Chelsea Transfers

[OhForAGreavsie 6,090]

4 hours ago, Pizy said:

Very difficult to understand. [Why it's so hard for us to recruit players.]

Just need to accept the truth of the song I've been singing for years. We are not an attractive club to top players. They only choose Chelsea when none of their preferred clubs are interested. If they have options, they will go elsewhere. This negative reputation took time to build and it will take time to dismantle.

[Tomo 21,751]

11 hours ago, DDA said:

100% on board with playing Havertz in the false 9 as a constant but I just hope we don't get to Christmas and it hasn't worked out and our need for a striker is staring us dead in the eyes once again. 

Is it any more of a risk than a number 9 with questionable at best suitability to TT's tactics? Last summer i was cautious about even Haaland for that very reason.

Kai up front facilitates us playing football the way TT prefers which allows for great team performances even when the German is having a poor game in himself (case in point Real away), a new striker that we have to start everygame could fuck up the tactical dynamics again even if he scores the expected amount never mind pulls a Lukaku.

[didi007 69]

3 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Just need to accept the truth of the song I've been singing for years. We are not an attractive club to top players. They only choose Chelsea when none of their preferred clubs are interested. If they have options, they will go elsewhere. This negative reputation took time to build and it will take time to dismantle.

We are with the right coach. TT doesn't have  the same pull or attraction to players as Pep or Klopp. If Ancelotti or Mou were our coach, we wouldn't have this problem 

[Vesper 30,272]

2 hours ago, lucio said:

He looked crap at Monaco. That team was a literal goldmine and we bought the one turd amongst the gold. Our scouting is beyond poor 

absolutely not

this is pure revisionist bollocks

[Tomo 21,751]

6 minutes ago, didi007 said:

We are with the right coach. TT doesn't have  the same pull or attraction to players as Pep or Klopp. If Ancelotti or Mou were our coach, we wouldn't have this problem 

Kaka choose Real Madrid over reuniting with Carlo here, Neymar rejected us under Carlo, Gerrard rejected peak Jose twice, young Torres rejected peak Jose to go and play for a vastly inferior Liverpool, Pogba rejected us with Jose here.

[Blue Armour 4,459]

Sigh. Maybe it's possible that Tuchel wants to assess Colwill and Co before committing funds to a CB., be it Ake or someone good.

Only reason to stumble along without signing at least one before pre-season.

 

[Clockwork 1,794]

25 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Just need to accept the truth of the song I've been singing for years. We are not an attractive club to top players. They only choose Chelsea when none of their preferred clubs are interested. If they have options, they will go elsewhere. This negative reputation took time to build and it will take time to dismantle.

Don’t agree, we get our share of players. We just need to chose more wisely.

Raphinha agreed terms with Barca months before the transfer window even opened. 
 

You can’t always get who you want, but we have enough to assemble a squad that can compete with the best. That is ultimately all you can ask for.

[Vesper 30,272]

2 hours ago, milka said:

We still  have quality options i don't know why we don't have any interest in these guys 🤔

 

 

 

Sane is on €20m (£17m) per year wages

£327K PW

Contract expires: Jun 30, 2025

Plus 1 Year Option

End of summer 2026 he will be 3 and half months away from turning 31yo

Date of birth: Jan 11, 1996

 

[Clockwork 1,794]

Sometime the real winner is when you don’t sign the players. 75m for Raphinha and 90m for De Ligt is an absolute joke. 
 

[Vesper 30,272]

ffs

and ON A FREE

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,385]

4 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Sometime the real winner is when you don’t sign the players. 75m for Raphinha and 90m for De Ligt is an absolute joke. 
 

We are going to look like losers one way or another. Everyone and their dog know we are desperate for players so they will charge heavily. 

[Vesper 30,272]

1 minute ago, Clockwork said:

Sometime the real winner is when you don’t sign the players. 75m for Raphinha and 90m for De Ligt is an absolute joke. 
 

not disgreeing

BUT

at least use the pounds sterling prices, not the euros prices

this is becoming an epidemic here

and vastly inflates their actual cost

no one is dumping 90m quid on De Ligt

that is 107m euros

or around 17m to 27m euros more than he will end up going for

[Vesper 30,272]

assholes!

