Chelsea Transfers

[ZAPHOD2319 4,942]

 

[NikkiCFC 8,516]

Pulisic put better numbers than Lookman and Kvara this season in Seria A. 

[Vesper 31,037]

Chelsea close in on centre-back signing and have two wingers in their sights

https://thedailybriefing.io/i/145216332/Chelsea-close-in-on-centre-back-signing-and-have-two-wingers-in-their-sights

Chelsea are about to sign a new centre-back with the free transfer of Tosin Adarabioyo. A verbal agreement has been reached, and documents will be signed next week after his medical tests if everything goes to plan.

Newcastle were close to signing the defender, who is a free agent after deciding to leave Fulham, but the deal was never done. They were one step away, but it was never a done deal in terms of things being signed, it was just advanced talks. Chelsea have been able to convince him on their long term project, the vision, and Enzo Maresca’s ideas were also shared during their conversations.

So, Adarabioyo has accepted their proposal as deal will be completed next week. It looks like smart business by Chelsea, in my opinion, as they sign a proven Premier League player on a free, someone with experience but not old, so a good long-term option and a smart first signing for new manager Enzo Maresca. There was interest from a lot of other clubs, not just Newcastle - back in January AC Milan were also showing an interest, and also other clubs around Europe.

Chelsea are also internally discussing the goalkeeper position, and also deciding if they maybe want another centre-back, as well as a central striker. I can also say that a new winger is a possibility, and it may be worth returning on the Michael Olise case in the next days, because he’s a player appreciated by Chelsea for sure. But I can also say that Chelsea have been closely monitoring Crysencio Summerville.

Summerville has just had a fantastic season in the Championship, with Leeds unlucky in their race for promotion as they lost the playoff final to Southampton, and now Summerville is expected to change clubs this summer. Two clubs have been monitoring him more than others, and they are Chelsea and Liverpool.

The interest is really concrete from these two clubs - let’s see what they decide to do in terms of negotiations because we are not yet at that stage, and let’s see if other clubs decide to join the race, but for sure Summerville looks like one to watch for Chelsea and Liverpool.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,125]

On 26/05/2024 at 10:12, Mhsc said:

Spent all of last summer pining for Eze and Olise and everyone was saying we need Rayan fucking Cherki instead 

Not me! I wasn't talking about Eze last summer but I was very hopeful we would get Olise. Although it's hard to see why he would choose us now after rejecting us last summer I still can't shake the hope. 

Signing Olise would once again expose the real plan for many of the young left footed right winger prospects we have accumulated. They are tradable assets.

[OhForAGreavsie 6,125]

On 27/05/2024 at 15:35, Vesper said:

Cherki is a 'no end product' flashboy, and is a primadonna in terms of attitude.

Hard AF pass.

I can't comment on the attitude but completely agree on the description of his play and the hard pass,

Edited June 2, 2024 by OhForAGreavsie

[OhForAGreavsie 6,125]

On 28/05/2024 at 04:58, Strike said:

and we have Reece and Cucu able to play in central defense roles

At time of writing I still have more than 11 pages of this thread to read, but it's a fair guess that @vesper will have reminded everyone about her feelings on this subject by now. I know my vocabulary won't be up to it but let me try to summarise.

She never wants to see that bleeping midget Cucurella play centre bleeping back for this bleeping club ever a-bleeping-gain.

I think I got the gist of it.

[milka 3,407]

This club should be run by professionals. You get rid of your best defender in recent months Chalobah for pound notes to replace him, downgraded further in that position with Silva also leaving, you have Disasi, Badiashile who are at best  rotation players and Fofana , who hasn't played in years. Osimhen after a whole season of PR how Drogba supposedly persuaded him to go to Chelsea how Clownlake wanted him in the end you can't take him because you can't give a salary for these top players. Another PR about how  Clownlake wants two top talents in each position is another lie if we look at which players they focus on - from Fulham to the second Brazilian league.

 

 

[Mário César 1,475]

10 minutes ago, milka said:

This club should be run by professionals. You get rid of your best defender in recent months Chalobah for pound notes to replace him, downgraded further in that position with Silva also leaving, you have Disasi, Badiashile who are at best  rotation players and Fofana , who hasn't played in years. Osimhen after a whole season of PR how Drogba supposedly persuaded him to go to Chelsea how Clownlake wanted him in the end you can't take him because you can't give a salary for these top players. Another PR about how  Clownlake wants two top talents in each position is another lie if we look at which players they focus on - from Fulham to the second Brazilian league.

