The Mourinho Thread

[kellzfresh 7,229]

There are not lies 'here and there' but complete reverse in his approach.

Oh okay, now I understand you. That's why I said he has to defend the premier League even if he's saying a complete reverse.

But if Mourinho says the premier League is the most competitive but its harder to win the Spanish League, he hasn't really lied it's just perspective.

You can't expect English team win 4th in the row ? United won 3, were behind Chelsea by total 1 point in 2010, won in 2011 and were level with City in 2012 and won in 2013. So they have won 5 in 7 years and didn't win 7 in 7 only by like 1,5 points.

Exactly, it was competitive, tight. United never got 90 points in all those years like Barcelona and Madrid do, hence the premier League is more competitive.

On a side note, you underestimate Ferguson. He won the league so many times with average players like parkjisung, Cleverley, oshea, brown etc. And the few times he had proper quality teams he either won the Champions League or got to the final. Fergusons manutd is an exception, he was so good.

Juventus was 7th when Mou was there, Milan haven't won the league since 2004 and just lost Kaka. Inter won already 3 titles on the bounce before Jose and Mou own admission was that only Roma was a threat in his time at Inter. Cavani was a noob when Mou was there and Ibrahimovic was transferred to Barcelona. Besides that's not the point, the point was that the Italian league was the most difficult from tactical and disciplinary point of view as Mourinho admiited several times.

Like I said earlier, he never said the Italian league is more competitive, he said it's tactically difficult. Every team prepare more tactically instead of just coming with their regular game-plan. So he didn't lie again.

Now Spain. His own words are that the Spanish League is the most difficult league to win. He said that, everybody knows that. And now it's even more difficult because Atletico became a force, Valencia are reborn as a force, Sevilla is always pain in the ass and they're very strong and there's Real and Barca. You seriously can't say it's easier than the Premier League if anything it's more difficult because you have to win win and win because you have wonderful team like Barca.

And to be fair those 5 afromentioned teams are stronger than 5 teams from Premier League. There are Granadas that are lagging behind but Mourinho's Real slipped on them in 2012-13 and was left out of the competition for championship, so it's not easy at all when you have such an obligation to win.

Again he never said its the most competitive, he just said its difficult to win because you need above 90 points every single season because of Barcelona.

Lastly, I know why Mourinho is saying this. He said in the interview in reaction to Bale's words that La Liga is better than the Premier League that Bale thinks like that because he's there currently.

does he want to sign bale? I'm confused on this..

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

Urgh ... does La Liga isn't so competitive as well because you have one giant who just win, win and win ? So that's a very hard competition to face from Real Madrid manager I imagine. He basically lost La Liga in autumn in 2012-13, that's how competitive this league is. And this is football we're talking about. Even when you have an obligation to win against Granadas and such, unlike in basketball, voleyball and handball, you really can lose such games.

The Bale thing was simple. He said the Bale stuff when he was La Liga manager which is somewhat understable.

But having the jibes on other managers and trying underappreciate their achievements. That's really not nice. On occasion contradicting himself so much is even less nicer.

And the last thing, I remember when in Chelsea TV post match interview last season he counted his achievements. And he said like every trophy he won wasn't easy to get. Winning Champions League with Porto, getting Premier League from Invincibles, winning treble with Inter, winning the league against best Barcelona in history ... But others achievements weren't easier either. I don't know why someone has to feed his ego so much and create a bad taste even in good moment. How Jose beat the world vol. 18. Why ? Let's live in peace.

[Muzchap 8,966]

I strongly agree with Neville here saying that Roman has to tell Jose that he takes consequences for bringing youth players to the team...

Can you see that happening?

It's a powder keg situation if we start losing with youth

[Jase 43,479]

We won our first league title in 5 years on Sunday and some still want to moan and moan about something unimportant. Unbelievable.

[Tomo 21,751]

We won our first league title in 5 years on Sunday and some still want to moan and moan about something unimportant. Unbelievable.

Just wait until it's confirmed RLC doesn't start on Sunday, this place will crash.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

Blimey ! Miguel Delaney just wrote about this

“The people who have a big face to say we don't deserve it are the ones who, in my country, we say the dogs bark and the caravan goes by.”

