Todd Boehly Thread

[OneMoSalah 8,886]

After a good start initially when he came in, I am now a bit more dubious and also curious to see how things go from here on, seemed to be a lot of noise about him in the window and now after sacking a manager, lots of talk of situations which you wouldn’t necessarily want to see at an elite level football clubhouse .

First and foremost if you don't want someone as manager don’t let them spend 270m and sack them 7 games after full pre season. For me that is amateurish. If he wanted Graham Potter before the season started, cut the cord, make your intentions clear… don’t go on talking nonsense about giving another manager a new deal, wanting him central to the club etc. Absolutely amateurish. 

Secondly the Ronaldo situation as mentioned above also by another member. Let the football people make the football decisions. Or appoint some competent football people first. Ronaldo would of purely been a statement signing and a commercial one, as he clearly like Lukaku wasn’t going to fit TT’s team. No wonder pundits such as Neville and Souness weren’t waiting about to take pot shots at him but also rightfully so in some regards.

Thirdly his refusal to follow Tuchel’s idea to meet certain players who were targets and get a feel for their character, personality and figure out how they may fit in the group as well as in the team and just purely trusting performance data. I think after the Lukaku debacle, their character and how their personality fits into the group should be hugely considered.

Fourthly scrapping a whole football infrastructure without having any real key components in place or at least some personnel to try and smooth it over, this has also contributed to the Tuchel situation and furthermore whilst it may not affect Graham Potter immediately, may when things are in place. Could always be a clash of personalities, opinions etc. this guys need to all be on the same page for us to be successful.

I am still hopeful after this whole summer and the Tuchel sacking that Boehly’s intentions are obviously to challenge and improve the club on all levels so that it can be highly successful but I am a bit more sceptical now. I might end up eating humble pie eventually but I just feel the guy was full of shit on all the messages and praises on Tuchel so who’s to say he wont be with Potter? Or anything else that he made out to be his intentions? 

Anyway onwards and upwards. 

Edited September 8, 2022 by OneMoSalah

[Fernando 6,585]

Taking us down to perdition. 

Instead of growing the club he will stagnate it so bad that he will sell the club eventually at a loss. 

[DDA 9,941]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

Taking us down to perdition. 

Instead of growing the club he will stagnate it so bad that he will sell the club eventually at a loss. 

Is this a serious take on a owner/chairman who has only been in the role for a several months? 🤔 

You can't be serious!

[Fernando 6,585]

9 hours ago, DDA said:

Is this a serious take on a owner/chairman who has only been in the role for a several months? 🤔 

You can't be serious!

The way they are running the club is very amateurish to me. I see nothing but trouble coming in the horizon. 

 

[manpe 10,861]

On 08/09/2022 at 16:30, Blue Armour said:

The Ronaldo situation is a bit ridiculous if true.

An owner pushing a player on a coach who doesn't want him is exactly the sort of thing you don't want to see.

 

The only reason I see why the owners wanted Ronaldo is for marketability, can't get much bigger than Ronaldo in selling shirts and plastering his photos everywhere. Tuchel obviously didn't care about that. Remains to be seen if Potter will be a yes-man.

[milka 3,393]

 

[YorkshireBlue 3,279]

11 hours ago, Fernando said:

The way they are running the club is very amateurish to me. I see nothing but trouble coming in the horizon. 

 

And in your clearly professional opinion, how exactly are they running the club? Spending money in transfer market and getting there own man in? (Potter) what exactly do you see there that isn't normal? 

Edited September 11, 2022 by Kong

[DDA 9,941]

11 hours ago, Fernando said:

The way they are running the club is very amateurish to me. I see nothing but trouble coming in the horizon. 

 

Please explain ? 

Imagine if they had come in and not spent a penny in the summer after losing key figures of the first team. 

Imagine if they had sat around watching TT self destruct on and off the pitch whilst we are getting battered on it. 

Imagine keeping the old regime on board after the absolute clown show they had turned us into.

Imagine knowing that one of the brightest prospects in football management was still at a club where his services were ataibable and striking to get him before one of the other big clubs were to make a move. 

Imagine planning for the future by purchasing some of the hottest youth prospects in Europe with a view to bolster an already incredible youth system.

Just Imagine.... all of those objectives being met within 3 months and yet still Chelsea fans are moaning! 

Truly Bizarre.

