cfccrost 23 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 As i see, he tries to play 3-4-1-2 or 3-4-3 with Kai on the left wing When we were the CL winner we played 3-4-3 but it was played in a way where the front 3 were fluid. This season front 3 is rigid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turgi 71 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 Give the man another 300 million dollars to burn, he's building a great squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,511 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 is Tuchel losing the dressing room? the players look lethargic as fuck bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laylabelle 9,536 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 13 minutes ago, Johnnyeye said: is Tuchel losing the dressing room? the players look lethargic as fuck I never get that argument. Fair enough dont like the manager but dont sod over the fans who make the effort,pay the money,travel all that way to go and see it!! It matters to them too! Johnnyeye 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Armour 4,448 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, Johnnyeye said: is Tuchel losing the dressing room? the players look lethargic as fuck Feels that way. Especially if you see the craptastic performances from Mount and Pulisic. And who knows how the forced departures of Werner and Lukaku (needed, no doubt) have weighed on the squad.. I'm always on the managers side in these situations, but I really fear the worst. 2 losses in the first 4 games? This had vibes of the 2015 2016 season. Seriously, fuck off 2022. This year has just been miserable for us since the beginning. Sanctions, loss of Roman, players departing and now this. Just fuck off. Johnnyeye and bigbluewillie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyeye 7,511 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Blue Armour said: Feels that way. Especially if you see the craptastic performances from Mount and Pulisic. And who knows how the forced departures of Werner and Lukaku (needed, no doubt) have weighed on the squad.. I'm always on the managers side in these situations, but I really fear the worst. 2 losses in the first 4 games? This had vibes of the 2015 2016 season. Seriously, fuck off 2022. This year has just been miserable for us since the beginning. Sanctions, loss of Roman, players departing and now this. Just fuck off. and losing 2 cup finals to the scousers 😡 Blue Armour and Laylabelle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blahblahblah 73 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 7 minutes ago, Laylabelle said: I never get that argument. Fair enough dont like the manager but dont sod over the fans who make the effort,pay the money,travel all that way to go and see it!! It matters to them too! I can attest from personal experience that it's not something you do consciously. You want to put in your max effort, you want to be your best version despite everything in and around you. But when you lack that faith and confidence in the manager, and in what you are doing as a group and team, you are a split second slower to make a pass, or to tackle or whatever. And that makes a hell of a difference. I did not play anywhere near to PL level of football, but if the players have lost trust in TT and what he is doing and we continue to stick by him, then expect this to be a loooonnnng season. Every match is going to be a drag. Even our wins against Everton and Leicester were drags. I would honestly write off 2022, while hoping TT can change things around, but start with the manager shortlist by the end of the year. It's more essential than any transfer we can realistically make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NikkiCFC 8,337 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 57 minutes ago, blahblahblah said: Are we still going to pretend that TT is not to be questioned/blamed? Sorry, but i just hope our board is making a list of suitors to replace him by the start of 2023. He has been pathetic from day one in his Chelsea career apart from 7 CL games in knockout stage. And even there we had open road to the final. Fa Cup itself is enough for me to sack him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) Questions are being asked and rightly so. It's a shambles. Every fucking week I tune in hoping to see a nice little 3 or 4-0 win but you just know deep down in your heart of hearts, it's either a 1-0 win or an embarrassing loss. After most games these days I don't get even get mad... I just accept that we are shit but tonight is snapping point... you cannot say that midfield isn't a problem when it's been a problem for years. You're hanging yourself mate... Edited August 30, 2022 by DDA bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) I mean Havertz and Mount on the wings? Who the fuck does that? This clown. Edited August 30, 2022 by DDA bigbluewillie and blahblahblah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, DDA said: Questions are being asked and rightly so. It's a shambles. Every fucking week I tune in hoping to see a nice little 3 or 4-0 win but you just know deep down in your heart of hearts, it's either a 1-0 win or an embarrassing loss. After most games these days I don't get even get mad... I just accept that we are shit but tonight is snapping point... you cannot say that midfield isn't a problem when it's been a problem for years. You're hanging yourself mate... A blind man can see our midfield is a shambles jorgi shit Gallagher shit RLC shit Kante his prime has been and long gone. Kova let's be honest he's not the answer! Play the new lad from villa! Why not wtf does jorgi actually bring to this team apart from back passes and sheer defensive