LAM09 7,091 Posted May 31, 2024 Share Posted May 31, 2024 5 hours ago, Mário César said: talented talented talented im tired of this word You and me both. It would nice to see "proven" before any buzzword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper 31,110 Posted May 31, 2024 Share Posted May 31, 2024 19 minutes ago, LAM09 said: You and me both. It would nice to see "proven" before any buzzword. Ronald Araujo Alessandro Bastoni Matthijs de Ligt Bremer António Silva Giorgio Scalvini Mohamed Simakan Jean-Clair Todibo Alessandro Buongiorno Riccardo Calafiori youth: Leny Yoro LAM09 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted May 31, 2024 Share Posted May 31, 2024 5 hours ago, Mário César said: talented talented talented im tired of this word Think this might be an issue of Fabs english again. The "important" suggests to me we're looking for somebody who will take responsibility right away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,091 Posted May 31, 2024 Share Posted May 31, 2024 20 minutes ago, Vesper said: Ronald Araujo Alessandro Bastoni Matthijs de Ligt Bremer António Silva Giorgio Scalvini Mohamed Simakan Jean-Clair Todibo Alessandro Buongiorno Riccardo Calafiori youth: Leny Yoro Bastion, along with Barella (if Gallagher does move on), are who I've been calling for. There is always something about not having two left-footed starting CBs, but if they can do the job, talent should take precedence over anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,399 Posted May 31, 2024 Share Posted May 31, 2024 Todibo for me. Can play either side. Tall. Fast. Perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artandur 939 Posted May 31, 2024 Share Posted May 31, 2024 Wondering why there are so few rumors about Scalvini. Would've thought a lot of clubs would be looking at him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,954 Posted May 31, 2024 Share Posted May 31, 2024 It is sounding more dead than ever. blu35_army, LAM09, Fernando and 2 others 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 19,280 Posted May 31, 2024 Share Posted May 31, 2024 11 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: It is sounding more dead than ever. Using his age as a turnoff is silly and kind of concerning as well. The dude is 25. Not even in his prime yet. He ain’t 30. The meme’s about our ownership only wanting to buy 17 year olds is starting to becoming reality. They are (and should be) mandating a top 4 finish this coming season. And yet they want to give a brand new manager some unproven 20 year striker who will have to hit the ground running? It makes no sense. I don’t want Osimhen as I’ve say for the past couple of weeks but his profile in terms of age and expericend is exactly what we should want. Someone 23-25, proven at a high level, and someone we can be confident in coming and scoring straight away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 "in terms of aged" he is only 25 years jesus christ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,091 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Pizy said: Using his age as a turnoff is silly and kind of concerning as well. The dude is 25. Not even in his prime yet. He ain’t 30. The meme’s about our ownership only wanting to buy 17 year olds is starting to becoming reality. They are (and should be) mandating a top 4 finish this coming season. And yet they want to give a brand new manager some unproven 20 year striker who will have to hit the ground running? It makes no sense. I don’t want Osimhen as I’ve say for the past couple of weeks but his profile in terms of age and expericend is exactly what we should want. Someone 23-25, proven at a high level, and someone we can be confident in coming and scoring straight away. Everything points to us becoming nothing more than a feeder club. More often than not, this includes questionable appointments and signing players who can't even legally drink. Edited June 1, 2024 by LAM09 Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,819 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 You guys really buy into these easy media narratives they keep repeating. Vic ain't it, regardless. And the age thing here, is probably how much they want to pay for the transfer fee given how many great years he has. Enzo and Caceido are early 20s, and that investment makes sense as you are getting 10+ good years from them. We are in no way close to becoming a feeder club. kexik and Fernando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LAM09 7,091 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, Thor said: You guys really buy into these easy media narratives they keep repeating. Vic ain't it, regardless. And the age thing here, is probably how much they want to pay for the transfer fee given how many great years he has. Enzo and Caceido are early 20s, and that investment makes sense as you are getting 10+ good years from them. We are in no way close to becoming a feeder club. You clearly haven't been a fan of Osimhen from the start, but you have yet to propose a viable alternative (Jackson has been uttered by you, which is already something in itself). If Osimhen offered half of what DD did during his first spell, the transfer fee would be a no-brainer in this current climate, with Lukaku going the opposite way. We are selling starters to our rivals, clinching on to the idea of EL football, and we haven't got a WC player in the squad (James & Nkunku are too injury-prone rn to even consider them). Time will