The Mourinho Thread

[BlueLion. 21,491]

People can't blame the referee for how badly we defended.

[Phil Driver 503]

People can't blame the referee for how badly we defended.

No but you can for the foul on Azpi ,the pen on Ba and the fouling and timewasting he let go. But you are right the first goal was an error by Cech and the second was awful from Mikel who let Ireland go unchallenged,the third was when we were chasing the winner .

[Laylabelle 9,351]

"I think Chelsea are in trouble" Phil big nose Thompson, the resident div at sky sports. Doesn't realize we are still joint second with his beloved Liverpool

Oh for Christ sake here we go again....way our defense is we could be in big trouble but aint gone the way of Man U yet.....crisis again blahhhhhh

[The Skipper 20,593]

His subs were okay today IMO.

Schurrle sub is completely understandable - Schurrle was clearly tired in his general play, lost the ball almost every time he got it after his second goal. He ran his socks off, first game in about a month, of course he's not going to be match fit. You'd want to bring on some fresh legs for the last 20 minutes - completely understandable.

Bringing on Lampard was fine too - we were in search for a goal after all.

Ba for Torres was spot on too as Fernando didn't do anything all game.

The defence let him down today, everyone bar probably Terry had horrible games IMO.

[BlueLion. 21,491]

No but you can for the foul on Azpi ,the pen on Ba and the fouling and timewasting he let go. But you are right the first goal was an error by Cech and the second was awful from Mikel who let Ireland go unchallenged,the third was when we were chasing the winner .

Yup, I think we just have to accept we played a terrible, terrible game today. I don't think we need to analyse the game so much for that simple reason, we were simply beaten by a team that quite clearly wanted it more.

[Phil Driver 503]

Jose has said that two of his players today were so bad he cant comment on them .I reckon it is obviously two who got subbed and I will go Torres and Mikel .

[CHOULO19 24,332]

Got it wrong with the subs today. I think we would have won had he not brought Eto'o and Lampard on. Can't complain too much though, his subs have won us quit a lot of games this season. I just hope he doesn't blame it on the foul on Azpi like he did against WBA.

[The Skipper 20,593]

So easy to say in hindsight that he got it wrong with the subs today, I disagree. The subs were okay, it was a reaction to our defenders and GK having a nightmare and putting the team in that situation when we should've been comfortable.

I don't think Jose did much wrong today.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

No wonder Jose said we probably won't win it this season, he knew this was gonna happen. Hopefully we win Capital One Cup and FA Cup, also making it at least to semi of CL.

[Jase 43,479]

don't know what you're talking about

3-2 flattered us

we were completely outplayed by Stoke in that second half

Outplayed by Stoke in the second half?

I know we screwed things up then but to say we were outplayed is ridiculous. Stoke did nothing special. They just improved on their performances from the first half, defended deep like most teams do against us and then score 2 goals from 2 moments of individual brilliance from counter attacks. We did nothing of note in the second half, but so did Stoke. They just had more luck and things going for them.

"I think Chelsea are in trouble" Phil big nose Thompson, the resident div at sky sports. Doesn't realize we are still joint second with his beloved Liverpool

Such comments are laughable really. One week, we play well, win comfortably and they say we will challenge for the title. We look strong and going in the right direction bla bla bla. Lose one game like this and it's suddenly 'Chelsea are in crisis' or 'Chelsea are in trouble'. Pathetic!

[Sheva. 5,373]

So easy to say in hindsight that he got it wrong with the subs today, I disagree. The subs were okay, it was a reaction to our defenders and GK having a nightmare and putting the team in that situation when we should've been comfortable.

I don't think Jose did much wrong today.

Leaving Ramires on after that 1st and taking off MIkel so Lampard can attack, when there was already so much space for them = beyond criminal.

I don't really care about his subs though because you can't always get them right, and he's made some great one's this season.

I'm more angry at the overplaying of certain players.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Mourinho: 'Schurrle came off because he had a calf injury. He told me he couldn't continue.'

Now can people stop saying Mourinho didn't make the right sub with Schurrle. It was pretty clear that Andre wasn't fit in the second half, especially after his goal.

[Tomo 21,733]

Honestly speaking, we started really good, were in complete control, but due to poor finishing and utter complacency allowed Stoke back into the game. Stoke were shit, we let them back into it, it's as simple as that. This was exactly like the Newcastle match, a 5-0 win on a plate, but we threw the dish on the floor.

Anyone else praying Zenit get knocked out of the CL so we could make a go for Witsel?

[The Skipper 20,593]

Leaving Ramires on after that 1st and taking off MIkel so Lampard can attack, when there was already so much space for them = beyond criminal.

I agree that he could've perhaps taken off Ramires instead and let Mikel sit in front of the back 4 but at the same time Ramires' drive and energy on the counter and his ability to score goals (even though that wasn't on show today) is possibly why he kept him on as well.

I also said in the MDT that I would be tempted to take off Rambo too for Lampard but I could see where Mou was coming from with that sub.

Regardless, IMO Mourinho shouldn't have to be put in that situation, we had the game under control until our defence shot itself in the foot.

[Mouri_Matic 560]

Honestly speaking, we started really good, were in complete control, but due to poor finishing and utter complacency allowed Stoke back into the game. Stoke were shit, we let them back into it, it's as simple as that. This was exactly like the Newcastle match, a 5-0 win on a plate, but we threw the dish on the floor.

Anyone else praying Zenit get knocked out of the CL so we could make a go for Witsel?

They get knocked out or not it doesn't matter. We want him we pay 40m, simple as that

[BlueLion. 21,491]

One thing we can agree on is how competitive the Premier League is this season. I honestly believe 75 points could win the title. I think that's something we have to take into consideration - this league is ridiculously unpredictable.

[Phil Driver 503]

Mikel came off for letting Ireland walk past him ,I dont think he liked that from his supposed DM it looked as though he could not be bothered.

Jose has said two of his players were so bad he cant comment on them ,Torres and Mikel is my bet and he would be right they were both awful in the jobs they are paid to do.

[CHOULO19 24,332]

So easy to say in hindsight that he got it wrong with the subs today, I disagree. The subs were okay, it was a reaction to our defenders and GK having a nightmare and putting the team in that situation when we should've been comfortable.

I don't think Jose did much wrong today.

I get the thought behind the subs, I'm just saying that they obviously didn't work. We were much more in control of the game till we made those subs. Like I said, it's not a big deal, but it's a big part of why we lost today. You can't change that.