The Mourinho Thread

[Special Juan 27,424]

Obviously. I was highlighting how boring we are. #JoseOut

JoseOut.....Sell the club

[Blue-in-me-Veins 4,067]

@MrExcalibur have you forgotten how we played from August till Jan 1st? Where you yourself said sometime during that stretch that "whats amazing is that every game we've never looked like the inferior side, even during the loss against NewCastle."

Listen. Nobody will argue that our second half of the season has been hard to watch. But JM noticed something in our squad, and has decided that pragmatism was the way to go to secure the EPL trophy, and it has worked.

We're 15pts ahead of the Great Man City.. And running away with the league. For many of us, JM gets a HUGE pass because that decision has paid off. And at the same time he's instilling to Hazard, Costa, Azpi, Courtois, Zouma, and Cesc (whose NEVER won like this) how to grind out wins and be mentally strong. How many times has Cesc been on the other side of a game like today against Chelsea w/Arsenal & Barca? Where his team has 60%+ possession and time after time Chelsea still would win.

If we had played this 'bad' THROUGHOUT the season you'd be correct, but that hasnt been the case, and you know that.

So when you, Lionsden, Styles, and MrBlueGuy all harp about how negative and outdated JM is many will defend him because that hasnt been the case ALL season. However i will concede that some of the criticisms are totally legit, like JM's youth policy and such, and its good to see people checking him. But whats amazing is that that same outdated manager has us running away with the league.

But of course. Our rivals are shit, our league is shit, we no longer dominate the UCL like its England's right to do so, So who ultimately cares if we win the league right?

[LAB 1,030]

Take a break from moaning and at least enjoy the win even if you didn't like how Jose chose to play.

[Tomo 21,733]

Mourinho won't last long here. His fanboys should deal with it. He will again get exposed in the champions league as he has done in the last few seasons. No other big name manager will dare set up his team to play this way big match after big match.

Any other top class manager could have easily won the league with this team after such a limp attempt from our "rivals", who are no better than Monaco.

Shit football and lack of CL success means Mourinho will be out and then no big team will want him. Roman really is brutal like that, ask Ancelotti. He'll have to run to the Arabs at PSG. Mourinho should never forget he needs us more than we need him.

If you want to bring up Ancelotti, the football we played in his second season was worse than anything we have played this season, or even under AVB for that matter.

and why exactly are you going down the fan boy route? Jose is one of the most influential characters in the club's history whether you like it or not, aren't we suppose to love and support people who have such an influence on our club and given and still is giving us great memories, or have I not read the memo?

[mediator 2,026]

Mourinho on Hazard: "One thing is the talent but another thing is to be consistent." #CFC

[pHaRaOn 2,131]

Another woeful "tactical" display. Luckily Man United and our other so called "rivals" are very average teams themselves. Too bad it won't work against Barcelona or Madrid or even the likes of PSG and Atletico for that matter.

I don't see his 2nd spell being a long one. Only a matter of time before Roman gets bored with the negative ribbish "football" and wonders what he's wasting his money for.

Yeap, he looks clearly bored after the final whistle

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Saddest part is Graeme Souness makes a whole lot more sense than most.

“You’re out in front, you’ve played all your football, scored all your goals, done your entertaining, and now it’s down to business. Just get the points in the bag, thank you very much, on to next season and win it again.”

It's a marathon, you don't sprint to the finish.

[didierforever 7,349]

Yeap, he looks clearly bored after the final whistle

sad thing is that people think that roman is some idiot who does not know how things work in the real world.

for fuck's sake that guy is a multi billionaire and has had his hands dirty in so many ways that we cant even imagine. i am sure he knows there is a time to do something with style and flair and then there is time when u just have to get the job done.

[OhForAGreavsie 5,890]

I know my posts are controversial and many will hate to read them .From the bottom of my heart, I didn't intend for that to be the case. My main concern is the best future for our club, nothing else. Nobody is bigger than this club, not Roman or anyone else.

You know I couldn't wait to get back and log on to read the latest efforts from the whiners. Thank you for not letting me down.

Every bit as enjoyable as the constant bleating on Arsenal Fan TV.

[nadavTKL 1,787]

Mourinho came with his beloved plan and it worked great (except the first 20 minutes when we were very confused). Im happy it worked, but thats not the football i want to see next season. He should get those few players that he needs to get back to the football of the first half of the season (Another playmaker and a CB).

[CHOULO19 24,332]

It was not a fantastic performance by any stretch of the imagination, but no one can deny that we controlled the match and steered it in the direction that we wanted it to go, and that is largely down to Jose.

Though I still believe that we would have had a better performance had Mikel started in the center ahead of Zouma who looked nervous as hell every time in possession and made several nearly-costly mistakes in the first 20 mins.

[Polo7 3,496]

Where are the haters now?