failure. Johnnyeye and blahblahblah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YorkshireBlue 3,279 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 10 minutes ago, DDA said: I mean Havertz and Mount on the wings? Who the fuck does that? This clown. Only wing havertz should be on is a fucking plane wing strapped on to the fucker and sent back to Germany or Any where stupid enough to take him! Next generational talent my fucking arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDA 9,941 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 12 minutes ago, Kong said: A blind man can see our midfield is a shambles jorgi shit Gallagher shit RLC shit Kante his prime has been and long gone. Kova let's be honest he's not the answer! Play the new lad from villa! Why not wtf does jorgi actually bring to this team apart from back passes and sheer defensive failure. I honestly have no idea why he isn't letting Chukwuemeka have minutes along with Broja. It's not fucking on. I was Tuchels biggest fan for a very long time and respected what he done in the CL but enough is enough. Fucking unreal. bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blues11 213 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) We made top 4 under frank with Puli-Giroud-Willian as our front three... Pretty much the same players we have now. Yes we need some improvements but should we really lack this much energy and heart because of transfers? Sometimes change is all you need and when Tuchel took over I think it was the perfect storm. Frank wasn't ready and the players responded to Tuchel. We went on a run of fantastic defensive football but now teams have figured us out. Plain and simple. That voice in the dressing room starts to fade when doubt creeps in from the players. I really feel that has happened and I'm not sure much will change. He continues to make excuses in his post game pressers yet he plays players out of position and cries about transfers and injuries after. I'm sick of him tbh. We have been poor for a VERY long time under him. The CL title has shielded him from much criticism but if things don't change he deserves to be sacked and rightfully so. Edited August 30, 2022 by Blues11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Hermione said: No matter who you bring in this club can't play attacking football. Like a deep rooted curse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoroccanBlue 5,385 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Kong said: Only wing havertz should be on is a fucking plane wing strapped on to the fucker and sent back to Germany or Any where stupid enough to take him! Next generational talent my fucking arse. We got Marko Marin’ed. Big time. Edited August 30, 2022 by MoroccanBlue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didi007 69 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 46 minutes ago, Blues11 said: We made top 4 under frank with Puli-Giroud-Willian as our front three... Pretty much the same players we have now. Yes we need some improvements but should we really lack this much energy and heart because of transfers? Sometimes change is all you need and when Tuchel took over I think it was the perfect storm. Frank wasn't ready and the players responded to Tuchel. We went on a run of fantastic defensive football but now teams have figured us out. Plain and simple. That voice in the dressing room starts to fade when doubt creeps in from the players. I really feel that has happened and I'm not sure much will change. He continues to make excuses in his post game pressers yet he plays players out of position and cries about transfers and injuries after. I'm sick of him tbh. We have been poor for a VERY long time under him. The CL title has shielded him from much criticism but if things don't change he deserves to be sacked and rightfully so. If Roman was still the owner he would definitely be on his way out bigbluewillie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
didi007 69 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Blues11 said: Look at our schedule so far and how many points we have dropped. I don't want to hear about injuries and transfers..... If you're such a great manager these are games you at least get a point... You should be getting three but have straight up lost twice already. They're playing with no passion or heart. That's the sign of a dressing room who don't believe in what's going on.... Alarming to say the least. All your attacking players want to leave or have left. Werner, Lukaku, CHO, Ziyech etc. We all thought Lukaku was the problem. He had his faults but not fully to blame... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clockwork 1,794 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 26 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Like a deep rooted curse. Sarri was building that, we improved by the end of the year. He just needed better FB than Azpi and Alonso. We are losing to Leeds and Southampton, can’t convince me that is okay with the players we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gundalf 806 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Clockwork said: Sarri was building that, we improved by the end of the year. He just needed better FB than Azpi and Alonso. We are losing to Leeds and Southampton, can’t convince me that is okay with the players we have. Its a Chelsea thing. We turn to shit after a great success all the time, until the manager gets fired. We were PL champions 2015, we were shit 2016. We were PL champions 2017, we were shit 2018. We won the CL 2021, we are shit since then. Its a Chelsea thing. Edited August 31, 2022 by Gundalf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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