Super Frank Thread

[Blue Armour 4,278]

37 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

Some members' behaviour on here is just shambolic.

First, we are not in a relegation fight and will not even be close to going down even if we lose all remaining matches. FFS get a grip. All this doom-wallowing is disgusting. Spending 600m on a world cup winning team and ending up lower half of the table is bad enough. We have to face it as it is, no need to talk it up or down. There are even harsher times ahead for this club but we will not be relegated in the forseeable future.

Second, while he is obviously not a good coach and the wrong person at the wrong time for the job this is by no mean Lamps's fault only. He is clearly out of his depth and unable to turn things around but the problems we have do indeed predate him. Lampard should get his share of blame for the poor recent results and craven lineups but he doesn not deserve to be singled out as a scapegoat for the crisis we have been in for months. If there is one person to bear this responsibility it is Boehly. He storms into the dressing room and plays little emperor, buys shit players till the chaging room bursts, hands out crazy contracts, fires competent staff and hires amateurs. Lampard took the emergency call to help his club - foolish enough but noble nonetheless. As clueless a coach as he might be he still deserves our respect as a true blue and as our best ever player.

To top it off Boehly and co. have even reinstated the physio they fired last year.

Shows how shambolic their decision making has been.

They really need to make amends next season 

[DH1988 1,273]

Frank hasn’t improved markedly since his Derby days, fundamental issues are still present in all his teams since, albeit not a huge pool, it’s a fair statement. Elevated sense of self is all I think when I listen to his interviews about issues predating him etc etc 

I know this isn’t related but I saw Frank and Petr on my flight to Stuttgart years ago, day after we got beat by United, Petr was fine with the people who recognised him, Frank had the hump by it all, fans this, fans that, players need to understand Chelsea this, Chelsea that, yawn, spin the other one, I’ll be shocked if he gets another job, interview today with a little dig praising Arsenal as they stuck with Arteta but another club may have changed manager two or three times - Heard on the radio from a presenter so I can’t direct quote.

Either way, get out Frank.

[NikkiCFC 7,942]

We would get relegated if he arrived a couple of games earlier. 

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

He said “Arsenal are still in the title race” - no shit Sherlock its only ever been them and City. 

[manpe 10,861]

9 hours ago, DH1988 said:

I know this isn’t related but I saw Frank and Petr on my flight to Stuttgart years ago, day after we got beat by United, Petr was fine with the people who recognised him, Frank had the hump by it all

Can you explain what that means? What did Frank do?

[Vesper 28,779]

45 minutes ago, manpe said:

Can you explain what that means? What did Frank do?

it means he got annoyed at people coming up to him

[Vesper 28,779]

if he can beat Arse (which pretty much will guarantee they lose the title) AND beat Manure (hopefully knocking them out of the CL), I will be satisfied with his brief spell this time

granted, HUGE ifs, lolol, and we probably will get hammered in both matches, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[NikkiCFC 7,942]

He said that Roman's hire and fire policy costed him trophies as a player. He won 3 PL but he feels he would have 5 or 6 if we had long term manager. Probably thinks about Mourinho. 

[Blue Armour 4,278]

3 hours ago, Vesper said:

if he can beat Arse (which pretty much will guarantee they lose the title) AND beat Manure (hopefully knocking them out of the CL), I will be satisfied with his brief spell this time

granted, HUGE ifs, lolol, and we probably will get hammered in both matches, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Lol..I keep joking that he has a better record against Arteta than Tuchel did.

Imagine if history actually repeats itself 

[Magic Lamps 11,653]

4 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

He said that Roman's hire and fire policy costed him trophies as a player. He won 3 PL but he feels he would have 5 or 6 if we had long term manager. Probably thinks about Mourinho. 

He is right tho. I think Mourinho mk I had one more good season in him. We finished just 2 points short of ManUre s best ever season with fkin Grant as manager and showed in Moscow we could dominate Utd.
 And who knows what Carlo could have done with a bit more time. His sack was unfair given the amount of injuries we had plus we severely underinvested in summer 2010 after deco and Ballack left. 
Still I think with that amazing team we had 2005 to 2010 we could have easily won 5/6 titles if we had not had the most formidable rival in SAF and the best ManUre side ever. Plus we should have won it in 2014 

Believe me, I am just as pissed as the next guy at how a disappointment Frank is as our manager but let’s never forget his greatness as a player. Still for me our most important player ever and greatest midfielder in PL history. 

