The Mourinho Thread

[manpe 10,861]

Sorry but the people who keep posting "Please come home Jose!" and "Come back to where you belong!" sound like 5 year old kids begging for sweet. Sure he may bring a couple of trophies. But it will be 3-4 years max and them him leaving due to conflict with the board and even players.

Talk about making someone bigger then the club.

3-4 years? That's an eternity! Wouldn't mind that.

[communicate 2,703]

I think in term of jose it really depend, I don't think we are ready to win EPL next season unless we made crazy signings and Jose is known to be a manager who want to win now. I have a feeling that city is a better team for him

[gary gordon 1,777]

I honestly don't think he would manage any other prem team. I remember reading an article about how he cried when inter beat us at the bridge. His passion for this club is very strong, i can't see him choosing another club to be honest. If he does leave Madrid, he will be back here.

[mediator 2,026]

Mou is a big fan of A. Witsel.

He wanted him in madrid next season. If he comes back, i can see us making a bid next summer.

Next to KDB or Oscar, that could be awesome in our double pivot.

In fact, i don't think we have to sign another players. With the come back of the loanies, we should sell those who aren't chelsea materials and keep others into the squad

---------- Witsel / Mikel -- KDB / Oscar -------------

Moses / KDB -- Mata / Oscar -- Hazard / KDB -

----------------------- BA / Lukaku ----------------

[xPetrCechx 13,570]

3-4 Years as a manager at chelsea is a Dream.

[Heisenberg 1,824]

I doubt he will ever come back, especially at the moment, what the hell will he come here for?.

We have no good players for any position, it's a messed up team, I've never seen a team with so much unbalance in my whole life, why would Mourinho go here. He could probably get a better job elsewhere if he doesn't want to go to Madrid.

He loves the club and likes Challenges.

[Mufassir08 2,400]

Mou is a big fan of A. Witsel.

He wanted him in madrid next season. If he comes back, i can see us making a bid next summer.

Next to KDB or Oscar, that could be awesome in our double pivot.

In fact, i don't think we have to sign another players. With the come back of the loanies, we should sell those who aren't chelsea materials and keep others into the squad

---------- Witsel / Mikel -- KDB / Oscar -------------

Moses / KDB -- Mata / Oscar -- Hazard / KDB -

----------------------- BA / Lukaku ----------------

Witsel would be amazing.

[Styles 9,790]

Mata is arguably the player of the season. Cole is still one of the best left-backs in the world. Hazard and Oscar have massive potential. Azpi has been a revelation at right-back. We have two of the top fifteen goalkeepers in the world, plus a ton of young talent.

Yes it's a challenge but the opportunity to build something amazing here would tempt any top coach. Some of the pessimistic shit really needs a dose of perspective.

There aren't a massive number of 'top names' around to be honest. Mourinho, Klopp and Guardiola are probably the three biggest names around right now and one turned us down, one won't leave and the other is still one of the best coaches in world football in my opinion.

You call it a marriage of convenience, I look at it as possibility being a nice slice of serendipity. This club still has Mourinho's feel to it and the fans love him, so why not go for it?

Didn't tempt Guardiola. Now it's seemingly back to Mourinho who doesn't quite fit the criteria for what has been assembled. The board are just making it up as they go along.

We're a very different club to the one Mourinho took over in 2004. Football has changed a great deal.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Didn't tempt Guardiola. Now it's seemingly back to Mourinho who doesn't quite fit the criteria for what has been assembled. The board are just making it up as they go along.

We're a very different club to the one Mourinho took over in 2004. Football has changed a great deal.

Then that will be Guardiola's loss. He'll go to Munich, win three titles, get to at least one final of the Champions League and then leave. The next coach will come in, do something similar and then the next one will come in and do something similar again. He's just going to be a cog in the machine and that's fair enough.

What's possible at Chelsea in the next decade is incredible. Rather than simply being the next custodian of a footballing giant, someone could come in and create one.

