Jase 43,479 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Pizy said: People really need to cool it with writing Lukaku off as a mistake already. You wouldn’t write off Kane who’s having a miserable season or Messi who hasn’t done a thing at PSG yet just because they’re in a rough patch. I’d give him a whole season before truly judging him. Plus, we can be 100% sure he isn’t a player like Morata or Torres who will mentally collapse if things are going poorly. He’s got that killer mentality from Inter and will be determined to fight through poor form. Not saying your notion is necessarily wrong but you're comparing players who are going through poor spells for different reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 3 hours ago, Pizy said: People really need to cool it with writing Lukaku off as a mistake already. You wouldn’t write off Kane who’s having a miserable season or Messi who hasn’t done a thing at PSG yet just because they’re in a rough patch. I’d give him a whole season before truly judging him. Plus, we can be 100% sure he isn’t a player like Morata or Torres who will mentally collapse if things are going poorly. He’s got that killer mentality from Inter and will be determined to fight through poor form. Unfortunately Lukaku is a known quantity. This isn't like a Harvetz/Salah/KdB etc situation where they were young boys and needed time to acclimatise. Furthermore, this isn't even a Werner sort of situation where you should allow someone time to adapt as they've no experience of the league. Lukaku is 28 and has plenty of experience of the PL. He is as close of a plug and play type of signing as you can get. What people such as myself and @OhForAGreavsie are saying is that the level that we're getting out of Lukaku is what we said his level would be due to his technical limitations. The kind of performances you're seeing is what his level is and he hasn't ever shown anything else apart from a rare performance/moment here or there. What happened this Summer however was a lot of people drunk the Koolaid and thought that Conte had performed some sort of voodoo magic spell and transformed his technique. As @OhForAGreavsie says, it didn't take a stroke of genius to know this was nonsense. I mean even his stats weren't that great as in Serie A even 39/40 year old Zlatan, who only has one knee now, was posting similar stats to him (and he was in a worse team) whilst this season Giroud on a minute to minute basis is also outperforming him and Giroud doesn't even take penos. OhForAGreavsie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Still think Rom hits 20 PL goals by seasons end. The question has to be whether we can win the PL with him as our primary striker and I think the answer is yes as long as the team around him maintains the level we see now. Would I prefer a different sort of striker? Probably so. But it’s not like we had many options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,073 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 34 minutes ago, Pizy said: Still think Rom hits 20 PL goals by seasons end. The question has to be whether we can win the PL with him as our primary striker and I think the answer is yes as long as the team around him maintains the level we see now. Would I prefer a different sort of striker? Probably so. But it’s not like we had many options. I think you're right that Rom can contribute. Though he is now a little off the pace for 20 PL goals this season it's not impossible for him to catch up. In any case, 18, 19 or 20 goals is not likely to be the deal breaker for our title hopes. I would not have signed Rom and was disappointed when we did but he's far from a 0/10 player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 We can win title even if Lukaku score zero goals if our defence is on this level all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: I think you're right that Rom can contribute. Though he is now a little off the pace for 20 PL goals this season it's not impossible for him to catch up. In any case, 18, 19 or 20 goals is not likely to be the deal breaker for our title hopes. I would not have signed Rom and was disappointed when we did but he's far from a 0/10 player. Rom is a poison to our team, the issue is not individual performances. I could live with that like Werner, Zyich, Havertz, Pulisic, Mount, etc when they have bad games. But they still do their individual assignments and general play to make sure their performances does not spill over to the team. Rom is a huge detriment to the team. I hope Tuchel gives him the Chilwell treatment, even though Chilly did nothing to lose his spot. I hope to see Tuchel make Lukaku earn his starting spot. btw he is on pace to score around 11 goals, he has 3 goals with 1/4 season in the book. Edited November 4, 2021 by Clockwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Pizy said: Still think Rom hits 20 PL goals by seasons end. The question has to be whether we can win the PL with him as our primary striker and I think the answer is yes as long as the team around him maintains the level we see now. Would I prefer a different sort of striker? Probably so. But it’s not like we had many options. No way is he getting 20 PL goals. He'd be lucky to get 15. Clockwork 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 6 hours ago, Pizy said: People really need to cool it with writing Lukaku off as a mistake already. You wouldn’t write off Kane who’s having a miserable season or Messi who hasn’t done a thing at PSG yet just because they’re in a rough patch. I’d give him a whole season before truly judging him. Plus, we can be 100% sure he isn’t a player like Morata or Torres who will mentally collapse if things are going poorly. He’s got that killer mentality from Inter and will be determined to fight through poor form. My opinion of Rom is not something I have mustered up over night. I didn't want him to return in 2016 or 2017, i just simply don't like his overall game. I'm not saying he's completely useless and there will be games where he will be useful. If he was being utilised in that way I wouldn't have that huge an issue but he's literally playing every game he's avaliable for even when the false 9 is more suitable to a certain game (City prime example). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,818 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 Trevoh signs new contract. Vesper and Norfolkblue1961 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Seeing as Antonio rates Lakaku so highly, what do you reckon on a straight swap for Kane.👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 Charlie Musonda confirmed he is leaving at the end of the season. Good luck for him. One deadwood less on the books. https://www.instagram.com/p/CV0wTDztvVR/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,818 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 2 hours ago, ulvhedin said: Charlie Musonda confirmed he is leaving at the end of the season. Good luck for him. One deadwood less on the books. https://www.instagram.com/p/CV0wTDztvVR/ They are in dire need to rebuild their CBs and defence. If Kane is leaving they will want to address multiple positions. Add to that Levy never wants to do business with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ulvhedin 526 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said: They are in dire need to rebuild their CBs and defence. If Kane is leaving they will want to address multiple positions. Add to that Levy never wants to do business with us. wrong quote mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAPHOD2319 4,818 Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, ulvhedin said: wrong quote mate My apologies! It is still early morning for me and barely started on my coffee!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milka 3,394 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 2 hours ago, milka said: Is he any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kante 1,643 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 32 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Is he any good? Be very surprised if there is anyone on here that has actually watched this boy in 10+ full 90 minute games to give a real opinion. Best bet you've got is to go and look at some stats and Youtube videos and make up your own mind, taking into consideration that those aren't the greatest means to assess a player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,382 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 39 minutes ago, King Kante said: Be very surprised if there is anyone on here that has actually watched this boy in 10+ full 90 minute games to give a real opinion. Best bet you've got is to go and look at some stats and Youtube videos and make up your own mind, taking into consideration that those aren't the greatest means to assess a player. Looks like a tank. So long as he is good on the ball and decent positional awarness, he should be fine. A bonus he is familiar with this system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 4 hours ago, milka said: Hopefully someone who is going to be there to compete with Rudiger meaning Sarr gets loaned out more than anything else. Also just because Low is Hungarian doesn’t necessarily mean anything in regards to he hand picked him etc, we know how the club operates and how they always have, likelihood we have been following him for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,319 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 1 hour ago, King Kante said: Be very surprised if there is anyone on here that has actually watched this boy in 10+ full 90 minute games to give a real opinion. @nyikolajevics nyikolajevics 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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