The Conte Thread

[Italian fan 69]

Season 2013 2014 (the last in Juventus)

To improve our results in CL, the club bought 2 top strikers: Carlitos Tevez and Fernando LLorente. Furthermore, arrived also Angelo Ogbonna (he played with us 2 season).

The tactic was always the same 3-5-2

Buffon

Barzagli-Bonucci-Chiellini

Lichtsteiner- Pogba -Pirlo- Vidal -Asamoah  (but Marchisio played many times)

Tevez-LLorente (at the beginning of the season played Vucinic with Tevez)

 

We were easily champions again, because the opponents couldn’t stop our new strikers: 102 points (record). We played some matches very well (like against Lazio in Juventus Stadium 4-1 (you should see the highlights, what a nice movements without the ball)), but that was not our best year: we were too strong, so we often we played very slowly, thus many matches were very boring (like Livorno-Juventus 0-2).

 

But the big delusion came from Europe…we went out against Galatasaray in the Group Stage of CL. In that situation, Conte received many critics: we played 4 horrible matches against Galatasaray and Copenaghen, because we were very slow to move the ball and very predictable…4 indecent matches…fortunately we received 2 penalties against Copenaghen in Torino, otherwise we will probably not defeat them.

But we played also 2 great matches against Real Madrid (2-1 in Madrid, 2-2 in Torino), with a different tactic: 4-3-3

Buffon

Caseres-Barzagli-Chiellini (in Torino Bonucci)-Ogbonna (in Torino Asamoah)

Vidal -Pirlo- Pogba

Marchisio -LLorente- Tevez

We deserved the victory in either the matches, but in Madrid Chiellini was expelled and in Torino we were very unluky….

Then, there was the Europa League…a tragedy…we knew that we were the best in that competition and we thought that we could win (the final was in Torino)…but we were defeated by Benfica…in that EL, we played 8 matches (2 Trabzonspor, 2 Fiorentina, 2 Lione and 2 Benfica), but only 1 good match (the second against Trabzonspor). If you want to see a terrible match, you should see the first against Lione (the most horrible Juventus’match I have ever seen).

That was the end of Conte’s adventure in Juventus…a fantastic Scudetto, but the delusion of Europe that was huge…

I hope that now you know Conte a little better….

CIAO

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

This was a good read. Grazie mille

[kellzfresh 7,229]

47 minutes ago, Italian fan said:

Season 2013 2014 (the last in Juventus)

 

To improve our results in CL, the club bought 2 top strikers: Carlitos Tevez and Fernando LLorente. Furthermore, arrived also Angelo Ogbonna (he played with us 2 season).

 

The tactic was always the same 3-5-2

 

Buffon

 

Barzagli-Bonucci-Chiellini

 

Lichtsteiner- Pogba -Pirlo- Vidal -Asamoah  (but Marchisio played many times)

 

Tevez-LLorente (at the beginning of the season played Vucinic with Tevez)

 

We were easily champions again, because the opponents couldn’t stop our new strikers: 102 points (record). We played some matches very well (like against Lazio in Juventus Stadium 4-1 (you should see the highlights, what a nice movements without the ball)), but that was not our best year: we were too strong, so we often we played very slowly, thus many matches were very boring (like Livorno-Juventus 0-2).

 

 

 

But the big delusion came from Europe…we went out against Galatasaray in the Group Stage of CL. In that situation, Conte received many critics: we played 4 horrible matches against Galatasaray and Copenaghen, because we were very slow to move the ball and very predictable…4 indecent matches…fortunately we received 2 penalties against Copenaghen in Torino, otherwise we will probably not defeat them.

 

But we played also 2 great matches against Real Madrid (2-1 in Madrid, 2-2 in Torino), with a different tactic: 4-3-3

 

Buffon

Caseres-Barzagli-Chiellini (in Torino Bonucci)-Ogbonna (in Torino Asamoah)

Vidal -Pirlo- Pogba

Marchisio -LLorente- Tevez

 

We deserved the victory in either the matches, but in Madrid Chiellini was expelled and in Torino we were very unluky….

 

Then, there was the Europa League…a tragedy…we knew that we were the best in that competition and we thought that we could win (the final was in Torino)…but we were defeated by Benfica…in that EL, we played 8 matches (2 Trabzonspor, 2 Fiorentina, 2 Lione and 2 Benfica), but only 1 good match (the second against Trabzonspor). If you want to see a terrible match, you should see the first against Lione (the most horrible Juventus’match I have ever seen).

 

That was the end of Conte’s adventure in Juventus…a fantastic Scudetto, but the delusion of Europe that was huge…

 

I hope that now you know Conte a little better….