 

 

what a joke of a board, tbh

[Vesper 31,037]

On 16/04/2024 at 07:36, Vesper said:

GKers

Acceptable ones

(In order of valuation)

Diogo Costa    
Gregor Kobel 
Mike Maignan   
Giorgi Mamardashvili 
Jan Oblak    
Anatoliy Trubin    
Lucas Chevalier     
Matvey Safonov    
Filip Jørgensen 
Marco Carnesecchi
Álvaro Valles
Alex Meret
Bento
Guillaume Restes (youth)

Gotta get a little credit for pulling this one out of me bum, lolol

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/Chelsea-transfer-news-arsenal-goalkeeper-32938634

Chelsea are eyeing Las Palmas goalkeeper Alvaro Valles.

Enzo Maresca wants a ball-playing shot-stopper between the sticks at Stamford Bridge next season as he looks to implement a possession-based style of play and the 26-year-old Spaniard may fit the bill. Leicester goalkeeper Mads Hermansen played a prominent role under Maresca at the King Power Stadium - not only keeping the opposition at bay but also clearing up in behind the Foxes' backline and building play from the back.

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[Superblue 6,372]

5 hours ago, Vesper said:

Gotta get a little credit for pulling this one out of me bum, lolol

 

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/Chelsea-transfer-news-arsenal-goalkeeper-32938634

Chelsea are eyeing Las Palmas goalkeeper Alvaro Valles.

Enzo Maresca wants a ball-playing shot-stopper between the sticks at Stamford Bridge next season as he looks to implement a possession-based style of play and the 26-year-old Spaniard may fit the bill. Leicester goalkeeper Mads Hermansen played a prominent role under Maresca at the King Power Stadium - not only keeping the opposition at bay but also clearing up in behind the Foxes' backline and building play from the back.

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Year left on his contract, how much do you think he'd cost?

 

[LAM09 7,085]

On 01/06/2024 at 08:43, Mhsc said:

Signing him for £100m+ on huge wages would be bonkers. The whole point of the setup is that the club should be able to find an Osimhen before he's at Napoli for £125m and wants £300k+ pw. The signing could very feasibly backfire horribly, leaving us crippled again. We have to learn and do better.

Personally I think NJ could have a breakout season and become the player we need, and think he deserves the chance. We need to be giving players more of a chance than this before we write them off for a more expensive option. If we go for a striker, I would like to go for a very different profile to NJ to give the manager variety, and certainly be spending max £60m / 150k pw.

You could argue only City don't need a no.9 in the PL, but only we are constantly linked with Osimhen for insane money. Wonder why?

Were Caicedo and Enzo purchased for fair prices? Even while we aren't giving out contracts comparable to that of Sterling anymore, we aren't exactly improving on the transfer front either, aside from keeping players on for years who may end up being huge busts that we are unable to let go of.

Giving the players adequate opportunities to succeed or fail here is something I wholeheartedly support, but not at the expense of the team's long-term viability. Going another full campaign with only one CF is a non-starter, whether it's Osimhen, whose profile differs largely from Jackson's, or a lesser clamorous name who has some experience behind him. Sesko is not the answer.

I am unsure about your last point. He's linked heavily with us, as he's exactly what we need & is a Chelsea fan. The links don't stop with us; if you look around, Arsenal are potential suitors as well.

On 01/06/2024 at 09:01, Thor said:

I wouldn't mind Osimhen - where am I not a fan? 100+ mil for him is ridiculous though. Nico and VO both scored 17 goals this season. Why are we paying that much for someone? Victor has had 1 good season. 1. O N E. Where in the world would we considering 120 mil a decent transfer for him? 

Nico literally gave you a better than DD 1st season performance - and you still complain... 

 

Which starters are we selling to rivals? Jorgi? He is a bench player at Arsenal. Havertz? Do you want him back? Kovacic? Again - why? He wasn't anything special at City aside from being another cog in a well oiled machine. A stop gap. 

We came 6th in a pretty miserable season as far as continuity and injuries go. DD had seasons of barely cracking 10 goals and was lauded because of how our team clicked and because we were winning. Jackson would be equally praised if our defenders could defend and our manager set our midfield up correctly from the start of the season. No one wants to wait at all. No one here has the slightest bit of patience. We literally watched a young team get better - and now we want to add more players for 100 mil+ when they themselves are unproven. 

You mentioned not being keen on him in the past. Jackson played TWELVE more games. If you're going to compare numbers, at least let me be on a level playing field. I've said it countless times: prior to this season, Osimhen's output has gotten better year on year (even with a face-altering injury), so this one season talk is nonsense. There's no other way I can put it. Good business and this board don't usually mix together—just take a look at our ridiculous GK moves over the past year.

I'm only presenting a truth; the topic isn't whether we want them back. It looks like Gallagher will be the next name added to the list while we go overboard for any Tom, Dick, or Harry with a Brighton link.

