Heisenberg 1,824 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I've been thinling about it lately...Would Mourinho returning be a good thing? He loves the physical and dominating tactics with players like Khedira, Makélelé, Essien, Mikel being important. Whereas CFC are seemingly trying to move away from that ethos and implementing a more technical and fleet footed style. Wouldn't it be counter productive to bring in a manager whose entire philosophy is at ends with the players that are being signed?Absolutely, but Mourinho is a winner and Chelsea wants to win, if there is one poissibility of him to return then we have to take it without thinking of the players at CFC, if we keep these players Mourinho will do well with them, of course he may change some (Maybe Moses & Oscar will play in a different role, Fellaini or any other will come) but in the end we are almost sure to play Champions League every season and to compete to the Premier League every season and that is the most important think, Mourinho loves the club, and the fans love him, he could be our SAF without any doubts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spike 12,049 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I feel Terry has proved he can be successful in Mou's system, I agree on Cole and Bertrand but both pacey like Marcelo, but with Cahill and Azpilicueta I feel like they have the physical stature to be morphed by Mou to play physically. I have to be honest here, I feel our team have a younger lesser version of what Madrid have, we have similar players to them except Benzema(maybe Ba?). I mean Hazard-Ronaldo prolific wingers, Mata-Ozil heart of the playmaking, Moses-Di Maria not as close in playing style as other comparisons but both pacey, Mikel-Alonso calm handlers of the ball, Ramires-Khedira, Luiz-Pepe has tackler. I see it as:????<BenzemaHazard<RonaldoMata<Ozil (slightly)Moses<Di MariaMikel<<AlonsoRamires=KhediraLuiz<Pepe (slightly)Ivan<RamosIt seems as though we have some of the base aspects of a Mou team but are missing the details (some bigger than others) that would make us a top class team with Mou. But we are Chelsea, Mou can buy those details .Terry in my mind was succesful under Mou for three reasons.1. He is a world class CB reggardless.2. Carvalho is a world class CB.3. Carvalho + Terry is a perfect combination of contrasting defensive styles.Mata is so much better than Ozil it's ridiculous. Ozil can not finish to save his life and is inconistent as anything.Mikel is more simlar to Khedira than Ramires. Mikel would play in Khedira's position at Madrid. We have absolutely no one that plays like Alonso, that is why so many people want to sing Benat. De Bruyne could be like Alonso...It's insane how many Madrid players have regressed this season. Ozil and Di Maria have been so terrible.This is how I see Chelsea under Benetiz Target Man (Ba)Attacking Midfielder (Hazard) - Attacking Midfielder (Mata) - Winger (Moses)Box To Box (Luiz) - Anchorman (Mikel)Fullback (Cole) - Centreback (Cahill) - Centreback (Ivanovic) - Fullback (Azpilcueta)Goalkeeper (Cech) Going foward the team is strong albeit a tad unbalanced.The midfield is very weak. There is no clever long passer. I actually think a partnership of Alonso (Benat) and Mikel would be brilliant.The defence is very strong. I actually think Cahill and Ivanovic is a solid pairing not great, but I trust them more than the partnership of Pepe and Ramos (booth loose cannons like Luiz...).And Cech is one of the best in his position. Easily top one. Ramzi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADEZ 9 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 I've been thinling about it lately...Would Mourinho returning be a good thing? He loves the physical and dominating tactics with players like Khedira, Makélelé, Essien, Mikel being important. Whereas CFC are seemingly trying to move away from that ethos and implementing a more technical and fleet footed style. Wouldn't it be counter productive to bring in a manager whose entire philosophy is at ends with the players that are being signed?I think yeh mouriho tactics is use for winning trophies,porto,chelsea,inter,madrid,see?madrid also gat some soft players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Absolutely, but Mourinho is a winner and Chelsea wants to win, if there is one poissibility of him to return then we have to take it without thinking of the players at CFC, if we keep these players Mourinho will do well with them, of course he may change some (Maybe Moses & Oscar will play in a different role, Fellaini or any other will come) but in the end we are almost sure to play Champions League every season and to compete to the Premier League every season and that is the most important think, Mourinho loves the club, and the fans love him, he could be our SAF without any doubts.This is a dangerous thought. Mourinho has a certain system that he like to employ. He is a counter attacking coach and with hazard oscar mata. Our team is designed to be more of possession based Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg 1,824 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 This is a dangerous thought. Mourinho has a certain system that he like to employ. He is a counter attacking coach and with hazard oscar mata. Our team is designed to be more of possession basedAnd the Possession game eliminated us from the Champions League by the way.We are not ready for that, Benitez is not a fan btw and Di Matteo is limited tactically and we saw that when the team started to rely a lot on Hazard & Mata and concede too much hoals.When we meet a very good