Chelsea Transfers

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

13 minutes ago, Hermione said:

Ignore him he is probably a butthurt United fan still angry Hazard didn't go there.

Lol probs 🙃 😄  although I'd say Barca fan. See who's laughing when his clubs just a memory.

Edited July 25, 2022 by Kong

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

11 minutes ago, Vesper said:

wtf

ffs

that is only £55m-£59m!!!

for a top 5 on planet CB who is 27 years old

Skriniar is STREETS AHEAD of Kounde, who we were going to dump the same amount of cash on

there are only a handful of truly WC CB's out there

and a back 3 of Skriniar/Silva (even at 37)/KK

has 3 of them

the others being (IMHO):

Dias
VVD
Marquinhos
de Ligt
Alaba

then some maybes:

Rudiger (at least he was last season, let's see how he does in a back 2)
Alessandro Bastoni (if he rebounds back to his form before last season)
Ronald Araújo (another big miss by us, and of course it involved Barca getting him to renew despite them owing him millions)
Aymeric Laporte (was back to his best last season after struggling to full recover from his bad injury)  
José María Giménez   (but is injured too often)

finally, all these are no longer WC  due to age, only Thiago still remains WC from the old Big Five CBs 

Leonardo Bonucci 
Sergio Ramos   
Gerard Piqué 
Giorgio Chiellini

 

 

Also Skriniar does not have a lot of mileage in his legs, considering he spent a large chunk of his career in the slow Slovakian league.

His injury reckord is immaculate btw. Only missed games bc of corona virus in his entire career.

I don't think it is even a contest between Kounde and Skirniar given the same price. the only thing that goes for the diminutive frenchman is his versatility.

If we got him we would have ugraded our defence massively despie losing Rüdiger.

Sadly, I think we are 2nd favourites to land him and I don't think we can oust PSG here.

 

On a side note, Apparently Ancelotti does not want to disrupt the Eder - Alaba CB partnerhsip and is playing Rüdiger as LB lol

 

[Amad_diallo 16]

A player worth looking into Memphis depay a player  with high upside. There's not many attacking options out there left,  to be honest we seem lightweight attacking wise and I think the pre-season has shown us that. I rather have depay in the side then timo  its becoming a little bit frustrating to watch. 

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

9 minutes ago, Amad_diallo said:

A player worth looking into Memphis depay a player  with high upside. There's not many attacking options out there left,  to be honest we seem lightweight attacking wise and I think the pre-season has shown us that. I rather have depay in the side then timo  its becoming a little bit frustrating to watch. 

When we start looking at depay as an option we know we are fucked.

[OneMoSalah 8,772]

Whilst Skriniar is a top player, he struggled immensely on the ball under Conte in a back 3 as a wide centre back. 

[Amad_diallo 16]

2 minutes ago, Kong said:

When we start looking at depay as an option we know we are fucked.

Well everybody is entitled to their own opinion, what other options are out there ?

[Vegetable 830]

May seem counterintuitive, but after all I'd rather welcome a shift in club's policy and just not buying players when no good enough players are available, than buying mystery shots that end up as an unsellable deadweight the very next window and block real opportunities that come up.

[Henrique 9,133]

It will take some time before the club becomes a proper and professional club again. New owner doesn't know how to run a football club, and doesn't even know who to hire to do job. This transfer window was always going to be a mess. 

[YorkshireBlue 3,122]

35 minutes ago, Amad_diallo said:

Well everybody is entitled to their own opinion, what other options are out there ?

I'd honestly us save the money than waste it like previously. Quick fixers never work and I doubt he would even be that.

[MoroccanBlue 5,291]

4 minutes ago, Kong said:

I'd honestly us save the money than waste it like previously. Quick fixers never work and I doubt he would even be that.

Normally I'd agree but there is far too much dross to rely on for rotation. 

As we saw last season, too much rotation and we sink. 

[Jype 6,398]

€40M+5M, are Barcelona fucking joking? What should be Sevilla's motive for accepting €20M less than they already had on the table from Chelsea?

Barca's antics should really be looked into. They have all these unofficial negotiations with just about every other player out there and make all kinds of promises to turn the player's head into wanting a move there. When the player's already become unsettled they then proceed to start low-balling the selling club with their joke offers. It happened with Raphinha, it's happening with Azpilicueta & Alonso and now it's happening again with Kounde.

If you're gonna hijack a transfer, at least have the common decency of matching or improving the bid of the other club and conclude the deal quickly. Despicable club.

[Special Juan 27,419]

4 minutes ago, Jype said:

€40M+5M, are Barcelona fucking joking? What should be Sevilla's motive for accepting €20M less than they already had on the table from Chelsea?

Barca's antics should really be looked into. They have all these unofficial negotiations with just about every other player out there and make all kinds of promises to turn the player's head into wanting a move there. When the player's already become unsettled they then proceed to start low-balling the selling club with their joke offers. It happened with Raphinha, it's happening with Azpilicueta & Alonso and now it's happening again with Kounde.

If you're gonna hijack a transfer, at least have the common decency of matching or improving the bid of the other club and conclude the deal quickly. Despicable club.

I have never ever in my life known anything like it.

[Vesper 28,708]

1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

It's whether which one is best for our system. 

The RCB and LCB need to be ball carrying defenders. Is that Skriniar?