Unvaxxed Premier League players being snubbed in transfer window

Exclusive: According to a source, 'phone calls stop immediately' when interested clubs learn that a potential new signing is not vaccinated

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2022/07/09/unvaxed-premier-league-players-snubbed-transfer-window/

Top clubs across Europe are reluctant to sign players from the Premier League who have refused the Covid vaccines, as the game braces itself for another potential spike in infection, The Sunday Telegraph understands.

Two of Chelsea’s first team players, Ruben Loftus-Cheek and N’Golo Kante, have both been left out of the club’s pre-season tour to the United States this week, as a consequence, the club said, of “their Covid vaccination status”. The US government’s current rules declare that a Covid vaccination is mandatory for all visitors who are not US nationals.

Anecdotally, the evidence in Europe this summer has been that clubs are not prepared to pursue an interest in any player who has not been vaccinated. In domestic leagues in Italy and France vaccination was made compulsory for players after the rise in infections over the winter although some leeway has been given. Especially in the case of those who were already playing there at the time and had declined the vaccine.

[MoroccanBlue 5,385]

Another step backwards for RLC in a season where he needs to make an impact. 

 

[bigbluewillie 1,930]

3 hours ago, Kong said:

Am not sad about missing out on any 1 from the serie A. Lukakuu was a world beater in that league, trash here. Tomori looked average on his best days here goes over there and looks world class. Alonsos been ok jorgi is torture to watch, Emerson no comment. Bakayoko even looked good on that league.

And don't forget Arbraham

[Clockwork 1,794]

13 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

We are going to look like losers one way or another. Everyone and their dog know we are desperate for players so they will charge heavily. 

Go get koulibaly and plan ahead for summer 2023 recruit other CBs.

worst thing is to get desperate and sign a player that will have long term consequences.

I have nothing against players that do not want to get vaccinated, but they should be facing wage consequences if they are not able to participate due to their vaccination status. 

[didi007 69]

40 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Kaka choose Real Madrid over reuniting with Carlo here, Neymar rejected us under Carlo, Gerrard rejected peak Jose twice, young Torres rejected peak Jose to go and play for a vastly inferior Liverpool, Pogba rejected us with Jose here.

South Americans like playing for Spanish teams. Didnt Pogba play for Mourinho at Man U? Gerrard almost moved to Chelsea under Mou until his life was threatened by Pool supporters. 

[Tomo 21,751]

23 minutes ago, didi007 said:

South Americans like playing for Spanish teams. 

So why are you holding Raphina's preferrence on TT?

24 minutes ago, didi007 said:

Didnt Pogba play for Mourinho at Man U?  

My point exactly.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,823]

 

[Superblue 6,372]

1 hour ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

Just need to accept the truth of the song I've been singing for years. We are not an attractive club to top players. They only choose Chelsea when none of their preferred clubs are interested. If they have options, they will go elsewhere. This negative reputation took time to build and it will take time to dismantle.

The bigger point within this though is we shouldn't even need to go for these big name, 'top' players if our recruitment and planning was efficient through the club because we get burnt time and again when doing so. This is what needs addressing because we'll never establish ourselves to compete for pulling power with Madrid and Barca. United and Liverpool can't even compete with them.

Our best signings during Roman's tenure have been a mixture of either players with the potential to become top players but not currently there, and players maybe at one of the top clubs but looking for a move due to a new challenge, seeking more minutes or more appreciation. Players such as Maka, Ballack, Pedro, Fabregas, Kovacic would fall into this bracket, and hopefully Sterling would too given where City are in comparison to us at present.

But the more important one is locating players early that can be developed in house to become top players. I know even in this current climate, a player only needs to play a few good games and he seems to be worth £30-40m but our recruitment has to improve to be getting players on our radar much earlier. It's only a few years ago we were buying De Bruyne and Courtois from the Belgian league and Salah from the Swiss League. I feel our recruitment drive has moved far away from that now and we wouldn't even bother looking directly into those leagues and we'd much prefer players of that ilk to move to another club first and become more proven (but in doing so become 3 or 4x more expensive).

There is a major reboot needed at the club which is why I'm not hugely fussed if we don't end up buying huge volumes of players this summer. This season feels like a need to consolidate our position in the top 4, and maybe try and win a cup, which I feel we are very capable and very much in the mix to do. If that gives a grace period for the new ownership to properly get their feet under the table and plan ahead on the scouting and recruitment side towards next summer then I'm all for it.