Mourinho was prepared to follow that bark with a real bite. That proverb provided perhaps the most enigmatic words from this public address, but the most conspicuous were saved for a double dig at Pep Guardiola. Although the Portuguese neglected to isolate Chelsea’s key individual Eden Hazard for comment when asked, instead pointing to the collective, he felt no such compunction when honing in on the Bayern Munich manager.

“To win the title in Spain with 100 points against the best Barcelona ever was a big achievement, one I enjoyed so much. But maybe in the future I have to be smarter and choose another country, another club where everybody is champions, even where the kit man is champion coaching in some countries.”

Guardiola was not named, but there was no question about who Mourinho was referring to. He had made a similar comment on the eve of the game, lumping Bayern in with the likes of “Celtic, Basel, Olympiakos” as clubs ‘competing’ in “countries where this domination is common”.

This was no drive-by dig either. Mourinho referenced it twice, at the beginning and end of his press conference, in surprising detail.

It was, in truth, odd.

There are a few dimensions and elements to all of this, but the first is the question of why Mourinho is engaging in this kind of grumpy behaviour rather than just celebrating. Why the need to bring all this up now?

Well, perhaps his is how he celebrates? Perhaps this is how he enjoys himself: savouring a feeling of angry vindication rather than joyous victory.

The Portuguese often seems most satisfied when he is having a mischievous gig, at one of what seems an unhealthily large variety of rivals.

http://bet.unibet.co.uk/football/premier-league/driven-jose-mourinho-angry-vindication-just-important-joyous-celebration

[Styles 9,790]

Honestly, I just think Mourinho's self-esteem and ego took such a battering at Real Madrid that it will take time for him to recover. He left Madrid under such a cloud it's almost understandabl. This is why he hypes up his achievements at every turn.

Although the Portuguese neglected to isolate Chelsea’s key individual Eden Hazard for comment when asked, instead pointing to the collective, he felt no such compunction when honing in on the Bayern Munich manager.

[DYC. 7,542]

Blimey ! Miguel Delaney just wrote about this

http://bet.unibet.co.uk/football/premier-league/driven-jose-mourinho-angry-vindication-just-important-joyous-celebration

Oh dear. He just can't help it.

[duren batu 15]

We won our first league title in 5 years on Sunday and some still want to moan and moan about something unimportant. Unbelievable.

There's thread for that, unless people want to change this thread to moaning thread once again.

[Jase 43,479]

There's thread for that, unless people want to change this thread to moaning thread once again.

[Amblève. 4,995]

[Polo7 3,496]

Thats why we won and the others didnt. #OverhypedEnglish

[stroey 2,525]

http://youtu.be/w0NB2oEuoi8

such a great interview, I liked many things he said.

* The two Crystal Palace guys are good in the air but Zouma is better, when he came on it was game over (like this kind of comments)

* Fabregas gave the team talk prior Crystal Palace game, he said exactly what Mourinho thought '' it was so difficult to get here, let's finish it''.

(hinting at Cesc as next captain?)

* Schurrle goal was best goal of the season, it showed where we were capable of.

* JT and Ivanovic wanted to play every minute this season, they told him from the beginning

* JT was good last season, this year magnificent

* Cesc Fabregas defined our whole game at the beginning of the season, we played beautiful football

* Winning mentality: at the second part of the season, key players were injured or suspended but the players showed their coolness to grind out results.

* Cech is a legend

* praising Remy, Luis, Drogba, Cech, Zouma for giving 100% when given minutes.

* Current Chelsea vs Chelsea 2005-06, which team will win? Jose:'' depends on who is the manager''. (great cocky joke, like it)

* Stays as long as Abramovic wants him to

* Said it was a gamble to come back, because there is extra pressure to deliver after leaving the club which such a success.

[zolayes 14,489]

Thats why we won and the others didnt. #OverhypedEnglish

it helped we had no Scots either

[didierforever 7,349]

oh the sexy and beautiful football bayern played yesterday. such a joy to watch.

the first 16 minutes when pep the genius, the football saviour was playing 3-4-3 with boateng-rafinha-benatia against neymar-suarez-messi was just fabulous. i mean such a footbal is such a joy to watch. probably our college manager has more understanding and tactical nuance than pep the saviour.

i feel so blessed that pep rejected us, even if it meant three-fourth a season of benitez. thank you god.