The Mourinho Thread

[zolayes 14,489]

he did?

so saying that the player dint critisize the club and the comments were taken out of context counts for nothing. but simply saying that hazard should have done more for the goals is blaming the players in public. ok!!!

the strikers on canal 4 ,, hazard ,, mata ,, oscar ,,, and apparently Salah and Matic today .

[didierforever 7,349]

the strikers on canal 4 ,, hazard ,, mata ,, oscar ,,, and apparently Salah and Matic today .

oh so now we are taking into account the dailymail articles. see i dint know that!!!

hazard - just "criticism". every1 here was having a debate on how hazard fucked up for the goal

mata - his defensive liability was for every1 to see. not our player anymore so cant be bothered

oscar - so has oscar actually had a good end to the season. tomorrow people are going to critisize jose for calling a football, football. "I think he was our best player for months, from August to November or December. He was absolutely fantastic. And after that he was up and down," Mourinho explained. so saying how oscar's season actually has been is suddenly criticism.

matic and salah - first of all . secondly, even if he did do it, so what? did he do it in public. what happens in the dressing room, stays in the dressing room. saf used to throw shoes at the players to get a performance out of them. if jose says a couple of things in the privacy of the dressing room, after a horrible 45 minutes, so what?

strikers - that is the one thing that he did wrong. that was actual condemning and criticism. also, i dont think for a moment that jose dint know what he was doing. i think he did. maybe he thought the striker would get riled up and put in a performance that would not make them and us kill ourselves, but it compltely back-fired or rather nothing happened.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

Mourinho should actualy say tomorrow that he is partly guilty for such season too. Always blaming players, no striker, no goals, no tracking...

I mean, Hazard is fucking winger. Yes he should track, but he cant be only excuse for that defeat...Jose should say "there were mistakes by me and team", not "Hazard isnt 100% in the game"...

Even Guardiola, Martino admited they made mistakes and will have to do something about it..

Lets face it. Every manager in the world can say; I dont expect trophies this season, but next one. Or "we are small team, there are bigger ones out there"...thing is I didnt expect Jose to go this far in CL, but I expected at least 2nd place (not much diff between 2 and 3 but still). Only City has better team than us. As things went on this season, we had clear path to win the title. But players failed and so did Jose. If it is the players that are shit, why cant Jose motivate them? If there is no striker, why didnt Jose bought one in summer?

Finaly, this season we had plenty of shit games against small teams. We have team that MUST beat such relegation teams with or without striker. Sure, there will be defeats/draws, but generaly, we should beat small teams. Jose saw problems against Villa, saw them against Wba and Whu. What did he do? Nothing. Same players, same formation, same headless attack etc....after all those games, Jose couldnt find way vs Norwich? After like, 10 similar games, where we couldnt break opponent, jose still couldnt find a way? And thinking striker will come next season and bang 3 goals every game, saving our ass? Yeah right...

I think either we will get proper players, pass the world cup, leave that behind and truly focus on next season. Result will be winning premier league in style. Or Jose will somehow lose it and we will have another average season.

Im not blaming Mou, Im just pointing problems he has to solve. As great manager he is, he shoould fix them. Right?

[dimmas 131]

On Topic:-

I have watched our games this season and we seem to attack by spreading the ball to the wide men, waiting for them to beat their man, and then crossing or shooting. If it doesn't work, then we pass to ivanovic to cross, or we just shoot from distance. And worse of all, we do all this too slowly. Terrible tempo.

Its too simple to defend against, no combinations, I don't even see the small passing triangles I saw in the beginning of the season. No 1-2's, no link up between teammates and rare team play.

These are things practiced on the training ground. That's why even southampton players can look excellent when attacking, because their average players practice movements in training.

I think we don't do enough team combinations and it's made us look like we are over thinking in attack, slow and predictable against teams that defend deep.

I hope we get this fixed next season.

This

IF after the whole season, our combination, passing, and collective play almost didnt improve at all, so the blame is go to the manager.

our passing and collective play is awful

@darrus

can you give some link about these report ? if mourinho really tried hard to improve our collective play

[Nike 373]

Taking aside jose's defensive/negative tactics, one thing that I always thought was Mourinho was never a manager that could stay long term or want to be here long term regardless of the team.

