Popular Post Tomo 21,042 Posted May 23 Popular Post Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, Hashishi said: I think we got really lucky that year. We rode the hype of beating Madrid and Pep overthought his tactics in the final. We weren't the best team in Europe that year, we had an easy route compared to others. I give a lot of credit to Lamps as well for blooding in and sticking with the youngsters. Sorry but absolute bollox was the UCL win lucky in anyway shape or form. We absolutely battered both Madrid sides, were comfortable against Porto and if anything should have won the final by even more than 1. We equalled the UCL goals allowed record and were behind for a grand total of five minutes for the entire tournament, four in a dead rubber group game and one in a second leg match we were winning comfortably overall. It's bad enough this nonsense comes from rival fans. 9 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Beigl 1,377 Posted May 23 Popular Post Share Posted May 23 Not to mention we beat City three times in 5 weeks in 2021, so the UCL final win wasn´t a one-off like many people claim. 5 Link to post Share on other sites
gdlk 173 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Lol the more i read the more i think american ppl dont understand that thing called football! Just compare Tuchel with Ragnik and you will see the difference. For back 4 he needs to have the right CBs.. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
MoroccanBlue 4,269 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 11 minutes ago, gdlk said: Lol the more i read the more i think american ppl dont understand that thing called football! Just compare Tuchel with Ragnik and you will see the difference. For back 4 he needs to have the right CBs.. Right midfielders also. Link to post Share on other sites
Clockwork 1,481 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, gdlk said: Lol the more i read the more i think american ppl dont understand that thing called football! Just compare Tuchel with Ragnik and you will see the difference. For back 4 he needs to have the right CBs.. I don’t recognize the irrelevant flag of your country, so I wouldn’t be able to insult you. Rudigar, AC, and Azpi all have expiring contracts. Back 4 is the norm in football, the majority of teams are able to field it. The situation is giving the opportunity to recruit those players. Link to post Share on other sites
Clockwork 1,481 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 1 hour ago, Tomo said: Sorry but absolute bollox was the UCL win lucky in anyway shape or form. We absolutely battered both Madrid sides, were comfortable against Porto and if anything should have won the final by even more than 1. We equalled the UCL goals allowed record and were behind for a grand total of five minutes for the entire tournament, four in a dead rubber group game and one in a second leg match we were winning comfortably overall. It's bad enough this nonsense comes from rival fans. I personally never understand the luck argument, or when players, managers, fans, etc argue the result wasn’t fair or they deserved better. Our 2012 CL was no lucky either, many years of success and failures lead to that. In fact that team was less lucky, if you consider losing to penalty against United years ago, Andres Iniesta late equalizer that sent that to the final. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Vesper 23,966 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 12 hours ago, Clockwork said: I don’t recognize the irrelevant flag of your country, so I wouldn’t be able to insult you. Rudigar, AC, and Azpi all have expiring contracts. Back 4 is the norm in football, the majority of teams are able to field it. The situation is giving the opportunity to recruit those players. lol, now you are shitting on Bulgaria? LOLOL they produced a player who is 20 times better than anything the septics ever churned out, and the US has hundreds of millions of people Hristo Stoichkov Ballon d'Or winner Honours Player CSKA Sofia A Group: 1986–87, 1988–89, 1989–90 Bulgarian Cup: 1984–85, 1986–87, 1987–88, 1988–89 Bulgarian Supercup: 1989 Barcelona La Liga: 1990–91, 1991–92, 1992–93, 1993–94, 1997–98 Copa del Rey: 1996–97 Supercopa de España: 1992, 1994, 1996 European Cup/UEFA Champions League: 1991–92 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 1996–97 European Super Cup: 1992, 1997 Al-Nassr Asian Cup Winners' Cup: 1997–98 Chicago Fire U.S. Open Cup: 2000 Bulgaria FIFA World Cup (4th place) 1994 Individual Ballon d'Or: 1994 European Golden Shoe: 1990 UNICEF European Footballer of the Season: 1991–92 FIFA World Player of the Year Silver Ball: 1992, 1994 FIFA World Cup Golden Shoe: 1994 FIFA World Cup Bronze Ball: 1994 FIFA World Cup All-Star Team: 1994 Onze d'Or: 1992 Onze d'Argent: 1994 IFFHS World's Top Goal Scorer: 1994 FIFA 100: 2004 World Soccer's 100 Greatest Players of the 20th Century: 2007 Golden Foot: 2007, as football legend Bulgarian Footballer of the Year: 1989, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1994 Bulgarian League Top Scorer: 1989, 1990 European Cup Winners' Cup Top Scorer: 1989 Don Balón Award Best tip in La Liga: 1994 Bulgarian Sportsperson of the Year: 1994 UEFA Euro Team of the Tournament: 1996 "Excellence Guirlande D'Honneur" and he entered in the FICTS "Hall of Fame". UEFA Jubilee Awards – Greatest Bulgarian Footballer of the last 50 Years: 2004 The only Player to win the European and Asian Edition of the Cup Winners Cup. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Milan 17,592 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Just saw the post season stats and this one stands out - 63 matches played, only 8 defeats. It is the draws (17) that killed our chances. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