You say he 'doesn't quite fit the criteria for what has been assembled' at the same time as suggesting David Moyes for manager. Now I respect his achievements but having watched his Everton sides over the last ten years I don't know if I could say he fits the criteria any better. In fact Mourinho has set up his Madrid team in a way that we could quite easily play with maybe one or two additions. Ignoring the tactics he uses just look at the personnel he employs. I went over it earlier but our players and Madrid's are interchangeable in a number of areas.

Sorry but the people who keep posting "Please come home Jose!" and "Come back to where you belong!" sound like 5 year old kids begging for sweet. Sure he may bring a couple of trophies. But it will be 3-4 years max and them him leaving due to conflict with the board and even players.

Talk about making someone bigger then the club.

I'd hope he would stay longer than that if he came back. The man has won everything there is to win in Italy, he won La Liga in Madrid and he won everything in Portugal. I can't see him managing in Germany because he'd be chasing Munich (and he doesn't really fit Munich's style) and whilst Paris is a great city it's a fucking shit league. That may be harsh but it's like a boy band being big in, well France. Great you're amazingly popular......in France.

I'd love for him to come back and settle down for a decade.As I said above he took us to a new level and there is a chance to take us to an even bigger one in the next 10 years. Plus there's something to be said for getting every fan in the ground back onside and supporting the team.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

3-4 years? That's an eternity! Wouldn't mind that.

Problem is that some people have this grandiose idea that he will be sticking around for possibly 15 even as long as 20 years. That's not going to happen, because about the second or third year he either starts getting bored (Porto and Inter) or gets into conflict with the board (Us and Madrid).

Also, I still find it ironically sad that people are celebrating whenever a news report comes out of him unable to get the dressing room to cooperate? Yeah because it's not like it actually shows that he is not an indestructible manager who never does anything wrong management wise.

[AndersonBLUE 819]

Sorry but the people who keep posting "Please come home Jose!" and "Come back to where you belong!" sound like 5 year old kids begging for sweet. Sure he may bring a couple of trophies. But it will be 3-4 years max and them him leaving due to conflict with the board and even players.

Talk about making someone bigger then the club.

so your the adult telling the kids not to be excited at a bit of news (if true) like this? you would be the one at the ground telling people to 'shhh!' when they start mourinho chants. do us a favor

[The only place to be 11,313]

Problem is that some people have this grandiose idea that he will be sticking around for possibly 15 even as long as 20 years. That's not going to happen, because about the second or third year he either starts getting bored (Porto and Inter) or gets into conflict with the board (Us and Madrid).

Also, I still find it ironically sad that people are celebrating whenever a news report comes out of him unable to get the dressing room to cooperate? Yeah because it's not like it actually shows that he is not an indestructible manager who never does anything wrong management wise.

So say he comes in next year - where does he go three years down the line?

Don't you also think it's possible that he might actually have changed after his experience in Madrid? He is human and capable of growth. I'm not saying it's a certainty and that he would work out here, but what are the other options on the table right now?

[Manuf 1,448]

since you all know mourinho so well why don't you just call him and ask? maybe then pass the news to us. thanks in advance.

[The only place to be 11,313]

Answers in order of your queries: Let Jose or any competent Manager/Coach assess that. The Youth Development has been fine through to the end of the'Youth' period. I'd ask you this, how many have developed into First Team regulars at either Chelsea or any other top dozen PL clubs, I suspect you'll know the answer to this, but answer it for me anyway. You'll have your answer as to how well the 'system' is working in producing First-Team players for us. I can only think of one in the last 7-8 seasons. Therefore any 'system' we may have is worth reviewing?

If you never try, you'll never know, if Jose pisses off again after three years how much worse off do you think we'd be than we are now, with a good D of F in place, not an Arnesen or Grant or an Emenalo but a person with that has the club at heart, I'd doubt we'd be any worse place than we are now and probably alot better. There's been too many people willing to take chunks of Roman's money without offering enough back. How many of the top eight clubs in England would Emenalo get a job at, do you think he'd get the Man City job, would SAF take him on, how about Moyes at Everton, Rodgers at L'Pool, Wenger at Arsenal - Again, and I'm not having a go, tell me where he'd get the same gig. Roman's been taken for a bit of a fool in football by people he's put trust in.

