Jase 43,479 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Fernando 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
positivefootball 195 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 34 minutes ago, MrExcalibur100 said: Our board is doing everything to break this man. They seem to derive some joy from it. God forbid the manager ever be the most important club at Chelsea FC. Not going to happen in 1 summer. We need another 200M investment in the squad at least. Starting this January.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 32 minutes ago, positivefootball said: Not going to happen in 1 summer. We need another 200M investment in the squad at least. Starting this January.... We haven’t even spent this summer technically. We’re -30m in player sales. I think it might be time for a back 4. 433: Courtois Azpi Christensen Luiz Alonso Bakayoko Kante Fabregas Pedro Morata Hazard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Belgiannutt said: Yeah the back 5 system has been found out. Problem is that i don't think we have got the players to switch to a back four. I don't trust alonso in the left back position. He absolutely needs the cover of an extra CB. I also have my doubts about Luiz in a back four. I don't think the system is the problem. It's the lack of quality. The back 5 system did great last season as teams were struggling to deal with it. The system carried the average players in our team but not anymore. Teams have figured it out. Only answer is to add more quality. Valid points but we can't do anything about quality until January at least. Right now, we need changes from somewhere to hopefully change things around before they get even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Styles 9,790 Posted October 18, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted October 18, 2017 Typical cowardly display against a proper football team. 38% possession at home, chasing shadows for most of the game. Surely for everybody involved this must get boring at some point? It's the same story all the time: we play a decent team and we revert to our usual brand of shit on a stick and rely on disjointed counter attacks and low block. Year in year out nothing changes. Give us a fucking break for once. Damn. The Chels, The Skipper, Henrique and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Board can be blamed and a lot of it is deserved due to poor summer recruitment/lack of recruitment but tonight Antonio must take the brunt of the blame for how he set the team up and how he didn’t react to what Roma were doing. The 352 was a disaster because we sat in with a back 5 and their full backs were spare every time they had the ball until we went to a 343 and pushed up. It was blatantly obvious it wasn’t working the whole first half, he should of changed it at half time, it was painful watching us at times. Roma just pinned our wing backs back and we couldn’t get out. They looked like a real top team, they are good yes but we made it easy for them. The Skipper and Blue-in-me-Veins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Skipper 20,609 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 All you have to do to stop a Conte back 5 system is genuinely pin the wingbacks back to their own defensive third. Styles and The Chels 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, The Skipper said: All you have to do to stop a Conte back 5 system is genuinely pin the wingbacks back to their own defensive third. He's supposed to be some master tactician but keeps losing the tactical battles. It doesn't add up. The Chels 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
!Hazard! 3,394 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Should have spent that 100 million in wingbacks like City and a lot of things would be different right now but it didn't happen and here we are in midst of a crisis thinking about switching the system. Let's remember that the wingback position is arguably the most important in this system, and our players for those positions are the weakest link in this squad. Alonso and Moses/Zappacosta would have hard time making it to the starting lineup at Everton nevermind other actual top clubs. Then there is midfield which was in ruins during the games against City, Palace and Roma. It's still early days but Bakayoko doesn't seem to be the player we were looking for. The board should have bought a more mobile and more technical version of Matic but instead they bought a bigger version of Ramires. Let's hope Drinkwater turns out to be a good signing as there is still hope if he and Kante can once again form a solid midfield partnership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, The Skipper said: All you have to do to stop a Conte back 5 system is genuinely pin the wingbacks back to their own defensive third. To be fair, that's the main weakness of any back 5 system. Stop the wingbacks and you basically take away at least half of the attacking threat. And the lack of quality isn't helping either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Time for formation change, 433 or 442. Surely couldn’t be any worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWiz 109 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 hour ago, !Hazard! said: The board should have bought a more mobile and more technical version of Matic ... Aha ... And who would that be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! Strike 7,489 Posted October 19, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted October 19, 2017 What I like is that whenever the team performs badly, regardless of the result, he comes out saying we need to do better. I genuinely think that the football played by the team is leaving Conte sleepless and he's working to find a strategy that works for this squad. That's the right attitude you want to see in a manager and I will back Conte for the next two seasons. It would be a mistake to sack him King11Didier, SinineUltra, El P. and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 5 hours ago, !Hazard! said: Should have spent that 100 million in wingbacks like City and a lot of things would be different right now but it didn't happen and here we are in midst of a crisis thinking about switching the system. Let's remember that the wingback position is arguably the most important in this system, and our players for those positions are the weakest link in this squad. Alonso and Moses/Zappacosta would have hard time making it to the starting lineup at Everton nevermind other actual top clubs. Then there is midfield which was in ruins during the games against City, Palace and Roma. It's still early days but Bakayoko doesn't seem to be the player we were looking for. The board should have bought a more mobile and more technical version of Matic but instead they bought a bigger version of Ramires. Let's hope Drinkwater turns out to be a good signing as there is still hope if he and Kante can once again form a solid midfield partnership. Our nett spend this season is less than 100 m. We basically only spend on drinkwater + rudiger. Baka <> Matic Zapp <> Ake Morata <> Costa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAGreavsie 6,072 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 17 minutes ago, communicate said: Our nett spend this season is less than 100 m. We basically only spend on drinkwater + rudiger. Baka <> Matic Zapp <> Ake Morata <> Costa According to Transfermarkt, our net spend is less than £3m. That result includes their guesstimation of loan fees, but the numbers are within a margin of error so the net figure could even be in surplus. In other words, we may have made a profit this summer. Those are the facts. What the reason might be is up for debate and speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, OhForAGreavsie said: According to Transfermarkt, our net spend is less than £3m. That result includes their guesstimation of loan fees, but the numbers are within a margin of error so the net figure could even be in surplus. In other words, we may have made a profit this summer. Those are the facts. What the reason might be is up for debate and speculation. Oh I forget that we sell begovic, Cuardrado and traore. Then yes our net spending is almost nothing. So what people expect ? Us to compete with City and United where both spend over 100 M in nett spend. We all know that there are tons of position that need to be improved in this squad. I am pretty sure the board is not dumb but if they are not willing to spend any money than it is going to be a long and gruesome process. 11Drogba, kellzfresh and King11Didier 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 People talking about net spend when the issues is shit, cowardly managers who have zero imagination and ability to construct and make dominant teams. It's always the same negative, 1970s football no matter how much we spend. Henrique and Vybzkartel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post! El P. 1,354 Posted October 19, 2017 Popular Post! Share Posted October 19, 2017 I'm not fearing that he will get sack in mid-season. Hell, we waited to sack Mou until it was REALLY late, we were at the bottom of table. I'm afraid we will do "an Ancelotti" again, sack him at the end of season, because he didn't get expected result with TITLE WINNING TEAM. Yo dawg, you have a TITLE WINNING TEAM, how come you cannot win us some more of those trophy stuffs? Seriously, and this time it will be a lot harder to just bring another manager and win something - competition in league is tough this days. This time we might actually need to build great squad to win something. kellzfresh, positivefootball, Leif and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Romaaaan, wherever you may be, you are no longerrr CFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Roman's the Wenger of owners, straight up. Stop blaming everyone except the damn boss! Every season the man who should always be ultimately responsible goes untouched! Just like having a rich dad who has no concept of bonding, only of neglect MrExcalibur100 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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