tell when Enzo is the first of the big signings to be shipped off. Edited June 1, 2024 by LAM09 kexik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,146 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 27 minutes ago, LAM09 said: You clearly haven't been a fan of Osimhen from the start, but you have yet to propose a viable alternative (Jackson has been uttered by you, which is already something in itself). If Osimhen offered half of what DD did during his first spell, the transfer fee would be a no-brainer in this current climate, with Lukaku going the opposite way. We are selling starters to our rivals, clinching on to the idea of EL football, and we haven't got a WC player in the squad (James & Nkunku are too injury-prone rn to even consider them). Time will tell when Enzo is the first of the big signings to be shipped off. Signing him for £100m+ on huge wages would be bonkers. The whole point of the setup is that the club should be able to find an Osimhen before he's at Napoli for £125m and wants £300k+ pw. The signing could very feasibly backfire horribly, leaving us crippled again. We have to learn and do better. Personally I think NJ could have a breakout season and become the player we need, and think he deserves the chance. We need to be giving players more of a chance than this before we write them off for a more expensive option. If we go for a striker, I would like to go for a very different profile to NJ to give the manager variety, and certainly be spending max £60m / 150k pw. You could argue only City don't need a no.9 in the PL, but only we are constantly linked with Osimhen for insane money. Wonder why? ulsterchelsea, Fernando and Thor 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,819 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 54 minutes ago, LAM09 said: You clearly haven't been a fan of Osimhen from the start, but you have yet to propose a viable alternative (Jackson has been uttered by you, which is already something in itself). If Osimhen offered half of what DD did during his first spell, the transfer fee would be a no-brainer in this current climate, with Lukaku going the opposite way. We are selling starters to our rivals, clinching on to the idea of EL football, and we haven't got a WC player in the squad (James & Nkunku are too injury-prone rn to even consider them). Time will tell when Enzo is the first of the big signings to be shipped off. I wouldn't mind Osimhen - where am I not a fan? 100+ mil for him is ridiculous though. Nico and VO both scored 17 goals this season. Why are we paying that much for someone? Victor has had 1 good season. 1. O N E. Where in the world would we considering 120 mil a decent transfer for him? Nico literally gave you a better than DD 1st season performance - and you still complain... Which starters are we selling to rivals? Jorgi? He is a bench player at Arsenal. Havertz? Do you want him back? Kovacic? Again - why? He wasn't anything special at City aside from being another cog in a well oiled machine. A stop gap. We came 6th in a pretty miserable season as far as continuity and injuries go. DD had seasons of barely cracking 10 goals and was lauded because of how our team clicked and because we were winning. Jackson would be equally praised if our defenders could defend and our manager set our midfield up correctly from the start of the season. No one wants to wait at all. No one here has the slightest bit of patience. We literally watched a young team get better - and now we want to add more players for 100 mil+ when they themselves are unproven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 2,819 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 I'd take Zirkzee before VO. bluesman2610 and cfccrost 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mário César 1,483 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 I like osihmen, but these prices for a player who has only had one good season are very risky frankly I don't think any club is going to pay 100M pounds for him Mhsc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mhsc 1,146 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 25 minutes ago, Mário César said: I like osihmen, but these prices for a player who has only had one good season are very risky frankly I don't think any club is going to pay 100M pounds for him Yeah I really like him too, lots of amazing attributes but he also has big limitations and it is way too big of a risk for the money being discussed (~£115m+, ~300k+ pw?) For reference Nicolas Jackson is on £65k per week and cost £29.8m. Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strike 7,792 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 OneMoSalah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,676 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 1 minute ago, Strike said: If true, that would mean Chalobah is going to be sold... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,676 Posted June 1, 2024 Share Posted June 1, 2024 1 hour ago, Mário César said: I like osihmen, but these prices for a player who has only had one good season are very risky frankly I don't think any club is going to pay 100M pounds for him He's not the biggest priority, we need to sort out the defense first before worrying about spending 100 million in attack! Maresca needs to figure his best CB combo as soon as possible as there is no Thiago Silva to lead the team anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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