Super Frank Thread

[Henrique 9,133]

26 minutes ago, Milan said:

While we can produce some exciting and sexy stuff up front finally, that defence is just a joke, and he fucking picks the worst players to save his ass. Good luck with that...

Pretty much down to individual quality,

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Just now, MoroccanBlue said:

Curious, how many of Saints players were away on international duty? 

Compared to us not that many I reckon

[0007 511]

Why not Erik Ten Hag? 

[killer1257 3,282]

We would never do that, Griezzman was rathger good under him. Simeone could def work here, his tactics and organiation well needed. But Yeah cant see it happening. If we dont improve come december he is gone our FL, its a race for us and udt for Poch imo.

Havertz is not a Simeone player. Havertz pressing always was horrible.
Griezmann played as a second striker. Under Simeone, werner would play his role und Tammy/Giroud would play Costa's role.
Also, we do not have the physicality for a Simeone team.

I love Simeone, but he would ruin our squad overall. 4-4-2 is the only formation he knows. Havertz is useless in that formation, just like Ziyech an many mors are.

Poch would be the one to go because he plays 4-2-3-1. Problem with Poch would be that Mount will play every game because Mount is very similar to Alli and Poch loves players like that. So Mount would play on the wings very likely for Ziyech or Puli, I could imagine.

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[Blues Forever 1,232]

4 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

We would never do that, Griezzman was rathger good under him. Simeone could def work here, his tactics and organiation well needed. But Yeah cant see it happening. If we dont improve come december he is gone our FL, its a race for us and udt for Poch imo.

His tactic made Felix look very ordinary, a defensive coach like him or Allegri isn't the right man for us now.

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1 minute ago, killer1257 said:

Havertz is not a Simeone player. Havertz pressing always was horrible.
Griezmann played as a second striker. Under Simeone, werner would play his role und Tammy/Giroud would play Costa's role.
Also, we do not have the physicality for a Simeone team.

I love Simeone, but he would ruin our squad overall. 4-4-2 is the only formation he knows. Havertz is useless in that formation, just like Ziyech an many mors are.

Poch would be the one to go because he plays 4-2-3-1. Problem with Poch would be that Mount will play every game because Mount is very similar to Alli and Poch loves players like that. So Mount would play on the wings very likely for Ziyech or Puli, I could imagine.

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I doubt Poch would do that mate, coming to Chels is another ball game compared to spurs. Overall I think Poch would do good with us, I will give Lamps till december, any of this shit keep repeating along with his in-game management and he is gone for sure.

[Sir Mikel OBE 4,919]

4 minutes ago, Henrique said:

Pretty much down to individual quality,

Exactly.

 

You cant tell me hes coached Havertz to do what he did today. Pretty much be a free man roaming and playing his game.

 

Nobody is being coached at all from the looks of it. Just individual quality getting us goals, and individuals getting exposed with no organization and lack of quality. Its not mistakes if it keeps happening. Stevie Wonder could have saw we were wide open every time they attacked in the first half, and we didnt change anything.

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3 minutes ago, Blues Forever said:

His tactic made Felix look very ordinary, a defensive coach like him or Allegri isn't the right man for us now.

His team atm is not a patch to what he had before, Simeone can do lovely footy but I agree he is likely not suited for our team.

[ZaynChelsea 423]

Sneaky bid for Bielsa?

[Tomo 21,733]

25 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

Poch and Pioli gets this defense sorted in a couple of weeks.

Would this be the same Pochettino that conceded 53 goals in his first season at Spurs?

[Azul 1,615]

I just wish our fans don't behave like Arsenal fans when it comes to criticising a manager. Remember when Wenger was managing them? Some fans were blindly supporting him while he was horrible at the latter part of his career.

Use your logic instead of bias because you loved Lamps as a Chelsea player. 

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

Exactly.

You cant tell me hes coached Havertz to do what he did today. Pretty much be a free man roaming and playing his game.

Nobody is being coached at all from the looks of it. Just individual quality getting us goals, and individuals getting exposed with no organization and lack of quality. Its not mistakes if it keeps happening. Stevie Wonder could have saw we were wide open every time they attacked in the first half, and we didnt change anything.

It's obvious that we don't exactly have a structure to how we play, be it offensively or defensively. You only have to look, for example, how we try to play out from the back under Lampard and under Sarri. 

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Just now, Tomo said:

Would this be the same Pochettino that conceded 53 goals in his first season at Spurs?

Also the same Poch that made spurs very very good and powerful, with very little big transfers.

[Tomo 21,733]

My eyes are bleeding here, we've just signed three of the best attacking players in the game at what they do, an attacking fullback and you want to appoint defensive managers like Simeone and Pochettino soon after 

If you want Lampard out atleast suggest a manager who will actually suit the players will have, Simeone with Havertz especially will make Mou/KDB look like a match made in heaven.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Tried to stay away from this thread but don't think Frank is ready at all for a real trophy challenging Chelsea squad. He still has a lot to learn and is so naïve with a lot of his in game management decisions, and he doesn't seem to be learning quickly enough. It's not surprising, this is only his third year in management. 

The question is, do we persist, allow him to grow? I'm still not seeing the blueprint in our game. I know we haven't had a lot of time this season but what philosophy, what system is SFL trying to implement? I'm not seeing promising signs just yet. 

Wish he had some more time at clubs that aren't exactly challenging straight away, so that he could hone his actual philosophy. 

He has a lot of talent at his disposal now, some managers would kill for it. He seems to be consistently getting outcoached by a lot of PL managers with less resources than him though. 

The questions is - do we give him that time to hone his tactical outlook (how do we even know this will be worth it?)

[Jase 43,479]

Scary to think that this excuse will be used every time we drop points this season...

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1 minute ago, Jason said:

Scary to think that this excuse will be used every time we drop points this season...

Fuck me is he gonna roll with the same excuses everytime? Not a good sign this imo.

[killer1257 3,282]

I doubt Poch would do that mate, coming to Chels is another ball game compared to spurs. Overall I think Poch would do good with us, I will give Lamps till december, any of this shit keep repeating along with his in-game management and he is gone for sure.

Yes, I, would go for Poch too, if Lampard does not get it right with Mendy and Silva.
But I expect that we will improve when Mendy and Silva will play more regularly.

Poch played Alli all the time as a LW, even though he is even worse at LW than AM. Lucas, who was in the form of his life, just was a sub for him,even though Lucas was the reason Poch reached CL final

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