[The only place to be 11,313]

I don't agree with everything Lionsden or MrExcalibur have said but I just think it's ridiculous that they're being treated with so little civility by a few on here when really, they haven't said anything so outrageous to warrant that kind of treatment. It's not like they've said "Mourinho will be the death of Chelsea. Sack him now". What they've said is that Mourinho has certain flaws that they don't like and they've been brave enough to verbalize them rather than follow the flock.

Cheers love. Absolutely appreciated this post. Apologies if I meaner or impugn or insult....or maybe even spell a word incorrectly (that covers me right???)

Logged on, expecting lionsden and mr excalibur and a few others to have slated this team as soon as the match finished (probably even a bit before) and I thought to myself it was a shit game. Absolutely dire. But who cares? Sunny day, Bank holiday wandering out of the Bridge heading towards the river fancying a cider - do you know what that's like? To walk out of a shitty game, moaning to a mate about spunking £60 up a wall for that? It's actually pretty funny at the end of the day. A norwich supporter can count the number of tenners they lost on one hand.

But that's football. It isn't all champagne in Munich. It isn't all open top buses, there's a few shitty results like today where the lack of a striker is self-evident and the lack of quality is fucking awful. But I got speaking to an old boy later on and he spoke about the pleasure of seeing Eden Hazard on the ball. The utter joy in his voice at seeing such a great player in the team and it got me thinking...

There's a fair few CUNTS on this forum who do nothing but slate the team. They know who they are because I've name checked a few of them. Here's the proposition.

One year from now. Henrique, lionsden, excalibur, styles, laura90, theskipper, whomever....I'll put up the cost of the servers for one year against you guys. If we win the league, you pay up EACH. If we don't, I'll pay up. You want to criticise, put your money where your mouths are or shut up.

I'm bored of the constant criticism. I look at you guys and you have nothing invested in the success of this team bar a fleeting interest in bpasting about a win on Facebook to what are surely your equally tiresome, irredeemably identical 'friends'. So here's a chance to be invested in Chelsea Football Club's success, via TalkChelsea. All six of you have to agree to it and if anyone else wants to bet against us winning the league you're welcome.

[The only place to be 11,313]

He just said in his post match conference to Sky that he didn't expect Norwich to come and sit deep... Seriously Jose?

Good thing you changed that avatar to one from about 1996 or one might have questioned you jumping on Jose's back about 25 minutes after the final whistle.

Aren't you the little politician you.

[DDA 9,983]

Cheers love. Absolutely appreciated this post. Apologies if I meaner or impugn or insult....or maybe even spell a word incorrectly (that covers me right???)

Logged on, expecting lionsden and mr excalibur and a few others to have slated this team as soon as the match finished (probably even a bit before) and I thought to myself it was a shit game. Absolutely dire. But who cares? Sunny day, Bank holiday wandering out of the Bridge heading towards the river fancying a cider - do you know what that's like? To walk out of a shitty game, moaning to a mate about spunking £60 up a wall for that? It's actually pretty funny at the end of the day. A norwich supporter can count the number of tenners they lost on one hand.

But that's football. It isn't all champagne in Munich. It isn't all open top buses, there's a few shitty results like today where the lack of a striker is self-evident and the lack of quality is fucking awful. But I got speaking to an old boy later on and he spoke about the pleasure of seeing Eden Hazard on the ball. The utter joy in his voice at seeing such a great player in the team and it got me thinking...

There's a fair few CUNTS on this forum who do nothing but slate the team. They know who they are because I've name checked a few of them. Here's the proposition.

One year from now. Henrique, lionsden, excalibur, styles, laura90, theskipper, whomever....I'll put up the cost of the servers for one year against you guys. If we win the league, you pay up EACH. If we don't, I'll pay up. You want to criticise, put your money where your mouths are or shut up.

Was enjoying the post until the last part. I think you are getting a bit carried away mate. Then again I have never understood the politics of TalkChelsea. That's why I don't post as much anymore and just read what I deem as, 'a quality read'.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Was enjoying the post until the last part. I think you are getting a bit carried away mate. Then again I have never understood the politics of TalkChelsea. That's why I don't post as much anymore and just read what I deem as, 'a quality read'.

I've expanded the last part. Felt a bit underdeveloped as spur of the moment things have a wont to do. Either way, shit result on a horrible, weird day where no-one felt up for it and it hopefully spurs us on to improve in the future.

One largely for the doom-mongers to say 'I told you so' safe in the knowledge that most people won't give a fuck if we win the league in 12 months. But such is football - Jose was a genius 7 days ago when he ran down the touchline at Anfield and every fucker with even the hint of blue in their veins was going nuts as Willian passed the ball into the goal and we broke scouse hearts.

