The Mourinho Thread

[didierforever 7,349]

I thought we had already established that we don't have a squad but a team with little rotation potential. What has changed esp after a quiet transfer window and injuries? Now the idea that the youngsters will come and fix things just does not happen. At least not like this. Don't throw the likes of RLC under the bus...

I also cannot believe I am debating the existence of unity and teamwork... It was so very nicely explained on the video above. So what do all top coaches at Chelsea, our top manager and our top players do between games? Play videogames? If the team selection is the main thing then Jose is and has always been useless - should def tell roman might save him a few bucks.

Also, New players need to gel in and make positional mistakes in relation to the team, because they don't yet belong in that unity neither do they have trust. He has already made a couple of changes to no effect. Nothing drastic will happen - never does.

You are assuming that he who does not play is better than the one who does, or would have been better. But we don't really know that. You may claim you do, and you write as if you did, but you don't. And Neither do I.

remy is a youngster? baba is a full international who played 30 games last season for augsburg. stop giving useless excuses. RLC, is the only option we have if rambo is injured. even if RLC, is not taken into account, mikel is a younster? willian is a youngster?

bego

azpi-zouma-gc-baba

matic-mikel

pedro-willian/oscar-hazard

remy.

there u have it, happy with it?

oh. so team unity and all. ohk, so that means just to keep the team "unity", we should play out of form players? how does that even make any sense? if anything, what jose currently is doing is ANTI-team unity. i would simply love to have a talk with remy and ask him exactly how he feels? why exactly would he even want to be a part of this team and squad. lets see the number of players that left just cos they felt left out - KDB, mata, schurrle, salah. there's your team "unity".

i write, he who does not play, to be a better option than the people who do play and are in current form. if baba as a LB is as bad as iva currently (or worse) as a RB, then kudos to us paying 21 million for him. if RLC, cant replace cesc in this form, kudos to us loaning out mvg and pasalic. in the end, since jose is the manager, and this is his squad, it is his RESPONSIBILITY. it is his mistake.

and now to the first line of your comment, no we had established that idea. even if we did, their is no reason to be playing iva and cesc and definitely diego every match. we have a good squad. the likes of rambo and mikel were part of a chelsea first team in 10/11 that almost could have won the league or won the CL. sometimes, more than finesse, you need balls. unfortunately, that concept seems to be lost on you and jose.

by the way, none of this counts as an answer to if a player is underperforming, lacking in passion and motivation, should he be dropped or not. the existence of teamwork and unity is applicable on all the 25 players in the squad, not on the starting 11.

which couple of changes are you talking about, pray tell me. since the start of the season, we had 2 massive areas of concern. CM, RB. has he dropped iva? has he dropped cesc? so please dont invent your own solutions.

[Iggy Doonican 4,186]

Calling everyone wankers was strong. I have to hold my hands up there and apologise but it angers me soo much to see our fans turn on Jose Mourinho. This is a man who has given us unforgettable memories (good ones). Yes he is making consistent mistakes thus far but we are only 5 games in... That's 5 flipping games.

It feels like this forum has turned into a Real Madrid forum or something.

Maybe I

Fans are entitled to voice there opinions and if they turn on Mourinho well so be it. He's getting well paid so now it's time for him to earn his money and get us out of our current predicament. I'm not saying he should be sacked but this five game thing is an anomaly. We haven't been playing well since New Years Day and instead of scraping 1-0 wins we are now getting soundly beaten. Also the ridiculous excuses are starting to grate, he said Everton scored their third goal after crossing the half way line for the first time in the half. What bollocks Lukaku could have had a hat trick. Even if that was true the irony of Mourinho of all people complaining about teams staying in there own half.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

I'm more and more convinced of the fact that Mourinho is a very good manager when everything goes exactly as planned, but that he really doesn't have any clue what to do once the shit hits the fan.

What did he actually do to try and turn things around? Did he make any major adaptions to the team?

Reminds me of his third season at Real. Completely lost the players there. He loses every bit of class too when things get shitty. The yelling, the name calling, the cursing. It's pretty laughable and disgusting actually. His ego needs to take some steps back sometimes.

Chelsea should have made him give a public apology for what he said to Carneiro too btw. Calling a doctor a 'hija de puta' for doing her job? Class act mate.

[Muzchap 8,966]

I thought we had already established that we don't have a squad but a team with little rotation potential. What has changed esp after a quiet transfer window and injuries? Now the idea that the youngsters will come and fix things just does not happen. At least not like this. Don't throw the likes of RLC under the bus...I also cannot believe I am debating the existence of unity and teamwork... It was so very nicely explained on the video above. So what do all top coaches at Chelsea, our top manager and our top players do between games? Play videogames? If the team selection is the main thing then Jose is and has always been useless - should def tell roman might save him a few bucks.

