It's too big 625 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Yeah because waiting to integrate Bakayoko is a smart idea. Then what? The same people will moan and whine how Matic is useless and would quickly want Bakayoko to take his first team place, leaving Matic sat on the bench pining for a move because he's no longer in the first team. Matic wanted to move, it was obvious from being left out of pre-season with us, and he wasn't willing to sit on the bench. We are not going to keep an unsettled player for the sake of just keeping him around, it will cause unrest. dimmas, positivefootball, Ryan Fong and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 7 minutes ago, King11Didier said: I really want to meet the person who thought selling Matic to a direct rival and bringing, probably, Drinkwater is a good idea. Can't believe there are people who actually get paid for coming up with ideas like this. Exactly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_volrath 61 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 We're pushing Conte straight into the arms of AC Milan. xPetrCechx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 20 minutes ago, Jype said: What makes people automatically think those Matic comments are a dig at the board? It might just as well be that Conte wanted to keep him but the player insisted on going with increased competition for his place so the club didn't want to keep him against his will. It's a bit of both mixed with some obvious behind the scenes tapping up from Mourinho. Conte would've wanted to keep him and we could've because he was under contract. Mourinho (or his people) were in his ear and turned his head. We know first hand how good of a salesman Mou is so he surely sold Matic on how important he'd be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jype 6,398 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 1 minute ago, Pizy said: It's a bit of both mixed with some obvious behind the scenes tapping up from Mourinho. Conte would've wanted to keep him and we could've because he was under contract. Mourinho (or his people) were in his ear and turned his head. We know first hand how good of a salesman Mou is so he surely sold Matic on how important he'd be there. Yeah, and Mourinho probably didn't even need that good of a salespitch to convince him. United are playing with a three man midfield which suits Matic's strengths much, much better than the 3-4-3 so getting a starting role there in a competitive team sounds pretty good compared to fighting for a place in the squad at Chelsea in a role he's not at his best in. As much as the board have fucked up this summer, selling Matic is not even close one of the things I'd hold against them the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluewillie 1,930 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 11 hours ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said: Winning the premier league title is the holy grail now... the prize money from winning it is WAAAAYYY more than winning the Champions League Yes but there's nothing like the prestige you get from winning the ECL, plus it don't arf make me 'appy i grinned for a year. hes1ofus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 37 minutes ago, Jype said: What makes people automatically think those Matic comments are a dig at the board? It might just as well be that Conte wanted to keep him but the player insisted on going with increased competition for his place so the club didn't want to keep him against his will. Get out, have you not read the rules? Anything to do with the board and you must act all hysterical and act like we are heading out of the football league. Belgiannutt, Jype, Barbara and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, Jype said: Yeah, and Mourinho probably didn't even need that good of a salespitch to convince him. United are playing with a three man midfield which suits Matic's strengths much, much better than the 3-4-3 so getting a starting role there in a competitive team sounds pretty good compared to fighting for a place in the squad at Chelsea in a role he's not at his best in. As much as the board have fucked up this summer, selling Matic is not even close one of the things I'd hold against them the most. Don't think many (myself included) are that upset that he was sold, more so that he was sold to a side that will instantly be improved by his joining and has the ability to directly hurt our chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Tbf for the money offered, I would have sold Matic too. He was piss poor for most of the season. Our midfield was a Kante one man show. Even a half fit Bakayoko can only do better. I'd much rather have Drinkwater, who has a better understanding with Kante anyway than Matic in my squad. Still it is not a good sign that we sell players the manage rhas in his plans and it did not seem that Matic was keen on leaving it felt more like him being pushed out. Luckily this is not a KDB/Salah/Mata/Lukaku/Bertrand etc. case were we sold too soon. economically and probably also from a technical point of view a brilliant decision to sell matic. But strategically it might come to back to haunt us if this deteroriates the relationship with Conte and the board. Ryan Fong, Barbara and bigbluewillie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,615 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Tbf for the money offered, I would have sold Matic too. He was piss poor for most of the season. Our midfield was a Kante one man show. Even a half fit Bakayoko can only do better. I'd much rather have Drinkwater, who has a better understanding with Kante anyway than Matic in my squad. Still it is not a good sign that we sell players the manage rhas in his plans and it did not seem that Matic was keen on leaving it felt more like him being pushed out. Luckily this is not a KDB/Salah/Mata/Lukaku/Bertrand etc. case were we sold too soon. economically and probably also from a technical point of view a brilliant decision to sell matic. But strategically it might come to back to haunt us if this deteroriates the relationship with Conte and the board. very soon we will see how important was matic for this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 10 minutes ago, whats happening said: very soon we will see how important was matic for this team. Yeah Matic was important in getting overrun in every bloody big game in the entire season. Important in being clumsy and slow on and off the ball, misplacing the simplest of passes and being about the most one-footed person alive. bigbluewillie, Peace., Barbara and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Knows Very Well? So why we do nothing about that?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whats happening 1,615 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 26 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said: Yeah Matic was important in getting overrun in every bloody big game in the entire season. Important in being clumsy and slow on and off the ball, misplacing the simplest of passes and being about the most one-footed person alive. he wasnt that bad. this whole narrative that kante did all the work himself is pretty annoying and stupid. and we can be worse next season. no one knows how bakayoko will end up. he can easily be worse than matic. Chelsea? and El P. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace. 4,352 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Jype said: What makes people automatically think those Matic comments are a dig at the board? It might just as well be that Conte wanted to keep him but the player insisted on going with increased competition for his place so the club didn't want to keep him against his will. "My idea was to use Matic to sweeten in Bakayoko and ultimately to bench him in a few months when the French will be ready. Unfortunately, the Serbian was having none of that and wanted to leave this club ; and, at the same time, Manchester United did bid a significant amount of money. We thus had to sell and to accelerate the process blah blah...." Indeed. Reading between the lines is cool — but there is not always things to read, between those lines. Sometimes, plain statements are, well, mere plain statements without any hidden meaning. And here, we are most certainly in one of those cases : a mere exposition, a mere statement made by Conte without any masterplan hidden behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelsea Legend 11 4,062 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Magic Lamps said: Yeah Matic was important in getting overrun in every bloody big game in the entire season. Important in being clumsy and slow on and off the ball, misplacing the simplest of passes and being about the most one-footed person alive. we won 30 games last year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonio8 736 Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 3 hours ago, Jype said: What makes people automatically think those Matic comments are a dig at the board? It might just as well be that Conte wanted to keep him but the player insisted on going with increased competition for his place so the club didn't want to keep him against his will. conte prefers different types of CM i think that a good name could be matuidi dimmas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xPetrCechx 13,570 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Chelsea manager Antonio Conte believes he needs to add to his 4 summer signings to improve the 'quality' of his squad. (BBC) #CFC RoyalBlues 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fernando 6,585 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 On 8/8/2017 at 10:44 AM, Tomo said: This Papy and Hector narrative is getting beyond boring and ignorant. Because it looks more then likely that is what will do. All summer to get targets and just now they are working hard? They will default and get just some crappy player like Hector to be sent out on loan. Tautvix and King11Didier 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,907 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 General consensus amongst pundits and journalists seems to be that we've taken a step back this summer, that we won't really compete for the title, that we made a ridiculous decision to sell Matic to United, and that Conte isn't long for the job. Hard to disagree with any of that, sadly. Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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