I think the clubs signings have been OK, however they've missed out big-time in some key areas - a replacement for Makelele, Essien, a Right-Back and Two Forwards. So in my view they've lacked depth of vision, albeit picking up Mata (superb), Hazard and Oscar (promising), 'Dave' - the jury's still out for me.

If your desired goal is to have all squad's playing the same way then the Manager dictates the terms, not the Youth-Team Coach, tail wagging dog!

My opinion is based on what I perceive and I hear, you haven't offered your opinion yet, what's yours and why?

Answering in order....

There have been a few products that have gone on to be part of first teams squads in this country, but the youth program under Roman has only been going for 10 years. Isn't now about the time you'd expect us to be churning out the type of products we are? Don't you think that this group of youngsters holds infinitely more promise than any that have come before?

Of those clubs you mentioned, only Man City have a DoF I believe. You can't compare us to Arsenal or United because they have long-term managers who take on those roles. I think that actually might change in the future because Fergie will retire and Arsenal won't make the same mistake of giving a manager so much power. That's why they can't sack him despite a lot of fans wanting that. The two Liverpool clubs don't have one although Liverpool tried and failed with Comoli.

On to the club's signings which Emenalo has only been part of for the last few years. We haven't signed a replacement for Makelele because they haven't got round to making one yet. The closest we got was Fellani although Romeu could well be that guy. Essien's replacement is Ramires. We signed Azpilicueta to play right-back and he's done a fucking good job in his first season. Up front we have Lukaku out on loan, Ba bought in for £7.5 million and Islam Feruz in the youth team. The Torres deal fucked us big style but Roman and Ancelotti seem to get a free pass on that one.

How can a manager dictate how the whole club plays when modern football doesn't seem to allow for managers to stick around for a long-time? We take children on at this club and they could conceivably spend a DECADE playing in age-group teams. Do we change the style they play every time we get a new coach? Like it or not a DoF provides stability for the whole club when the first-team coach doesn't perform.

My opinion is that it's very easy to blame the guys in between the owner and the manager for a few reasons. Firstly, fans don't want to upset Roman because he's done so much for the club and there's always that scary 'what if?' thought in the back of their minds. They want to give coaches (present company accepted) as much support as they can because they do want stability. But most importantly, I think the majority of fans don't have a fucking clue what most of these people do. That's fair enough, it's boring and it's not well-publicised and they're not high-profile people so it's easy to see them as nothing but names on a door. I know a fair few people who work in these roles and they spend most of their time telling people no. They're not popular people and they're easy to target when things go wrong. No supporters like 'the board' at any club and if they do then it's just a respite before the next salvo of 'sack the board' chants.

With regards Emenalo in particular, he came into his position when the club was doing the wrong things. We were giving old players big money and ignoring the youth. Now we are playing catch-up to rectify the mistakes that were made 5-7 years ago in both the personnel side and the financial side. I liken it to doing repairs on a Formula One car in the middle of a race.You're still trying to win whilst patching up the chassis and it's damn-near impossible.

Despite that we have bought in some great players on decent wages and fees and also secured some thoroughly worthwhile loans for our most promising prospects. The problem with integrating them into the first-team is the same as it's always been which is why we need stability in that position.

But too often the good work done by 'the board' is ignored as people look for a quick fix or simply someone to blame.

[Rubber bullets 1,183]

so your the adult telling the kids not to be excited at a bit of news (if true) like this? you would be the one at the ground telling people to 'shhh!' when they start mourinho chants. do us a favor

Silly, I'm just heading caution and wanting to be rational (something you probably lack). I just feel that people continuously yapping that Mourinho should come back "home" where he "belongs" is making him bigger then the club. Which I find squeamish.