more defensively solid option.You have to believe that if we buy Maicon, Hulk is a must too. The pair would be lethal on the right hand side, given Hulk's preference to cut inside, Maicon would be left with plenty of room to rampage forward.Such a deal gives Chelsea a very good alternative and option at right back for the next 2-3 years, which gives them time to assess their long term options in that position whether that be from the academy or somebody purchased. For Maicon, he is moving to London and to continue playing at the highest level. There is a good growing Brazilian/Portuguese contingent at the club to help him settle in quickly and he knows given the amount of games the club plays every season, he will play at least 25-30 times a season. This gives him plenty of gametime, without burning him out which will likely prolong his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane 2,275 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Paulo Ferreira kept Bale quiet for a couple of games. Does that mean he's better than Maicon? Nope. It's unfair to use one specific game to judge one player.But has he been the same since that game? I think that was the beginning of the downfall for Maicon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Can't judge Maicon only by what happened with him in the last period. When Inter won the UCL, he was by far the best right back in Europe, in my opinion.After that, it wasn't just Maicon's downfall. It was Inter's downfall.Maybe he just needs to change the air.I wouldn't say that he is a great transfer, but he might be what we need. The guy deserves a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDY 1,290 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I'm surprised no one has mentioned Juliano Belletti when comparing the situation. He was in his 30's and provided great cover both at RB and centre midfield. Maicon is without a doubt a better player at this stage in his career than Juliano was at the same time. The more I think about this deal the more it makes sense, his age is perfect to add valuable experience and it won't stifle Kane/Kalas. The only sticking point for me would be his wages.If Maicon performs anywhere near as good as Belletti did I'll be pleased (If the deal happens). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Since Maicon and Debuchy are available for around the same price I would prefer Debuchy. I guess I can't complain about Maicon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stats 7,156 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Might be good for both parties. Despite Maicon not being at the level he was perhaps 2-3 seasons ago (I've always rated him higher than Dani Alves - he has a much better end product), even at soon to be 31 he still has a lot of football left in him and still has an abundance of pace and stamina. These Brazilian full backs never seem to lose this no matter how old they get! (Roberto Carlos, Cafu)He is certainly an upgrade on Bosingwa, and offers Chelsea the 'attacking' option at full back, whilst Ivanovic provides the more defensively solid option.You have to believe that if we buy Maicon, Hulk is a must too. The pair would be lethal on the right hand side, given Hulk's preference to cut inside, Maicon would be left with plenty of room to rampage forward.Such a deal gives Chelsea a very good alternative and option at right back for the next 2-3 years, which gives them time to assess their long term options in that position whether that be from the academy or somebody purchased. For Maicon, he is moving to London and to continue playing at the highest level. There is a good growing Brazilian/Portuguese contingent at the club to help him settle in quickly and he knows given the amount of games the club plays every season, he will play at least 25-30 times a season. This gives him plenty of gametime, without burning him out which will likely prolong his career.Might be good for both parties. Despite Maicon not being at the level he was perhaps 2-3 seasons ago (I've always rated him higher than Dani Alves - he has a much better end product), even at soon to be 31 he still has a lot of football left in him and still has an abundance of pace and stamina. These Brazilian full backs never seem to lose this no matter how old they get! (Roberto Carlos, Cafu)He is certainly an upgrade on Bosingwa, and offers Chelsea the 'attacking' option at full back, whilst Ivanovic provides the more defensively solid option.You have to believe that if we buy Maicon, Hulk is a must too. The pair would be lethal on the right hand side, given Hulk's preference to cut inside, Maicon would be left with plenty of room to rampage forward.Such a deal gives Chelsea a very good alternative and option at right back for the next 2-3 years, which gives them time to assess their long term options in that position whether that be from the academy or somebody purchased. For Maicon, he is moving to London and to continue playing at the highest level. There is a good growing Brazilian/Portuguese contingent at the club to help him settle in quickly and he knows given the amount of games the club plays every season, he will play at least 25-30 times a season. This gives him plenty of gametime, without burning him out which will likely prolong his career.Spot on with that mate. The more days that goes on though, the more pessimistic I am about the deal going to happen. Maicon is a quality player, which kind of RB scores the type of goals he did against Milan last season. I agree fully about the attacking/defensive abilities although Maicon is not that bad defensively but going forward his power and pace will offer a lot. Here is his goal against AC Milan if anyone forgot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Brilliant. From the high's of us being excited by Chelsea signings relatively young AND experienced players to signing 30yo+ players who are past their prime. Deco runs through my mind.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sLOVEnian Blue 74 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 The goal vs Milan was great, but this one is my favourite goal by Maicon ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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