Chelsea are weighing up several defensive targets this summer, so which one is best statistically? Matthijs de Ligt leads the way in the air and Kalidou Koulibaly makes most interventions... but Milan Skriniar is great with the ball at his feet

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10986791/Chelsea-Matthijs-Ligt-Kalidou-Koulibaly-defensive-targets-compare-statistically.html

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Jules Kounde (Sevilla)

A long-term target for the club, Kounde is hugely admired at Chelsea after emerging as one of the standout defenders in European football over the past few seasons.

The France defender has made 95 league appearances since heading to Sevilla in 2019, 32 of which came in the previous campaign.

Across his 2,738 minutes last term, Kounde stacks up to De Ligt unfavourably in the heading department, winning just 2.4 aerial duels per game compared to the latter's four.

He has the slight edge when it comes to tackles, producing 1.3 per game in 2021/22, yet his average of 0.7 interceptions and 0.6 blocks was marginally lower. They were both on hand with 3.1 clearances per 90 minutes.

When it comes to passing, Kounde is the more impressive after registering a superior 65.6 passes per game and the same pass completion of 89 per cent.

The 23-year-old also got on the scoresheet twice and provided as many assists, though his discipline is perhaps a concern given he picked up two red cards.

While he was forced to undergo surgery on a pelvis issue last summer, Kounde is yet to miss a large period of matches through injury since bursting onto the scene at Bordeaux in 2018.

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Kalidou Koulibaly (Napoli)

Having proven a crucial member of Napoli's backline for close to a decade, Koulibaly has been linked with top club after top club for many a year and Chelsea are one of several eyeing him up this summer.

He was just as important for the Italian club last term, clocking up 2,406 minutes in his 27 starts as Luciano Spalletti's men secured third place in Serie A.

Despite his imposing figure, the Senegal defender only averaged 1.8 successful aerial duels throughout the previous season, which is the lowest of all four Chelsea targets so far.

However, in almost every other defensive area Koulibaly managed to outperform De Ligt, Kounde and Ake.

On average last season he registered 1.4 tackles, 1.1 interceptions, 3.1 clearances - equal to De Ligt - and 0.9 blocks per game. 

His pass completion of 87 per cent is also solid given he averaged 60.8 passes per game for Napoli, while he was also on hand with three goals and as many assists.

Koulibaly's disciplinary record was not too troubling, with five yellows and a red card fairly standard practice for a defender, but his injury history will concern Tuchel most.

Over the past two and a half years he has missed 31 games due to fitness issues, and given the 31-year-old now has as many years on the clock his condition could worsen.

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Milan Skriniar (Inter Milan)

The 27-year-old has been a first-team regular for Inter ever since he rocked up at the San Siro in 2017, making at least 32 league appearances in each of his five seasons with the club.

He was afforded 35 by Simone Inzaghi in the previous season, all coming as starts, meaning he was involved in 3,150 of their 3,420 Serie A minutes overall.

And when taking a look at his stats for 2021/22 it is not hard to see why.

While there is no defensive area where Skriniar trumps the other four players in this list - averaging 1.3 tackles, 0.7 interceptions, 1.5 aerial duels, 0.7 blocks and 2.5 clearances per game - his pass completion of 93 per cent is mightily impressive considering the amount of time he spent on the pitch.

He produced 60 successful passes per match in his 35 outings for Inter, meaning Tuchel would be able to count on him in a system centred around playing out from the back.

Skriniar also contributed three goals down the other end, while receiving a mere three yellow cards all season.

If he were to prove as consistent in English football, the Slovakia international, who has not missed a league match through injury for the last six seasons, would undoubtedly be a reliable defensive option for Tuchel.

[Special Juan 27,419]

We now have to be really hot on the heels of Skriniar, a must.

[Amad_diallo 16]

9 minutes ago, Kong said:

I'd honestly us save the money than waste it like previously. Quick fixers never work and I doubt he would even be that.

Judging by last season and this pre-season,  We dont have reliable striker yet maybe havertz in the future who knows ? but going in to the season with Broja,werner and havertz, With tottenham improving arsenal looks better with jesus added not to mention city liverpool  . Quick fixers is maybe what we need 

[Vesper 28,708]

8 hours ago, Pizy said:

We don’t even seem to be linked with any attacking players anymore, never mind being close to actually signing one. We bid £60m or whatever for Raphinha, failed, and then just….said ‘okay’ and moved on to no alternative?

because there are hardly any legit ones left

CF only Osimhen and (if you count him as a CF) Danjuma (who can play winger)

then a handful of wingers

Rafael Leão 
Moussa Diaby   left footer
Mikel Oyarzabal  lefty
Jarrod Bowen  lefty

wild card
Domenico Berardi  lefty

 

 

[Amad_diallo 16]

Anyway, I dont understand barcelona's way of thinking why did they buy Rafinha when they already have dembele. ? 

[MoroccanBlue 5,291]

5 minutes ago, Amad_diallo said:

Anyway, I dont understand barcelona's way of thinking why did they buy Rafinha when they already have dembele. ? 

Isn't it obvious?

Ter Stegan

Kounde

Torres          Pedri  Kessie   Gavi       Fati

 Dembele  Lewandowski  Aubameyang  Raphinha