communicate 2,703 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Please, Please, Please...Dont say things about the Zen master if you dont know much about teams and players he coached...How many rings did Jordan win without Big Phil?...Im a Laker fan, and how many rings do you think we have won after Phil?, the first time Phil Jackson left the Lakers, we were so dreadful that Kobe asked to be traded, why didnt the almighty Kobe(whom i adore) not win everything for the Lakers himself, or why he is not wining it for us now...Shaq only won the one ring with and amazing D Wade after he left the lakers...How many rings has the best player of right now (Lebron) won? just one? and he took him being two years with D wade and Bosh to pull it off...I bet if the Zen master had coached Lebron, we would have been counting the number of rings they have both won...I know he had some of the best players of our time, but do you also notice that he seems to get the very best from the best players of our time?...Somehow great managers always tried to get their success looked down upon because the had the best player in their locker room, or maybe it was because of that manager that the player turned out that great...Mourinho: in my opinion had a lot to do with making Lamps, JT, Drogba and Cech into the world beaters they turned out to be....Fergie: Giggs, Beckham, C Ronaldo...The list goes onBig Phil...Shaq was the leagues beast and best big man, but couldnt win a ring until he played for the Zen, master... Kobe was an arrogant teenager who Big Phil described as uncoachable and turned him into the BLACK MAMBA that we have today Michael Jordan...How many rings did he win with big Phil?...All 6 that he has...Phil Jackson as a basketball coach/manager is the GREATEST there has EVER been, and i am not sure i will see another GREATER in my lifetime....Thank you Zen Master for everything...I think Phil jackson is a very good coach (you just need to see what happen to lakers right now)It's the same thing with basketball and football. It starts with the player first (which is the most important, you cannot win without good players) then you need a good coach to bring the best out those players Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cadenza666 221 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 how did this turn into a NBA thread 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spike 12,049 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Basketball is a silly sport.I like Mourinho. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
termninja 5,290 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Basketball is a silly sport.I like Mourinho.Yes to both! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Term-X 7,891 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Jose' returning is still somewhat inconceivable, although.. looking at it from his perspective, he might like the idea of replacing Benitez. Especially after Rafa fucked up his Inter side, and Mourinho's still bitter about what happened with Rafa's Liverpool in the CL during his tenure here. A 'return' rather than a new English club would attract more headlines, which is very much his style. Also, as a force, we're not going anywhere, Roman WILL continue to spend, Jose' won't be able to avoid us like a stepping stone. What we really need is a technological advancement, so Roman can pull off an ‘Inception‘, get this whole ‘unfinished business’ motive in the forefront of Mourinho’s mind. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Backstreet09 499 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Mourinho seriously ? He screwed it up with best Real madrid side in years . We do not have a side half as good as real madrid , it'd be stupid to resign him plus we need to look forward , what he has done for us in the past in legendary but i don't think he'll be able to repeat that up . Don't lash at me , It's just my opinion . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Funkyflashman 187 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Mourinho seriously ? He screwed it up with best Real madrid side in years . We do not have a side half as good as real madrid , it'd be stupid to resign him plus we need to look forward , what he has done for us in the past in legendary but i don't think he'll be able to repeat that up . Don't lash at me , It's just my opinion .How has he screwed it up? He won the league against one of the best sides of all time. There is one reason for his lack of trophies and that is the presence of Barcelona. Put Manchester Utd in La Liga and they would have to get used to fewer trophies because of Leo and co. Would that constitute a "screw-up" by Ferguson? No. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Backstreet09 499 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 How has he screwed it up? He won the league against one of the best sides of all time. There is one reason for his lack of trophies and that is the presence of Barcelona. Put Manchester Utd in La Liga and they would have to get used to fewer trophies because of Leo and co. Would that constitute a "screw-up" by Ferguson? No. Comparisions are odius .And you mean Losing to Getafe and other shit la liga sides is not screwing up ? Wow cool Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Funkyflashman 187 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Comparisions are odius .And you mean Losing to Getafe and other shit la liga sides is not screwing up ? Wow cool In 2005/06 we lost to Middlesborough, Fulham, Blackburn and Newcastle. We were a bad, BAD team. Screwed up royally...No team is perfect and able to just roll over lesser sides at will. Barcelona/Real Madrid/Bayern Munich/Manchester Utd all lose. They are still VERY good football teams, so using Madrid losing to Getafe as an example for a team "screwing up" doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.I'm curious to hear what would you interpret as a succesful season for Mourinho at Madrid? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gary gordon 1,777 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 In 2005/06 we lost to Middlesborough, Fulham, Blackburn and Newcastle. We were a bad, BAD team. Screwed up royally...No team is perfect and able to just roll over lesser sides at will. Barcelona/Real Madrid/Bayern Munich/Manchester Utd all lose. They are still VERY good football teams, so using Madrid losing to Getafe as an example for a team "screwing up" doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.I'm curious to hear what would you interpret as a succesful season for Mourinho at Madrid?Dude, his favourite player is Torres. Nuff said.... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Skipper 20,593 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Mourinho seriously ? He screwed it up with best Real madrid side in years . We do not have a side half as good as real madrid , it'd be stupid to resign him plus we need to look forward , what he has done for us in the past in legendary but i don't think he'll be able to repeat that up . Don't lash at me , It's just my opinion .I am now fully convinced you love trolling. First you think Torres is still more than good enough and that it's the team's fault he doesn't really get involved, now you're saying that Mourinho wouldn't be good enough. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Magic Lamps 10,403 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Mourinho would not be the manager he is with THAT trophy cupboard if he was not both one of the best motivators and tacticians in football. Most admirable is that he can take a team and automatically be successfull, most managers have succesful spells and then not as succesfull ones, that is why they are rotated so often but Mourinho does have a golden touch, still has never lost a final if I am not mistaken. You can always say "he had Lampard and Drogba" or "he had Sneijder and Eto'o" but in most cases he utilized these players to the maximum effect. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Yeboii 1,844 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Mourinho would not be the manager he is with THAT trophy cupboard if he was not both one of the best motivators and tacticians in football. Most admirable is that he can take a team and automatically be successfull, most managers have succesful spells and then not as succesfull ones, that is why they are rotated so often but Mourinho does have a golden touch, still has never lost a final if I am not mistaken. You can always say "he had Lampard and Drogba" or "he had Sneijder and Eto'o" but in most cases he utilized these players to the maximum effect. Maybe later people can say "Well he had Hazard and Lukaku/Ba/Falcao or whatever" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nachikethas 1,143 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 people calling wenger out and mourinho in for arsenal. Seriously if he doesn't get chelsea or city he may go there. I would like an asteroid hit here before that disgusting thing happen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Backstreet09 499 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Matey , Real didn't just lose to Getafe they are freaking 16 points behind Barca . Not to mention our chelsea side has no competion with the real madrid side he's managing . If we play 10 matches with Real , I'm sure we'll lose all 10 . He freaking screwed it up (: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Backstreet09 499 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 I am now fully convinced you love trolling. First you think Torres is still more than good enough and that it's the team's fault he doesn't really get involved, now you're saying that Mourinho wouldn't be good enough. Says the guy who defends David Luiz everytime (: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
manpe 10,624 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Mourinho would not be the manager he is with THAT trophy cupboard if he was not both one of the best motivators and tacticians in football. Most admirable is that he can take a team and automatically be successfull, most managers have succesful spells and then not as succesfull ones, that is why they are rotated so often but Mourinho does have a golden touch, still has never lost a final if I am not mistaken. You can always say "he had Lampard and Drogba" or "he had Sneijder and Eto'o" but in most cases he utilized these players to the maximum effect. Who do people say he had at Porto? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gary gordon 1,777 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Says the guy who defends David Luiz everytime (: David Luiz wears his heart on his sleeve. If your favourite player had half his passion, we wouldn't be the laughing stock of Europe at the moment. We would already have 3 trophies and playing for another this week. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jase 43,476 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Not sure how true is this from Guillem Balague but make of it what you will.Guillem Balague@GuillemBalagueMourinho sending messages to some English friends: "see you in England". PSG (and Inter) hoping to convince him otherwiseAnd he also explained the problems at Madrid right now involving Mourinho and the players.http://sulia.com/channel/la-liga/f/b56be6e2-460d-4b3a-8321-2815bf80bcc6/?source=twitter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jase 43,476 Posted February 20, 2013 Share Posted February 20, 2013 Also according to Le Parisien, Ancelotti has agreed to replace Mourinho at Madrid in the summer.http://www.football-espana.net/28492/ancelotti-%E2%80%98yes%E2%80%99-madrid 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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