DD had a presence; Jackson's is fighting to take a PK in a meaningless game while he was shying away from taking one for his country a few months prior. Moments like this sour my feelings towards him, not to mention his childish behaviour, resulting in 10 yellow cards. Almost as many cards as goals is hilarious. 

Osimhen is unproven? 😁

[whats happening 1,660]

hummels wants to leave dortmund. i would go for him if we cant buy araujo. 

[NikkiCFC 8,516]

21 minutes ago, LAM09 said:

Were Caicedo and Enzo purchased for fair prices? Even while we aren't giving out contracts comparable to that of Sterling anymore, we aren't exactly improving on the transfer front either, aside from keeping players on for years who may end up being huge busts that we are unable to let go of.

Giving the players adequate opportunities to succeed or fail here is something I wholeheartedly support, but not at the expense of the team's long-term viability. Going another full campaign with only one CF is a non-starter, whether it's Osimhen, whose profile differs largely from Jackson's, or a lesser clamorous name who has some experience behind him. Sesko is not the answer.

I am unsure about your last point. He's linked heavily with us, as he's exactly what we need & is a Chelsea fan. The links don't stop with us; if you look around, Arsenal are potential suitors as well.

You mentioned not being keen on him in the past. Jackson played TWELVE more games. If you're going to compare numbers, at least let me be on a level playing field. I've said it countless times: prior to this season, Osimhen's output has gotten better year on year (even with a face-altering injury), so this one season talk is nonsense. There's no other way I can put it. Good business and this board don't usually mix together—just take a look at our ridiculous GK moves over the past year.

I'm only presenting a truth; the topic isn't whether we want them back. It looks like Gallagher will be the next name added to the list while we go overboard for any Tom, Dick, or Harry with a Brighton link.

DD had a presence; Jackson's is fighting to take a PK in a meaningless game while he was shying away from taking one for his country a few months prior. Moments like this sour my feelings towards him, not to mention his childish behaviour, resulting in 10 yellow cards. Almost as many cards as goals is hilarious. 

Osimhen is unproven? 😁

Vlahovic outscored VO in 3 of the last 4 seasons in Seria A. Half the price and younger. He was available last summer probably is not anymore. So from this perspective paying 120m for VO would be mental. 

[Pizy 19,250]

19 minutes ago, whats happening said:

hummels wants to leave dortmund. i would go for him if we cant buy araujo. 

Maybe if we were still going to play 3 CB’s he could be a Thiago Silva sort of short term signing. But I wouldn’t trust him in the PL in a back 4. 

[LAM09 7,085]

22 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Vlahovic outscored VO in 3 of the last 4 seasons in Seria A. Half the price and younger. He was available last summer probably is not anymore. So from this perspective paying 120m for VO would be mental. 

Rumoured fee has been around €70m+. I personally don't think he matches the profile of CF we need. I'd imagine others feel the same, considering most rumours about suitors have cooled down considerably.

Also, it seems like people don't realise how much Napoli actually spent on Osimhen.

Edited June 2, 2024 by LAM09

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

47 minutes ago, whats happening said:

hummels wants to leave dortmund. i would go for him if we cant buy araujo. 

How are araujo and hummels interchangeable? Completely different types of CB

27 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Maybe if we were still going to play 3 CB’s he could be a Thiago Silva sort of short term signing. But I wouldn’t trust him in the PL in a back 4. 

Hummels is finished. He has had one last good season after years of decline. Hummels is now super slow probably slower than 40yo Thiago who was rapid when young while Hummels was always a snail 

It is not a vintage year for German cbs but if I needed to pick one apart from Toni it would be Tah and maybe koch. Both not perfect but one is a commanding presence, leader and good tactical brain, the other is PL proven, versatile and cheap 

Edit; just in, tah has agreed to join Bayern who ofc want to poach their main rivals leading figure. 

 

Edited June 2, 2024 by Magic Lamps

[Vesper 31,037]

4 hours ago, Superblue said:

Year left on his contract, how much do you think he'd cost?

 

I would wager around £10m to £15m, as, like you said, his contracr expires at the end of next June and his agent says he will not renew

[Vesper 31,037]

3 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

How are araujo and hummels interchangeable? Completely different types of CB

Hummels is finished. He has had one last good season after years of decline. Hummels is now super slow probably slower than 40yo Thiago who was rapid when young while Hummels was always a snail 

It is not a vintage year for German cbs but if I needed to pick one apart from Toni it would be Tah and maybe koch. Both not perfect but one is a commanding presence, leader and good tactical brain, the other is PL proven, versatile and cheap 

Edit; just in, tah has agreed to join Bayern who ofc want to poach their main rivals leading figure. 