lucio 4,488 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Legend , hope he stops the 5 at the back for next season , I’d rather a 4-3-3 like his psg 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 6,201 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 On 24/05/2022 at 18:22, Milan said: Just saw the post season stats and this one stands out - 63 matches played, only 8 defeats. It is the draws (17) that killed our chances. Sign of a conservative strategy Link to post Share on other sites
manpe 10,629 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 12 hours ago, lucio said: Legend , hope he stops the 5 at the back for next season , I’d rather a 4-3-3 like his psg All depends on the players he will have at his disposal I suppose. If Chelsea team consisted only of players that PSG, City or Liverpool have, no way would he be playing 5 atb. It was never his go-to formation at Dortmund or PSG, only at Chelsea did he make it his main one for reasons that we saw under Lampard. We need at least 2 CBs who can play in 4 atb formation without being babysitted and a proper DMF in front of them (Jorginho is not it)... Somewhy I doubt we can pull them all off this summer, we will probably need one more summer transfer window. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Blues Forever 1,017 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) 3 minutes ago, manpe said: All depends on the players he will have at his disposal I suppose. If Chelsea team consisted only of players that PSG, City or Liverpool have, no way would he be playing 5 atb. It was never his go-to formation at Dortmund or PSG, only at Chelsea did he make it his main one for reasons that we saw under Lampard. We need at least 2 CBs who can play in 4 atb formation without being babysitted and a proper DMF in front of them (Jorginho is not it)... Somewhy I doubt we can pull them all off this summer, we will probably need one more summer transfer window. The funny thing is Jorginho was great in 4-3-3 either with Italy or Napoli. Edited May 29 by Blues Forever 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MoroccanBlue 4,269 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 26 minutes ago, Blues Forever said: The funny thing is Jorginho was great in 4-3-3 either with Italy or Napoli. But international football is vastly slower than the Premier league. It's more tactical. Same with Serie A. It has 40 year old's winning the golden boot so that gives another indication of how slow the league is in comparison to the Prem. Link to post Share on other sites
Blues Forever 1,017 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 (edited) 11 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: But international football is vastly slower than the Premier league. It's more tactical. Same with Serie A. It has 40 year old's winning the golden boot so that gives another indication of how slow the league is in comparison to the Prem. The thing is Jorginho can function with the right setup and personnel beside him. With Italy he have Barella, Verratti, Locatelli to offer extra protection and allowing to maximize his strength. Edited May 29 by Blues Forever Link to post Share on other sites
MoroccanBlue 4,269 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Just now, Blues Forever said: The thing is Jorginho can function with the right setup and personnel. With Italy he have Barella, Verratti, Locatelli to offer extra protection and allowing to maximize his strength. I'm sure he can but at what cost? Italy won the Euros but this is also the same Italy that failed to qualify for the world cup. 2nd straight time. 7 defensive minded players on the pitch with only one coherent attacker (Chiesa) I think we have done the best we possibly can with Jorginho in the XI. Link to post Share on other sites
Blues Forever 1,017 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 Just now, MoroccanBlue said: I'm sure he can but at what cost? Italy won the Euros but this is also the same Italy that failed to qualify for the world cup. 2nd straight time. 7 defensive minded players on the pitch with only one coherent attacker (Chiesa) I think we have done the best we possibly can with Jorginho in the XI. Italy failed was more to with their shite attacker. Apart from Chiesa none of them are world class. Link to post Share on other sites
Clockwork 1,481 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 For me this is my biggest issue with Tuchel Link to post Share on other sites
MoroccanBlue 4,269 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 Can anyone confirm if we were closer to City/Liverpool in chance creation under Lampard? Still think 5 defenders and two conservative central midfielders primarily the reason. Link to post Share on other sites
Kong 1,575 Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 40 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said: Can anyone confirm if we were closer to City/Liverpool in chance creation under Lampard? Still think 5 defenders and two conservative central midfielders primarily the reason. I think the reason is tuchel team is bascally assorted from every other managers play style, our biggest problem is we never kept a manager long enough to build a team. 1 or 2 players here n there they get sacked next manager adds 2 or 3 with a different style so on and so forth. Hopefully we will be able to watch a manager build a team around how he wants to play and not just work with 4 others managers players. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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