 

CIAO

 

This shows he was very good in the league, but was poor in Europe without the wingers he wanted at Juve 

[Italian fan 69]

19 minutes ago, kellzfresh said:

This shows he was very good in the league, but was poor in Europe without the wingers he wanted at Juve 

The problem was that he hadn't a man that could dribble, that could make a decisive dribbling...we hadn't a man like that, the midfilders were raiders (I think this is the word, in Italian is "incursori",men that run without the ball in the space)and Tevez didn't make many dribbling....so we musted score with the long passes and the movements of Vidal, Pogba and Marchisio..for this reason Conte wanted Cuadrado, that can dribble the opponent and create numerical superiority...

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

56 minutes ago, Italian fan said:

The problem was that he hadn't a man that could dribble, that could make a decisive dribbling...we hadn't a man like that, the midfilders were raiders (I think this is the word, in Italian is "incursori",men that run without the ball in the space)and Tevez didn't make many dribbling....so we musted score with the long passes and the movements of Vidal, Pogba and Marchisio..for this reason Conte wanted Cuadrado, that can dribble the opponent and create numerical superiority...

Heard he left Juventus because he felt that 3-5-2 is not the best tactic for playing in Champions League and Conte wanted to switch to 4-3-3, but in order to do that he needed two top wingers (Alexis Sanchez and one of Cuadrado/Candreva/Nani). But Juve did not want to spend much money that summer, hence he resigned. Is it true?

[Italian fan 69]

6 minutes ago, petre.ispirescu said:

Heard he left Juventus because he felt that 3-5-2 is not the best tactic for playing in Champions League and Conte wanted to switch to 4-3-3, but in order to do that he needed two top wingers (Alexis Sanchez and one of Cuadrado/Candreva/Nani). But Juve did not want to spend much money that summer, hence he resigned. Is it true?

Sincerely, there were many problems between Conte and the leadership of the club...probably after the game with Benfica there was a big wrangle...I don't think that the money were the problem...thus in that summer we bought Morata (rumors said that he was a Conte's specific request)...probably he went away from Juve because he had problems with the managers (in particular Marotta)...

[Italian fan 69]

18 minutes ago, petre.ispirescu said:

Heard he left Juventus because he felt that 3-5-2 is not the best tactic for playing in Champions League and Conte wanted to switch to 4-3-3, but in order to do that he needed two top wingers (Alexis Sanchez and one of Cuadrado/Candreva/Nani). But Juve did not want to spend much money that summer, hence he resigned. Is it true?

Obviously Juve couldn't not spend much money like the top club (today the situation is different), but I don't think that money were at the centre of the problem...though he said (after the match with Bayern in 2012-2013): "Non si può mangiare in un ristorante da 100 euro con 10 euro" (you can't eat in a 100 euro's restaurant with 10 euro)...both fans and management remembered that words and I think that game was the beginning of the end of the experience of Conte in Juve...furthermore also in 2013' summer there were words about a possible resignement...

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[AlesJuve 264]

5 hours ago, Italian fan said:

Season 2013 2014 (the last in Juventus)

 

To improve our results in CL, the club bought 2 top strikers: Carlitos Tevez and Fernando LLorente. Furthermore, arrived also Angelo Ogbonna (he played with us 2 season).

 

The tactic was always the same 3-5-2

 

Buffon

 

Barzagli-Bonucci-Chiellini

 

Lichtsteiner- Pogba -Pirlo- Vidal -Asamoah  (but Marchisio played many times)

 

Tevez-LLorente (at the beginning of the season played Vucinic with Tevez)

 

We were easily champions again, because the opponents couldn’t stop our new strikers: 102 points (record). We played some matches very well (like against Lazio in Juventus Stadium 4-1 (you should see the highlights, what a nice movements without the ball)), but that was not our best year: we were too strong, so we often we played very slowly, thus many matches were very boring (like Livorno-Juventus 0-2).

 

 

 

But the big delusion came from Europe…we went out against Galatasaray in the Group Stage of CL. In that situation, Conte received many critics: we played 4 horrible matches against Galatasaray and Copenaghen, because we were very slow to move the ball and very predictable…4 indecent matches…fortunately we received 2 penalties against Copenaghen in Torino, otherwise we will probably not defeat them.

 

But we played also 2 great matches against Real Madrid (2-1 in Madrid, 2-2 in Torino), with a different tactic: 4-3-3

 

Buffon

Caseres-Barzagli-Chiellini (in Torino Bonucci)-Ogbonna (in Torino Asamoah)

Vidal -Pirlo- Pogba

Marchisio -LLorente- Tevez

 

We deserved the victory in either the matches, but in Madrid Chiellini was expelled and in Torino we were very unluky….

 

Then, there was the Europa League…a tragedy…we knew that we were the best in that competition and we thought that we could win (the final was in Torino)…but we were defeated by Benfica…in that EL, we played 8 matches (2 Trabzonspor, 2 Fiorentina, 2 Lione and 2 Benfica), but only 1 good match (the second against Trabzonspor). If you want to see a terrible match, you should see the first against Lione (the most horrible Juventus’match I have ever seen).

 

That was the end of Conte’s adventure in Juventus…a fantastic Scudetto, but the delusion of Europe that was huge…

 

I hope that now you know Conte a little better….