side, we play poorly so for me, Mourinho will surely fix the team & gives them balance & a winning mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I'm scared of the way mourinhos team is not peforming, droping points and playing awful at times. The only positive is that they were terrific last season so their fans are in hope that they will return to that. The disharmony in the team is ruining their season and at this rate, I am seeing manutd as the better team than madrid. I just hope mourinho hasn't lost his desire to win and is just looking to win champs league for personal glory (first manager to win in 3 clubs)If so it would hav a negative effect on us if he returns here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I'm scared of the way mourinhos team is not peforming, droping points and playing awful at times. The only positive is that they were terrific last season so their fans are in hope that they will return to that. The disharmony in the team is ruining their season and at this rate, I am seeing manutd as the better team than madrid.I just hope mourinho hasn't lost his desire to win and is just looking to win champs league for personal glory (first manager to win in 3 clubs)If so it would hav a negative effect on us if he returns here.Jose is having a bad season, every manager has one, even him. daBlackMamba7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kellzfresh 7,229 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Jose is having a bad season, every manager has one, even him.Hopefully it ends there. Cos I would love him here in great form ofd course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mediator 2,026 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Mourinho in UK to watch Man Utd v Liverpool at Old Trafford ahead of nxt Champions League clash #mourinho #realmadrid #UCL#MUFC #LFC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leif 6,006 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I'm 100% positive that most of these 'blips' from Mourinho are mind games. He's conceded the title to Barcelona already it would seem, so now he just needs to finish in the top 3 which is still quite easy for his team. His focus is all on the Champions League. He played mind-games with SaF for years, and this is no different. The whole goalkeeping scenario, dropping random players when they're in form etc. is all to confuse SaF so he can't 'expect' whatever Mourinho and Madrid throw at him in the UCL.In Madrid, winning the CL >>> Winning the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I'm 100% positive that most of these 'blips' from Mourinho are mind games. He's conceded the title to Barcelona already it would seem, so now he just needs to finish in the top 3 which is still quite easy for his team. His focus is all on the Champions League. He played mind-games with SaF for years, and this is no different. The whole goalkeeping scenario, dropping random players when they're in form etc. is all to confuse SaF so he can't 'expect' whatever Mourinho and Madrid throw at him in the UCL.In Madrid, winning the CL >>> Winning the league.In Madrid, is it also okay to finish behind Athletico?Was he playing mind games in his last season at Chelsea, because it's very reminiscent of what's going on at Real Madrid to be honest. I'm 100% positive you're wrong. KonohasOrangeFlash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert 130 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Despite getting 200 million worth of new players and Ronaldo, and getting rid of the Director of Football and receiving a massive salary, Mourinho is a loser in a sports sense. Not only is he losing or drawing matches against weak opposition, he is jeered by the fans. He is regarded as a crude man, lacking in sportsmanship, eaten up by petty jealousy of better coaches, such as Rafa, and now tottering towards the exit at Real Madrid. On his way out he will do what he can to stir up trouble at the club and turn players against the club. That is his technique. He spreads poison wherever he goes. Have a read of this: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/14/sports/soccer/14iht-soccer14.html Real Madrid will eventually turn to Rafa - they have been after him for years not only for his tactical knowledge and his winning record but because he personifies the kind of sportsmanship Mourinho will never be.able to achieve.La Liga has been Barcelona v Real Madrid for years. Those two teams are expected to beat everyone else. They are so much more wealthy. But Mourinho's team is 3rd and going lower. Rafa beat Barcelona and Real Madrid when he led Valencia to two La Liga titles - one more than Mourinho and only one less than Guardiola. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
termninja 5,290 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Despite getting 200 million worth of new players and Ronaldo, and getting rid of the Director of Football and receiving a massive salary, Mourinho is a loser in a sports sense. Not only is he losing or drawing matches against weak opposition, he is jeered by the fans. He is regarded as a crude man, lacking in sportsmanship, eaten up by petty jealousy of better coaches, such as Rafa, and now tottering towards the exit at Real Madrid. On his way out he will do what he can to stir up trouble at the club and turn players against the club. That is his technique. He spreads poison wherever he goes. Have a read of this: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/14/sports/soccer/14iht-soccer14.html Real Madrid will eventually turn to Rafa - they have been after him for years not only for