7 days.

Fuck'em all.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

One year from now. Henrique, lionsden, excalibur, styles, laura90, theskipper, whomever....I'll put up the cost of the servers for one year against you guys. If we win the league, you pay up EACH. If we don't, I'll pay up. You want to criticise, put your money where your mouths are or shut up.

I'm bored of the constant criticism. I look at you guys and you have nothing invested in the success of this team bar a fleeting interest in bpasting about a win on Facebook to what are surely your equally tiresome, irredeemably identical 'friends'. So here's a chance to be invested in Chelsea Football Club's success, via TalkChelsea. All six of you have to agree to it and if anyone else wants to bet against us winning the league you're welcome.

I think you need to get off your high horse.

[The only place to be 11,313]

I think you need to get off your high horse.

Think you need to put your money where that big old mouth is. Be your way of financially contributing to this site either way. We've had people call Jose clueless, call him out after the match....hell I could probably find posts criticising him before the match if I actually looked in the match thread.

All it needs is one word....yes.

[DDA 9,983]

I've expanded the last part. Felt a bit underdeveloped as spur of the moment things have a wont to do. Either way, shit result on a horrible, weird day where no-one felt up for it and it hopefully spurs us on to improve in the future.

One largely for the doom-mongers to say 'I told you so' safe in the knowledge that most people won't give a fuck if we win the league in 12 months. But such is football - Jose was a genius 7 days ago when he ran down the touchline at Anfield and every fucker with even the hint of blue in their veins was going nuts as Willian passed the ball into the goal and we broke scouse hearts.

7 days.

Fuck'em all.

Being a Chelsea fan aint easy !:-D

I will say this, I hope we win the league next season so I can stick both middle fingers up at the ungreatful wankers who slate Mourinho. He is the best manager in the world and the fact he even came back was unbelievable for me. When we perform like we did yesterday against Norwich, you have to look back at similar results over the season and question Mourinhos tactics in these specific games. You may also question the whole Mata saga and ask if the sale of Juan was premature. I personally think Jose should have kept Lukaku from the start and was kinda shocked at that last minute loan move. Though despite the lack of progress in the way we play in attacking positions under Jose over the course of the season, he has improved us immensely as a unit and is, not has but is, degeloping us into a machine. With a few alterations and hard work over pre season, we will challange in all competitions on all fronts. Isn't that what he had been sayong from the start too!!! He said this will be a long term project and unfortunately with the recent nature of the way Chelsea have done their business to gain instant success, this mentality filters through into the fans noggins.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Cheers love. Absolutely appreciated this post. Apologies if I meaner or impugn or insult....or maybe even spell a word incorrectly (that covers me right???)

Logged on, expecting lionsden and mr excalibur and a few others to have slated this team as soon as the match finished (probably even a bit before) and I thought to myself it was a shit game. Absolutely dire. But who cares? Sunny day, Bank holiday wandering out of the Bridge heading towards the river fancying a cider - do you know what that's like? To walk out of a shitty game, moaning to a mate about spunking £60 up a wall for that? It's actually pretty funny at the end of the day. A norwich supporter can count the number of tenners they lost on one hand.

But that's football. It isn't all champagne in Munich. It isn't all open top buses, there's a few shitty results like today where the lack of a striker is self-evident and the lack of quality is fucking awful. But I got speaking to an old boy later on and he spoke about the pleasure of seeing Eden Hazard on the ball. The utter joy in his voice at seeing such a great player in the team and it got me thinking...

There's a fair few CUNTS on this forum who do nothing but slate the team. They know who they are because I've name checked a few of them. Here's the proposition.

One year from now. Henrique, lionsden, excalibur, styles, laura90, theskipper, whomever....I'll put up the cost of the servers for one year against you guys. If we win the league, you pay up EACH. If we don't, I'll pay up. You want to criticise, put your money where your mouths are or shut up.

I'm bored of the constant criticism. I look at you guys and you have nothing invested in the success of this team bar a fleeting interest in bpasting about a win on Facebook to what are surely your equally tiresome, irredeemably identical 'friends'. So here's a chance to be invested in Chelsea Football Club's success, via TalkChelsea. All six of you have to agree to it and if anyone else wants to bet against us winning the league you're welcome.

Yes, because all I do on here is slate the team (I've said nothing remotely negative about anyone else), and because I've never been to the Bridge or away games multiple times in my life (in fact, I've got tickets to Cardiff away next week). Get off your fucking high horse mate. Who the fuck do you think you are?