 

Edited September 11, 2022 by DDA

[Strike 7,492]

4 hours ago, DDA said:

Please explain ? 

Imagine if they had come in and not spent a penny in the summer after losing key figures of the first team. 

Imagine if they had sat around watching TT self destruct on and off the pitch whilst we are getting battered on it. 

Imagine keeping the old regime on board after the absolute clown show they had turned us into.

Imagine knowing that one of the brightest prospects in football management was still at a club where his services were ataibable and striking to get him before one of the other big clubs were to make a move. 

Imagine planning for the future by purchasing some of the hottest youth prospects in Europe with a view to bolster an already incredible youth system.

Just Imagine.... all of those objectives being met within 3 months and yet still Chelsea fans are moaning! 

Truly Bizarre.

 

Tuchel wanted Matthijs de Ligt, Raphinha, Frenkie de Jong and Presnel Kimpembe. He did not want Kounde and Ronaldo which were broadly the right decisions for me. The club also reportedly drew up plans for a 4-4-3 formation - some amateur stuff happening if true.

All the club briefings on the sacking point to a broken relationship and I have no qualms with the decision. But to say Todd and co. are doing a good job after this transfer window is a big leap for me. I feel they have the enthusiasm and the best interests at heart but I am not convinced they are going to run this club efficiently yet. They have to be held accountable for this summer as much as Tuchel

[Strike 7,492]

 

 

[MoroccanBlue 5,383]

29 minutes ago, Strike said:

Tuchel wanted Matthijs de Ligt, Raphinha, Frenkie de Jong and Presnel Kimpembe. He did not want Kounde and Ronaldo which were broadly the right decisions for me. The club also reportedly drew up plans for a 4-4-3 formation - some amateur stuff happening if true.

All the club briefings on the sacking point to a broken relationship and I have no qualms with the decision. But to say Todd and co. are doing a good job after this transfer window is a big leap for me. I feel they have the enthusiasm and the best interests at heart but I am not convinced they are going to run this club efficiently yet. They have to be held accountable for this summer as much as Tuchel

Genuinely all 4 players were an impossibility. 

- de Ligt was Bayern bound given the already established relationship between his agency and Bayern. 

- De Jong is a simp. 

- Raphinha only wanted Barcelona and its the very reason Arteta didn't even bother. 

- Kimpembe didn't want to leave PSG. 

 

We brought in Sterling, Aubameyang, Zakaria, Koulibaly, Fofana Cucurella in one window and managed to get rid of Werner, Lukaku, and Alonso. To suggest Boehly and Co didn't a good job is nothing short of an emotional response. 

Also, please tell me you don't buy that a multi billionaire sports enthusiast wanted to field 12 players on the pitch. 

 

[Strike 7,492]

33 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Genuinely all 4 players were an impossibility. 

- de Ligt was Bayern bound given the already established relationship between his agency and Bayern. 

- De Jong is a simp. 

- Raphinha only wanted Barcelona and its the very reason Arteta didn't even bother. 

- Kimpembe didn't want to leave PSG. 

 

We brought in Sterling, Aubameyang, Zakaria, Koulibaly, Fofana Cucurella in one window and managed to get rid of Werner, Lukaku, and Alonso. To suggest Boehly and Co didn't a good job is nothing short of an emotional response. 

Also, please tell me you don't buy that a multi billionaire sports enthusiast wanted to field 12 players on the pitch. 

 

You're right - Without hindsight - Sterling, Fofana, Cucurella and Koulibaly were good pickups. But board was pushing for Ronaldo and Kounde - spending energy on those deals instead of sorting out other issues. 

About the 4-3-3 - It sounds incredulous but also don't see why Athletic would be reporting if they hadn't heard about this. Sounds like a very strange detail to be making up

[YorkshireBlue 3,279]

14 minutes ago, Strike said:

You're right - Without hindsight - Sterling, Fofana, Cucurella and Koulibaly were good pickups. But board was pushing for Ronaldo and Kounde - spending energy on those deals instead of sorting out other issues. 

About the 4-3-3 - It sounds incredulous but also don't see why Athletic would be reporting if they hadn't heard about this. Sounds like a very strange detail to be making up

Kounde would of come aswell as KK and Fofana, would of helped Silva with resting time, Ronaldo was a pure profit move, the shirt sales and other merch would have pulled so much money, could potentially of paid for the transfer window.