Edited May 2, 2023 by Magic Lamps

[Laylabelle 9,351]

9 hours ago, Vesper said:

if he can beat Arse (which pretty much will guarantee they lose the title) AND beat Manure (hopefully knocking them out of the CL), I will be satisfied with his brief spell this time

granted, HUGE ifs, lolol, and we probably will get hammered in both matches, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Ahahahah unfortunately...we can't score a goal!! Be nice to be Arsenal..dont think beating Man U make a difference cause they're comfy. Prob somehow beat City and help Arsenal somehow..

 

[Vesper 28,779]

2 hours ago, Laylabelle said:

Ahahahah unfortunately...we can't score a goal!! Be nice to be Arsenal..dont think beating Man U make a difference cause they're comfy. Prob somehow beat City and help Arsenal somehow..

 

Manure lucked out with that draw v spuds and then the 1 nil win over Villa

IF villa had just drew  the game (which I really thooght would happen) then this was my logic to how Manire could have missed out on the CL:

Brighton has game in hand and they play Manure

IF Brighton beats manure

if we also beat Manure, and they would have needed just one more loss to end up on 70

if Brighton losses to Citeh and wins out (which certainly COULD happen, although it is still pretty hard) on the rest they would end up on 70 as well

and they have a far better GD than Manure (+11 higher with a game in hand)

but it will be so hard now for Brighton to catch them, after thsoe 4 points that Manure scraped out in the last 2 games

they likely will have to win ALL of their games now

which would put them on 73

then, IF you assume the same scenario for Manure as above (3 losses, us, Brigton, and a third team, or Brighton and two other teams if we, as is likely, get smashed v Manure)

they end up on 72 and miss out on CL,

provided NUFC wins 2 and at least draws one (which puts them on 72 as well, and their GD is even better than Brighton, they are untouchable for Manure, as NUFC are +24 over them)

the massive games for all that to even remotely be possible are Brighton v Manure and Brighton v Citeh

(plus several other games that cerainly would aid it, like all the other BHA games, and then Manure losing 2 other games, which is where my whole 'Chels can wreck Arse and wreck Manure' thing came from from weeks ago)

IF we beat Arse and lose to Citeh, Citeh can still easily take a loss v Brighton and still coast to the title over Arse (Citeh would end up on 91, and the most Arse coud have if that all happens is 84 points, and likely could end up on only 81)

[Vesper 28,779]

10 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

He said that Roman's hire and fire policy costed him trophies as a player. He won 3 PL but he feels he would have 5 or 6 if we had long term manager. Probably thinks about Mourinho. 

the uttlery, horribly disastrous (on every level, in all 5 comps, plus we blew the shots at playing in (and VERY likely winning) the Super Cup and the FIFA World Club Cup the next season) 2007-2008)

It was the only season I consider we truly blew the EPL title (lost to Manure by 2 points) and then to make it worse, Moscow happened, GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

PLUS we lost to fucking SPUDS 2 1 in the League Cup final on that cunt Jonathan Woodgate's extra time goal off the deflection, after Wayne Bridge had the handball pen that let Spuds draw even in regular time

plus we lost the Community shield on pens, also to Manure, smdh, and not just lost on pens, we missed EVERY ONE we took, includng Lamps

4 runners up finishes, 3 to manure then one to spuds, the two teams on the planet I hate the most

3 of the 4 on pens or in extra time!!

and we lost to fucking BARNSLEY in the FA Cup, ffs (the final that season was the two worst teams combined in a FA Cup final in my life, (Cardiff City lost one nil to Portsmouth!)

the most tragic season of all the Roman years BY FAR, in fact the most tragic Chels season ever, given that we so easily could have won EIGHT linear trophies (5 in 2007/08 then the CS in 2008, and the Super Cup (we would have beaten Zenit), and to close it out, the FWCC (we would have coasted to the win, the field was close to the weakest one ever, with a shit LDU Quito side from Ecuador making the final)