See what I mean? Saying anything remotely negative about Mourinho now equals to slating the club to some. Fan-fucking-tastic.

This has to be one of the worst posts I've ever read on here. You don't know anything about me or any of those that you've mentioned to come up with stupid shit like that. Get off your fucking pedestal and stop thinking you're some god on TC because you go watch a few games. Stupidity.

[The Skipper 20,609]

Good thing you changed that avatar to one from about 1996 or one might have questioned you jumping on Jose's back about 25 minutes after the final whistle.

Aren't you the little politician you.

Ah yes of course that's the reason. Very classy. Very, very classy.

[Strike 7,527]

Cheers love. Absolutely appreciated this post. Apologies if I meaner or impugn or insult....or maybe even spell a word incorrectly (that covers me right???)

Logged on, expecting lionsden and mr excalibur and a few others to have slated this team as soon as the match finished (probably even a bit before) and I thought to myself it was a shit game. Absolutely dire. But who cares? Sunny day, Bank holiday wandering out of the Bridge heading towards the river fancying a cider - do you know what that's like? To walk out of a shitty game, moaning to a mate about spunking £60 up a wall for that? It's actually pretty funny at the end of the day. A norwich supporter can count the number of tenners they lost on one hand.

But that's football. It isn't all champagne in Munich. It isn't all open top buses, there's a few shitty results like today where the lack of a striker is self-evident and the lack of quality is fucking awful. But I got speaking to an old boy later on and he spoke about the pleasure of seeing Eden Hazard on the ball. The utter joy in his voice at seeing such a great player in the team and it got me thinking...

There's a fair few CUNTS on this forum who do nothing but slate the team. They know who they are because I've name checked a few of them. Here's the proposition.

One year from now. Henrique, lionsden, excalibur, styles, laura90, theskipper, whomever....I'll put up the cost of the servers for one year against you guys. If we win the league, you pay up EACH. If we don't, I'll pay up. You want to criticise, put your money where your mouths are or shut up.

I'm bored of the constant criticism. I look at you guys and you have nothing invested in the success of this team bar a fleeting interest in bpasting about a win on Facebook to what are surely your equally tiresome, irredeemably identical 'friends'. So here's a chance to be invested in Chelsea Football Club's success, via TalkChelsea. All six of you have to agree to it and if anyone else wants to bet against us winning the league you're welcome.

Lol you still deny you're not patronising? even you criticise, maybe not Mourinho but Luiz? Ramires? Oscar?

One season without a trophy and nobody is happy. Not even Mourinho. He kept going on about players having to play better (Schurrle Ramires Salah etc) and moaning the lack of strikers but let's not kid ourselves that Mourinho has been fantastic all season and the players fucked it all up. when he gets it right (Liverpool Man City PSG Arsenal) it is hailed as Mourinho's masterclass, then how come when he gets it wrong Mourinho can't be questioned?

[Reddish-Blue 2,513]

Yes, because all I do on here is slate the team (I've said nothing remotely negative about anyone else), and because I've never been to the Bridge or away games multiple times in my life (in fact, I've got tickets to Cardiff away next week). Get off your fucking high horse mate. Who the fuck do you think you are?

See what I mean? Saying anything remotely negative about Mourinho now equals to slating the club to some. Fan-fucking-tastic.

This has to be one of the worst posts I've ever read on here. You don't know anything about me or any of those that you've mentioned to come up with stupid shit like that. Get off your fucking pedestal and stop thinking you're some god on TC because you go watch a few games. Stupidity.

Exactly. Saying anything negative about Mourinho is like committing a crime on this forum...

At the end of the day, Mourinho is not god and everyone makes mistakes

[KevinAshburner 1,270]

I am not looking forward to when the day comes when Roman will probably sack or fire Jose again.

If Roman Says Jose is giving to much negatvity to the Chelsea FC Brand.

The Manager must not be bigger than The Team or the most interesting part of the Team that The Press or Media look forward to the most.

The Media/Press are going to have a field day on TV Sports Channels/Sports Radio Stations/Sports News Websites when probably Roman Sacks Jose Mourinho if he continues to be bad at Making terrible decisions on the way he behaves in Press Conferences or the way he speaks and causes more distractions for Chelsea FC and Causing more Press/Media to Destroy and Distract Chelsea with his Persona and Character. We need a Manager that is not more bigger than The Club or the Most interesting part of The Club.