 

My top 3, in order, in terms of best now would be Rüdiger (along with VVD one of the 2 best 31yo and older CBs on the planet, with Alaba 3rd, when recovered), Nico Schlotterbeck and probably Tah, but none are availabe, obviously

in terms of buying, perhaps Malick Thiaw from AC Milan

[Strike 7,761]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

I would wager around £10m to £15m, as, like you said, his contracr expires at the end of next June and his agent says he will not renew

any preference between Valles, Jorgenson and Marmadashvili?

[Vesper 31,037]

5 hours ago, Strike said:

any preference between Valles, Jorgenson and Marmadashvili?

Mamardashvili

Vallés

Jörgensen

in that order

my number one overall choice is, of course, Diogo Costa, who is, after Ederson, the best ball playing GKer I have seen out there atm

 

BUT

if Mamar or Costa cost so much it blocks us on buying an elite CB, then I go with Vallés

 

Álvaro Vallés: The Modern Sweeper Keeper

https://breakingthelines.com/player-analysis/alvaro-valles-the-modern-sweeper-keeper/

Club: Las Palmas

Nationality: Spain

Position: GK

Preferred Foot: Right

Height: 6’3”/191cm

Age: 26

Strengths: reflexes, speed, line-breaking passes, composure, technical security, claiming crosses

Areas for Development: top-flight experience

It has been quite the arduous rise for Álvaro Vallés. After honing his trade at the academies of Real Madrid and Real Betis, Vallés plied his trade on loan at fourth-tier Gerena before making the move to Las Palmas in 2018. He would cut his teeth with their B team in the third division before eventually competing for a first-team place, solidifying a starting spot in goal in 2022/23 and leading the Canarian side back to the top-flight.

Las Palmas have impressed in their first La Liga season in six years thanks in large part to Vallés, who has made the most of his first Primera season and emerged as one of the standout goalkeepers in the division. A 6’3″ shot-stopper with incredible reflexes, Vallés is a ball-playing goalkeeper who passes every test: the eye test, the data test, the mentality test and the price test.

Whenever he has to make a quick decision, Vallés can react well and scan the scenario at a moment’s notice, boasting solid awareness and capable of anticipating where the shot is travelling. He’s skilled at altering his body orientation and reaching the optimal position to make the save. He boasts a save percentage of 74.2%, whilst he is also saving an astonishing 37.5% of the penalty saves that he has faced this season.

Under the reign of García Pimienta, Las Palmas have adopted a fearless approach in their return to La Liga and have heavily prioritized having the ball — only Barcelona (64.6%) averaged more possession than Las Palmas (59.8%) this season. They tend to build in a hybrid of a 3-4-1-3 / 3-5-3, with Vallés pushing up and operating as an extra center back in order to create a numerical overload at the back and play through the opponent’s pressing structure.

Vallés has the confidence and pausa to manipulate the press, waiting until the opponent rushes forward before playing a clever pass through the lines, remaining calm and composed and dictating the play with his passing like a press-resistant midfielder. Comfortable in possession, Vallés is a two-footed player who can receive the ball under pressure from either side and execute passes to perfection, and his teammates are always willing to give him the ball and entrust his technical security in dangerous situations.

It should come as no surprise that Vallés ranks in the 99th percentile for touches (56.71) and defensive actions outside the penalty area (2.65) as well as the 96th for average distance of defensive actions, per FBRef.com. Moreover, he ranks in the 91st percentile amongst goalkeepers in Europe’s top five leagues over the past year when it comes to Post-Shot Expected Goals minus Goals Allowed (+0.21), perhaps the most reliable metric when it comes to determining a goalkeeper’s shot-stopping ability.

The Las Palmas goalkeeper acts as a sweeper for the team and is often positioned higher up due to Las Palmas playing a higher defensive line. Similarly to Manuel Neuer, he’s somebody who always backs himself to take risks, come off his line, and make crucial interventions in order to prevent the opposing attack from getting into a dangerous goal-scoring scenario.

Despite a dreadful run of form that saw them close out the campaign with one win, six draws, and 10 defeats, Las Palmas managed to finish 16th in the table, seven points clear of the drop. Now, it’s time for a major rebuild at the Estadio Gran Canaria. García Pimienta will depart his post and become Sevilla’s new manager, and it seems that quite a few key players like Alberto Moleiro and Saúl Coco will follow him out the exit door.

With a contract until 2025, it seems a matter of time before Álvaro Vallés becomes the next player to depart Pío Pío. A 1v1 specialist who is quick off his line and skilled at maneuvering past the pressure, he has emerged as one of the finest goalkeepers in Spain this season, and he could very well end up surpassing Pedri (€23m) as Las Palmas’ club-record sale this summer.