Mourinho has been figured out they said???

Fucking yes mate!!! CMON ON CHELSEA!

[xPetrCechx 13,563]

It was not a fantastic performance by any stretch of the imagination, but no one can deny that we controlled the match and steered it in the direction that we wanted it to go, and that is largely down to Jose.

Though I still believe that we would have had a better performance had Mikel started in the center ahead of Zouma who looked nervous as hell every time in possession and made several nearly-costly mistakes in the first 20 mins.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Lol You think we did not control the match? We made united play EXACTLY as we wanted them to: No long balls to Fellaini, spaces in the middle not down the flanks, not allowing their wingers to cut on the other foot and cross which is one of their biggest threats, man-marked midfielders, especially Fellaini, to prevent Falcao laying it off to them in the hole around the box...etc.

Like I said, it wasn't a great performance, but united got nothing from their usual tactics.

[hjperdeath 2,226]

Lol You think we did not control the match? We made united play EXACTLY as we wanted them to: No long balls to Fellaini, spaces in the middle not down the flanks, not allowing their wingers to cut on the other foot and cross which is one of their biggest threats, man-marked midfielders, especially Fellaini, to prevent Falcao laying it off to them in the hole around the box...etc.

Like I said, it wasn't a great performance, but united got nothing from their usual tactics.

People need to differentiate control with possession.

[Special Juan 27,424]

Where are the haters now?

We created a moaning thread and we can't even get some of them in there now.

Some pop in for morning tea, some just come in for a browse but most of all they stay under their rocks.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

People need to differentiate control with possession.

It's all the self-righteous 'proper football' crap. People just assume that every team in every single match will ideally look to keep possession as long as possible because Pep's Barcelona are the ultimate footballing model.

[MrExcalibur100 7,124]

If you want to bring up Ancelotti, the football we played in his second season was worse than anything we have played this season, or even under AVB for that matter.

and why exactly are you going down the fan boy route? Jose is one of the most influential characters in the club's history whether you like it or not, aren't we suppose to love and support people who have such an influence on our club and given and still is giving us great memories, or have I not read the memo?

Agreed, Tomo with the bolded. And I do love and support Mourinho for what he has done, even if I might not show it as zealously as some other posters. I supported him and followed his career intently when he wasn't even a Chelsea manager for god's sake. I love the geezer. I have never known any Chelsea staff member who has defended this club in public more than Mourinho has. I appreciate Mourinho for what he will win for the club this season, a league and cup double. I'm sure I'll be celebrating like a madman when we win the league.. But I also know we are a big enough club to expect both titles and entertaining football. This team is more than strong enough to do it, that's a cheap excuse. The brutal fact is, there is no big team in Europe this sort of football. Remember, Jose was not the favourite or even the 2nd favourite to get the Chelsea job. A proper Chelsea legend not being the favourite? Ever asked yourself why? I can also run a list of other top European clubs who won't want Mourinho as manager because of primarily his team plays football but I won't go there.

I don't believe Mourinho is the right manager for this group of players. I'm sure that I will be vindicated sometime in the future, regardless of how unpopular it might make me on a Chelsea forum. I hope the man stays forever, but I know in my heart of hearts the football he knows best to play is not sustainable long-term for a big club. UNLESS, Mourinho gets an attacking coach to help with the side of football he is so clearly not strong at. He will be a better manager for it.

Right now, I'm sure he knows he hasn't been good enough in Europe because of his weakness. 4-1 to Dortmund (though they won the 2nd leg 2-0 tbf), 3-1 to Atletico Madrid and worst of all, losing to 10 man PSG at home. Anyone who wants to see the weaknesses in Mourinho as a manager, re-watch both legs carefully. It's not simply about signing world class players and relying on their individual brilliance to win matches. What about when they come up against other teams with equally good players? All of a sudden, what do we do?

Mourinho's Chelsea is not even that solid defensively anymore. In his first spell, when he set up his teams to defend, Petr barely had any saves to make. Now, the opposition are working Courtois left, right and centre, hitting the post and we are getting lucky breaks. The reason is the players we have now (Hazard's, Oscar's, Fabregas', Willian's) are being told to play a brand of football that is foreign to them and we've been found out vs Europe's elite.

Anyway, I don't want to labour my points any further and frustrate any other posters by bringing up uncomfortable issues and repeating the same stuff over and over. It's too easy to get along with everyone here by just being smiley-happy and going for the ride. I know it will make me unpopular, but I'm more concerned about the long term success of the club.

I want the love story between Chelsea and Jose Mourinho to be unbreakable and last for as long as he goes on to manage Portugal in his sixties or whatever, but Mourinho and by extension, Chelsea, needs a strong attacking coach. It's not about Marco Reus or Paul Pogba. I read rumours of Zola on twitter about a week ago, but i'm not sure he is up for that job.