[Melanicus 5,208]

I am not looking forward to when the day comes when Roman will probably sack or fire Jose again.

If Roman Says Jose is giving to much negatvity to the Chelsea FC Brand.

The Manager must not be bigger than The Team or the most interesting part of the Team that The Press or Media look forward to the most.

The Media/Press are going to have a field day on TV Sports Channels/Sports Radio Stations/Sports News Websites when probably Roman Sacks Jose Mourinho if he continues to be bad at Making terrible decisions on the way he behaves in Press Conferences or the way he speaks and causes more distractions for Chelsea FC and Causing more Press/Media to Destroy and Distract Chelsea with his Persona and Character. We need a Manager that is not more bigger than The Club or the Most interesting part of The Club.

Well, David Moyes is available.

[Peppen 934]

Can't wait for the reaction if we draw the last two or, even worse, lose them.

I remember at the start of the season when José's return was announced, and quite a few members told everyone to calm down, and that the team was still lacking players in key positions, a winning mentality, stability etc. And I agreed. Even though we have spent so much money, we are still in transition, whether you like it or not. The fact that we are is a fair point of criticism, but we are. What I dread is the fact that some would rather have Rafa back to replace Mourinho. I mean, if we want managerial stability and we can't get behind fucking Jose Mourinho then who the fuck are we going to support?

Yes, you can criticize Mourinho and still want him the be our manager, but some people are taking it too far. On the other hand, you can't blame all our bad results on the lack of a true striker, but it remains a valid point that if we had a 20 goal striker, we would probably be better off.

What I would love is a relaxed discussion with no subtle references to sacking Mourinho or blaming only him. Too much to ask for I suppose. The players have let him down several times this season, and while Mourinho has also failed, I wouldn't put his defensive attitude towards him. After that Sunderland game I would have done exactly the same.

[quickpassnmove 924]

Can't wait for the reaction if we draw the last two or, even worse, lose them.

I remember at the start of the season when José's return was announced, and quite a few members told everyone to calm down, and that the team was still lacking players in key positions, a winning mentality, stability etc. And I agreed. Even though we have spent so much money, we are still in transition, whether you like it or not. The fact that we are is a fair point of criticism, but we are. What I dread is the fact that some would rather have Rafa back to replace Mourinho. I mean, if we want managerial stability and we can't get behind fucking Jose Mourinho then who the fuck are we going to support?

Yes, you can criticize Mourinho and still want him the be our manager, but some people are taking it too far. On the other hand, you can't blame all our bad results on the lack of a true striker, but it remains a valid point that if we had a 20 goal striker, we would probably be better off.

What I would love is a relaxed discussion with no subtle references to sacking Mourinho or blaming only him. Too much to ask for I suppose. The players have let him down several times this season, and while Mourinho has also failed, I wouldn't put his defensive attitude towards him. After that Sunderland game I would have done exactly the same.

I was admittedly 50-50 on Jose returning, but I have no problem with backing him right now. The squad has lacked quality in center midfield and still lacks quality in center midfield, striker, and in fullback. I am pleased that Chelsea have CL next season, but it appears that one big reason CFC HAVE CL next season is not because of talent and "just enough" from the squad and Jose; it's because some other clubs have stumbled through the entire season.

I don't think Chelsea will have such a pass into the top four next season. It will only get harder next season (even if Liverpool fall in the table after hypothetically losing Suarez and playing more matches, etc.). Chelsea need better players (plural) in center midfield, striker and fullback(s) and need to play some effective, quick attacking football. We already know we can defend, so let's see some of the quick combination play up top that will take the tension and slow, distrustful habits away from this squad. vanGinkel could be a promising young player for the Prem, but he is an entirely unknown quantity -esp. after the knee injury. One center midfielder this summer is far from adequate.

My feeling on Mourinho is that he needs some time, but I also don't feel like he will be the one who stays long either unless Chelsea begin to play quick, accurate passes in possession. CFC need to become a side that is confident in playing quick passes more often, taking a little risk and trusting one another despite any breakdowns in such quick attacks. To become a side that can score in any match, at any moment--not just park the bus and wait for the opponent slip-up nor play too much dribble-and-look or ponderous possession play. This is the play that gives Chelsea low confidence and a bad reputation around the world. To get beyond this poor possession play and break opponents down with accuracy, speed, and a little risk is the challenge for Chelsea Football Club's future and for Jose --and for any subsequent managers.