(it would have ended at 8 straight trophies as even though we won the FA Cup in 2008/09, we did not win the league, nor the League Cup in 2008/09), BUT we would have been the first club in football history to ever do 8 trophies in a row (Barca later came close, and so did Real, but they both cocked it up and they only would have had 7 linear trophies, as La Liga doesnt have a secondary cup)

that season was almsot almost Neverkusen level (it was damn close, and if we had blown the FA Cup final it would have been worse, actually)

I was far more gutted that season than I am for this one (especially the CL and the league, plus losing a final to SPUDS)

Edited May 2, 2023 by Vesper

[DH1988 1,273]

Terrible post match interview, sounds like a pundit describing the team that’s easy to play against, no closing the space etc your job is to, at least, motivate and get the extra yard out, if nothing else in this whacky interim period.

 

Fast forward, please, the one positive is that Frank will/should never get another managers job. As I said, hasn’t improved markedly since Derby, just look at our set piece setup today.

[OneMoSalah 8,776]

Yep. He talks a good game but he’s fucking hopeless. Couldn’t manage a piss up in a brewery. 

[Mário César 975]

10 hours ago, Vesper said:

the uttlery, horribly disastrous (on every level, in all 5 comps, plus we blew the shots at playing in (and VERY likely winning) the Super Cup and the FIFA World Club Cup the next season) 2007-2008)

It was the only season I consider we truly blew the EPL title (lost to Manure by 2 points) and then to make it worse, Moscow happened, GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

PLUS we lost to fucking SPUDS 2 1 in the League Cup final on that cunt Jonathan Woodgate's extra time goal off the deflection, after Wayne Bridge had the handball pen that let Spuds draw even in regular time

plus we lost the Community shield on pens, also to Manure, smdh, and not just lost on pens, we missed EVERY ONE we took, includng Lamps

4 runners up finishes, 3 to manure then one to spuds, the two teams on the planet I hate the most

3 of the 4 on pens or in extra time!!

and we lost to fucking BARNSLEY in the FA Cup, ffs (the final that season was the two worst teams combined in a FA Cup final in my life, (Cardiff City lost one nil to Portsmouth!)

the most tragic season of all the Roman years BY FAR, in fact the most tragic Chels season ever, given that we so easily could have won EIGHT linear trophies (5 in 2007/08 then the CS in 2008, and the Super Cup (we would have beaten Zenit), and to close it out, the FWCC (we would have coasted to the win, the field was close to the weakest one ever, with a shit LDU Quito side from Ecuador making the final)

(it would have ended at 8 straight trophies as even though we won the FA Cup in 2008/09, we did not win the league, nor the League Cup in 2008/09), BUT we would have been the first club in football history to ever do 8 trophies in a row (Barca later came close, and so did Real, but they both cocked it up and they only would have had 7 linear trophies, as La Liga doesnt have a secondary cup)

that season was almsot almost Neverkusen level (it was damn close, and if we had blown the FA Cup final it would have been worse, actually)

I was far more gutted that season than I am for this one (especially the CL and the league, plus losing a final to SPUDS)

calm down a little bit

this type of things happen with almost every club

look at bayern at 2012

barça against liverpool (4-0)

milan against liverpool (3-3)

bayern against united (1999)

etc etc 

sometimes Chelsea have luck sometimes not

look at ucl 2012 campaign. it was a miracle 

Edited May 2, 2023 by Mário César

[Special Juan 27,424]

He was shite here, he was shite at Everton, what made some fucking cock womble think he was going to be fine by re-hiring the useless fucker again?

Honestly it beggars fucking belief what must go on in their brains and behind the scenes-fucking clowns

[Mário César 975]

7 hours ago, Special Juan said:

He was shite here, he was shite at Everton, what made some fucking cock womble think he was going to be fine by re-hiring the useless fucker again?

Honestly it beggars fucking belief what must go on in their brains and behind the scenes-fucking clowns

yes is a unbelieveble decision

what scared me it was Todd thinking that Lampard was unfairly sacked

Jesus christ!!!