 

CIAO

 

If you allow me I read a lot of exaggerations in your post.The third title was not easy roma made us work hard and is the reason why we reached the end of the season out of shape and with Vidal injured.With Copenhagen the problem was not having scored wasting more than 20 occasions .The best team is the one that wins on the field as any Juventus fan knows and not the one who thinks is stronger  Benfica at that time of the season was simply stronger than us and certainly much more smart did not steal anything.Speaking of disappointment in Europe in the two years of Conte is an exaggeration the group simply could not do more against Bayern in the first year and second year we missed a couple of games in CL for various reasons.One thing is to play with Morata, Dybala, Evra, Cuadrado, etc .. one thing to introduce you to the home of Bayern with Quagliarella,Matri,De Ceglie.We can speak of failure in Europe with the "second" Lippi and Capello certainly not under the guidance of Conte.

[Italian fan 69]

22 minutes ago, AlesJuve said:

If you allow me I read a lot of exaggerations in your post.The third title was not easy roma made us work hard and is the reason why we reached the end of the season out of shape and with Vidal injured.With Copenhagen the problem was not having scored wasting more than 20 occasions .The best team is the one that wins on the field as any Juventus fan knows and not the one who thinks is stronger  Benfica at that time of the season was simply stronger than us and certainly much more smart did not steal anything.Speaking of disappointment in Europe in the two years of Conte is an exaggeration the group simply could not do more against Bayern in the first year and second year we missed a couple of games in CL for various reasons.One thing is to play with Morata, Dybala, Evra, Cuadrado, etc .. one thing to introduce you to the home of Bayern with Quagliarella,Matri,De Ceglie.We can speak of failure in Europe with the "second" Lippi and Capello certainly not under the guidance of Conte.

Ciao, I'm glad to see another Juventus fan 

I'm not criticizing the CL that we made in 2012-2013....we won our group against 2 great teams (Chelsea and Shakhtar), we defeated Celtic and then we lost against a team that was stronger than us...honestly we couldn't defeat Bayern in those matches....I think that the first year was great, we made the best that we could....

But the second year was different...we were stronger than Galatasaray and Copenaghen (we deserved to win in Torino, but we played badly and it was a very boring game) and we showed that against Real, in 2 games that we deserved to win...

In EL we were the best team, at least looking at the names of the players...these were the formations against Benfica in Juventus Stadium

Buffon                                                                                     Oblak

Caceres-Bonucci-Chiellini                                                       Maxi Pereira-Luisao-Garay-Siqueira

Lichtsteiner-Vidal-Pirlo-Pogba-Asamoah                                    Markovic-Perez-Amorin-Gaitan

Llorente-Tevez                                                                         Lima-Rodrigo

We played badly, Perez was expelled at 65' but we weren't able to score a goal....sincerely the EL was disappointing...that was an incredible chance to win an european trophy after 20 years, but we lost....it can happen...we lost a Champion's League final against Amburgo in 1983...

Conte made a great work with us...we were 7th when he arrived and after 1 year we win the Serie A...incredible...but the second year in Europe was not good...it happens...I hope one day he will return and win the CL with us...

CIAO

[lucio 5,418]

Left out jorginho from the italy 23, just gone down in my estimations

[LAM09 7,043]

Left out jorginho from the italy 23, just gone down in my estimations [emoji20]

Juve connection in full force with most of the squad.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

3 hours ago, lucio said:

Left out jorginho from the italy 23, just gone down in my estimations

And Bonaventura, while keeping Giacherinni and Bernardeschi...

I think with Italy lacking quality striker and no real game changers (Marchisio and Verratti also out), the only chance for them to get far is with good tactical approach. We will see how will Conte prepare for each game in group of death.

[MichaelDance 552]

On 27 May 2016 at 5:47 PM, Ledgi said:

And I blame it on the guy who signed with the super big club today.

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I have to disagree with you mate, people said that at the start, he was sacked, and the players could only win a few times with Hiddink and then draw the rest, how can you blame the guy when the rest of the season we kept drawing and loosing with a odd win here and there? You said it was a title winning team, do you mean he's fault for not buying and selling in the transfer windows? If he is to blame for that why did we get weird names and Pedro (who he got)?

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

13 hours ago, lucio said:

Left out jorginho from the italy 23, just gone down in my estimations

Conte's system includes three central midfielders, one of which is a Regista, e.g. Pirlo at Juventus who was playing deeper than Pogba and Vidal.

Jorginho is a Regista and now Conte at the NT has De Rossi and Thiago Motta in that position. Jorginho would have been the 3rd choice there because in the other two central midfield positions Conte wants something different to what Jorginho has to offer. He wants constant movement, runs in behind, energy and Jorginho does not possess those characteristics, he is more of a deep lying playmaker. This is why Conte kept Florenzi, Ghiaccherini, Parolo and Sturaro for those two places.