[Superblue 6,372]

Something relating to this 4-4-3 story probably did happen but it's the sort of thing that should be completely laughed off, a bit of a joke made of it inside the walls of a private meeting and off you go.

It's a silly mistake but I've seen plenty of people on here post their mock line ups for the next game and either leave a player out or put one too many in.

If that is something that has truly irked Tuchel and been leaked as a result, then it feels a bit petty to me and probably emphasises a situation where Tuchel and the board just simply weren't getting along.

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

Tuchel wanted Matthijs de Ligt, Raphinha, Frenkie de Jong and Presnel Kimpembe. He did not want Kounde and Ronaldo which were broadly the right decisions for me. The club also reportedly drew up plans for a 4-4-3 formation - some amateur stuff happening if true.

All the club briefings on the sacking point to a broken relationship and I have no qualms with the decision. But to say Todd and co. are doing a good job after this transfer window is a big leap for me. I feel they have the enthusiasm and the best interests at heart but I am not convinced they are going to run this club efficiently yet. They have to be held accountable for this summer as much as Tuchel

That 4-4-2 story has been debunked. 

[ZAPHOD2319 4,819]

4 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Something relating to this 4-4-3 story probably did happen but it's the sort of thing that should be completely laughed off, a bit of a joke made of it inside the walls of a private meeting and off you go.

It's a silly mistake but I've seen plenty of people on here post their mock line ups for the next game and either leave a player out or put one too many in.

If that is something that has truly irked Tuchel and been leaked as a result, then it feels a bit petty to me and probably emphasises a situation where Tuchel and the board just simply weren't getting along.

Sadly Tuchel or his people put out a similar story when he was sacked at Dortmund. The spin from both sides is tiresome. It is time to move on. Sadly people will keep repeating this 4-4-2 story. 

[Fernando 6,585]

9 hours ago, DDA said:

Please explain ? 

Imagine if they had come in and not spent a penny in the summer after losing key figures of the first team. 

Imagine if they had sat around watching TT self destruct on and off the pitch whilst we are getting battered on it. 

Imagine keeping the old regime on board after the absolute clown show they had turned us into.

Imagine knowing that one of the brightest prospects in football management was still at a club where his services were ataibable and striking to get him before one of the other big clubs were to make a move. 

Imagine planning for the future by purchasing some of the hottest youth prospects in Europe with a view to bolster an already incredible youth system.

Just Imagine.... all of those objectives being met within 3 months and yet still Chelsea fans are moaning! 

Truly Bizarre.

 

That they sack a world class manager because he did not want Ronaldo us truly clueless. 

[Vesper 30,219]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

That they sack a world class manager because he did not want Ronaldo us truly clueless. 

it was far more than that, to reduce it to that as the main reason is just silly

have you been watching our offence for ages?

[Magic Lamps 11,692]

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

it was far more than that, to reduce it to that as the main reason is just silly

have you been watching our offence for ages?

For sure but every reason presented so far sounds weak…

- had different transfer targets … yeah and rightly so. We can thank TT for years for us not having signed Kounde or Ronaldo 

- did not respond the to WhatsApp messages… many ppl don’t, just give him a call

- the new ownership wanted their own man…. Understandable but when you have one of the best coaches in the world maybe give him a proper try first

- disconnect with the players … the gravest one but I think that one gets blown out of proportion. He still looked on good terms with the most Important ones. There are always a few rotten apples

- terrible football and lack of motivation. Surely a bigger deal but we had such a slump under Sarri as well and somehow pulled thru. Players are spoilt brats these days but when you think you only get them back to speed with hiring a new manager you are only kicking the cab down the road

 

Truth is we were never gonna challenge for the PL title with city still going this strong for the next few years. With or without TT. But if I had to pick one manager to deliver consistent top 4 finishes and maximize the cup runs it would be TT. Potter is a far bigger downside risk with no added upside. 

[Thor 2,717]

On 11/09/2022 at 09:31, Fernando said:

The way they are running the club is very amateurish to me. I see nothing but trouble coming in the horizon. 

 

Their approach at the Dodgers is lauded and heralded as a massive positive. 

They've been extremely successful since taking over there. They clearly know how to run a club. 

 

Tuchel is a polarising figure. No ways around it. It wasn't deemed as effective for them long term, and to be honest the brand of football we were playing wasn't great.