his tactical knowledge and his winning record but because he personifies the kind of sportsmanship Mourinho will never be.able to achieve.La Liga has been Barcelona v Real Madrid for years. Those two teams are expected to beat everyone else. They are so much more wealthy. But Mourinho's team is 3rd and going lower. Rafa beat Barcelona and Real Madrid when he led Valencia to two La Liga titles - one more than Mourinho and only one less than Guardiola.Yeah it's all Mourinho's fault for the injuries that stroke Real's squad, it's Mourinho's fault of the primadonnas he has in the squad and it's Morinho's fault that Spanish media put weight of the world upon his shoulders because hey - it's Real Madrid for fucks sake! They must win everything! It's the natural order of life. People are born, they live, Real win ,win,win,win and win and people die and Real keeps winning...I would take Jose in a heartbeat in exchange for FSW even though he is actually doing a decent job.Jose is the one that made current Madrid squad. Before he came, it was just a load of expensive parts that weren't working. He bought more, but a bit less expensive and constructed a machine out of it. A machine that produced sexier football then fucking Barcelona last season!People seem to forget that managing Real Madrid is probably the most difficult job in the world of football at the moment. All the big names, armies and armies of spoiled fans, bunch of matches against Barca and media that wank over the slightest move of your hair. For me, Jose has proven that he is one of the best managers in the world at Madrid in the last 2 seasons. As for the current situation, I will stay away from it since I don't know like 80% of what happened behind the scenes like 90% of the rest people who talk about it.(no offense to you mate if you just wanted to share the article ) DDA and daBlackMamba7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj6VCm3gFv8 Spike, OneMoSalah and Rambo 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo 1,729 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Lol did Ronaldo get carded after that? I guess he didn't learn anything after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rising Sun 711 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Real play proper attacking football, with pace and skill, so i dont know what the fuss is about.... Last season they were fantastic....Why cant Mourinho take over at Chelsea next year and make us stronger..... A strong World Class Commanding DM and a World Class Striker are all we need, the rest Mourinho will do.....I dont want our team to attempt to play sexy football every minute of every game, I'd rather we win titles by playing sexy football for 45 minutes a game.... that is good enough....He was our last relatively stable manager, and is our best bet at setting up our team spine for the next decade....He adds something to our club that NO ONE else can.In my View Pep will not come to Chelsea, so if we are going to gamble on another coach, id rather it be Mourinho than someone else.Sign Him Up! He will Sign Lamps Up!All Hypothetical. But seriously. Get him back.Since he left we have gone from one crisis to another and have made mistakes, public spats what not.... We need him more than you can imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
communicate 2,703 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Yeah it's all Mourinho's fault for the injuries that stroke Real's squad, it's Mourinho's fault of the primadonnas he has in the squad and it's Morinho's fault that Spanish media put weight of the world upon his shoulders because hey - it's Real Madrid for fucks sake! They must win everything! It's the natural order of life. People are born, they live, Real win ,win,win,win and win and people die and Real keeps winning...I would take Jose in a heartbeat in exchange for FSW even though he is actually doing a decent job.Jose is the one that made current Madrid squad. Before he came, it was just a load of expensive parts that weren't working. He bought more, but a bit less expensive and constructed a machine out of it. A machine that produced sexier football then fucking Barcelona last season!People seem to forget that managing Real Madrid is probably the most difficult job in the world of football at the moment. All the big names, armies and armies of spoiled fans, bunch of matches against Barca and media that wank over the slightest move of your hair. For me, Jose has proven that he is one of the best managers in the world at Madrid in the last 2 seasons. As for the current situation, I will stay away from it since I don't know like 80% of what happened behind the scenes like 90% of the rest people who talk about it.(no offense to you mate if you just wanted to share the article )I don't agree with this ", it was just a load of expensive parts that weren't working". Pellegrini did a decent job with the squad in his only season in RM. Mourinho took over a great squad and brought in di maria and coentrao (2 more expensive signing). They only won copa in Mourinho first season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj6VCm3gFv8Fucking love it! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedsBlue 1,549 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 I really hope he wins the Champions League with Madrid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton 2,120 Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Apperantly he kicked a fan in the arse, and the police are investigating it.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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