Also, New players need to gel in and make positional mistakes in relation to the team, because they don't yet belong in that unity neither do they have trust. He has already made a couple of changes to no effect. Nothing drastic will happen - never does.

You are assuming that he who does not play is better than the one who does, or would have been better. But we don't really know that. You may claim you do, and you write as if you did, but you don't. And Neither do I.

I agree with the sentiment - but what you are explaining is another 'nail' in Mourinho's coffin for me.

Over the past 2 seasons we have had plenty of opportunities to bed in some youngsters and squad players, and get them involved in the team. However, Mourinho has refused to do this. These actions are what lead us to today's predicament !

Stick or twist.

Yes, it's a huge gamble - BUT it need not have been, if our manager had shown some foresight.

I don't consider giving Remy a chance a gamble

I don't consider dropping Iva and playing Baba a gamble

I don't consider dropping Cesc a gamble

I do consider playing RLC a measured gamble

I do consider playing Kenedy a greater gamble than RLC

I would also give Traore a go - as an impact sub and someone who can hit long range shots.

So yes - you are correct, there is a risk to unity and team chemistry - BUT - the failure of this in my humble opinion sits firmly and squarely on the managers shoulders

Jesus - how depressing is it to be pointing out all of Mou's flaws :(

[lucio 5,418]

will he consider changing the formation? for me 4-3-3 is obvious.

im pretty sure , mikel , cesc , matic , oscar , ramires all prefer this formation.

who does 4-2-3-1 actually benefit? off the top of my head, only willian. and that's only if he plays centrally, which he doesn't more often that not,

currently useless guys like mikel and ramires, will become acceptable options , more or less

this . and sorting out the fullbacks, is all he needs to do , to improve the team drastically.

[Hybrid Angel 2,130]

I wouldn't mind finishing in the top 4 and only reaching the top 16 if we gave kids like Loftus-Cheek a real go, drop Ivanovic for Baba and put Zouma in our starting 11. I would be disgusted if we finish the season like that AND we kept playing the same shite and play with the same tactics.

[manpe 10,861]

He loses every bit of class too when things get shitty. The yelling, the name calling, the cursing.

Demba Ba: Why I would avoid Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho after a defeat

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"Mourinho hates losing, I wouldn't recommend trying to talk to him after a loss but he is great to be around after a win," Ba reportedly told turkishfootball.com.

[johnnythefirst 1,076]

Demba Ba: Why I would avoid Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho after a defeat

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"Mourinho hates losing, I wouldn't recommend trying to talk to him after a loss but he is great to be around after a win," Ba reportedly told turkishfootball.com.

Yeah, when he's winning he's this charismatic, slightly sarcastic presence at press conferences et cetera.

When he's not, he's just an angry little Portuguese guy no one likes.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

Finally new look.

Shit is going to get real now!

[The Skipper 20,609]

Sigh.

[didierforever 7,349]

hahhaha.. delusions of grandeur

[Muzchap 8,966]

MASSIVE SIGH

There you go... Need anybody say more.

[didierforever 7,349]

history - so now liverpool/arsenal effect. i thought he did not want to be known by his past or something.

[Laylabelle 9,536]

No one can steal our past but making the future look bleak at the moment.Is funny though was gana happen some point..man u have done it..Liverpool have done it and now our turn.

[Blue_Fox_ 2,086]

history - so now liverpool/arsenal effect. i thought he did not want to be known by his past or something.

we won the league 8 competitive matches ago, not 11 years ago ffs

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Love that press conference from José! he came out fighting! now hopefully the players will do the same!

José seems like he is well up for the battle this season!

[Peace. 4,352]

Sigh.

Well, since it is a "game" based upon results... Not having good results might be just one problem but that is a huge one, isn't it...

[lionsden 4,689]

Well, since it is a "game" based upon results... Not having good results might be just one problem but that is a huge one, isn't it...

Our performance hasn't been good either yet he fails to acknowledge it. How do we expect to improve and bounce back with an attitude like that.

[Pacquiao 1,834]

Our performance hasn't been good either yet he fails to acknowledge it. How do we expect to improve and bounce back with an attitude like that.

if you think a manager like Mourinho doesn't acknowledge bad performances then it shows how deluded you are, just because he doesn't come out and talk about the bad performances doesn't mean he doesn't address it with the team and his coaching staff.

[lionsden 4,689]

if you think a manager like Mourinho doesn't acknowledge bad performances then it shows how deluded you are, just because he doesn't come out and talk about the bad performances doesn't mean he doesn't address it with the team and his coaching staff.

He hasnt addressed the poor performance issue that has plagued this team since january and that in itself is a huge cause for concern. so whatever the feck he and his coaching staff are doing about it (thats assuming hes actually doing anything about it) clearly isn't working.