nyikolajevics 2,708 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Sperre durch Sportgericht 12/13 Premier League 24.04.2013 Anfang Oktober 2013 Olympiaabstellung 12/13 12.07.2012 06.08.2012 Sperre durch Sportgericht 11/12 03.01.2012 01.02.2012 Sperre durch Sportgericht 11/12 Premier League 29.12.2011 31.12.2011 Sperre durch Sportgericht 10/11 KNVB Beker 24.11.2010 28.01.2011 Sperre durch Sportgericht 10/11 Eredivisie 24.11.2010 25.01.2011 Suspendierung 10/11 Eredivisie 22.11.2010 05.12.2010 Rotsperre 10/11 Eredivisie 02.08.2010 15.08.2010 Rotsperre 09/10 WM 2010 03.07.2010 07.07.2010 Gelbsperre 10/11 Europa League 09.12.2010 18.02.2010 Gelbsperre 09/10 KNVB Beker 04.01.2010 28.01.2010 Gelbsperre 08/09 Eredivisie 04.05.2009 11.05.2009 Gelbsperre 08/09 Eredivisie 02.03.2009 08.03.2009 Gelbsperre 08/09 Eredivisie 30.10.2008 03.11.2008 Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmin 2,484 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 If Suarez joined, what would be his job at the club?a) your daughter's husband Church ministerc) Motivational Speakerd) Security guarde) footballerIt's really a simple one. We all agree he's a stupid cunt; we just don't agree on how relevant that is. Perhaps the guys just does not have a good education?! I know nothing of his personal life and really don't care.BTW, same guys who complain about him being a diver, say the same about Barcelona and United. Perhaps we ought to dive move, since that seems to be working so well for them.What you're saying is that it doesn't matter if a man is a criminal. Since he's great at cleaning cars, every car wash should want to hire him. I'm sorry, but that's just not how it is.I think that our credibility as a club (for me, the credibility of our board) would decrease severely by hiring a man who's not honorable, not decent, not admirable. It would be a shame to sign a man who's done so many disgrafecul acts during his career, specially since a lot of them happened against our club. He's not the last quality player on his position on this planet.P.S: You don't give a shit about his personality or whatever until he gets banned for 10 games because of that and you can't count on one of the most important players that you have. Then, you will give a shit, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,187 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 The amount of games he will miss is a huge reason this won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 What you're saying is that it doesn't matter if a man is a criminal. Since he's great at cleaning cars, every car wash should want to hire him. I'm sorry, but that's just not how it is.I think that our credibility as a club (for me, the credibility of our board) would decrease severely by hiring a man who's not honorable, not decent, not admirable. It would be a shame to sign a man who's done so many disgrafecul acts during his career, specially since a lot of them happened against our club. He's not the last quality player on his position on this planet.P.S: You don't give a shit about his personality or whatever until he gets banned for 10 games because of that and you can't count on one of the most important players that you have. Then, you will give a shit, I'm sure. Your analogy does work for me. This has nothing to do with being a criminal or not. One can argue, and I have, that the punishment did not match the "crime" at all! 10 games for what?! A tentative of a bite? Disgraceful acts?! Like trying to get your club or country the result? This is football! Roy Keane was a fucking cunt who did despicable things on the pitch, and yet I wouldn't want to play against him. Toure runs over our midfield every time because our players are too nice to take him down.You've been taken by the English media "false" morality; or should I say their own version of morality. It's a place where a career threatening challenge is OK. If a player dives to get a PK, which more often than not is given, he is a 'diver.' If the player is overly physical and fouls other players all the time, that's OK because it's part of the game. Diving is also part of the game, regardless of what the purists believe (and it doesn't take place inside the box exclusively). You can either take advantage of it, or be taken advantage of. Think many are just naive about what players think and do on and off the pitch. BTW, players in general don't give a shit about media and their opinions."Nice" teams with naive players rarely win.If he misses a few games, so what? We have the strikers we currently have to cover for that. Having Suarez on the roster would be an improvement over what we've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,187 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 It's not as easy to say "So what if he misses a few games" it isn't a few, it's a lot. That also coupled with what he may potentially cost us in terms of discilplinery conduct and you can have 15 odd games missing for a potential £40-50M striker, that's not good at all. Suarez is a risk without the ban, but with the ban it's nigh on an idiotic move IMO.I am certain this club has a striker lined up, but this Suarez deal makes no sense what so ever, even if he is that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DustinC 136 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I'm clearly VERY anti suarez. But damn, with last choicers like Gomez and Villa now off the market could suarez be our last option? gohhh. I hate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 There's more to football than just winning games. I love Chelsea like my family and I wouldn't want a player like Suarez at Chelsea. I don't mind a bit of baggage at Chelsea (I'd love Balotelli here under Mou), nothing wrong with that, not everybody is perfect (except Mata & Oscar) but Suarez is just too much of a headcase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Ironically, the worse thing Suarez has been accused of is very similar to what our own John Terry has also been accused of. In Suarez' case, culture could have played a part, especially language (by analogy with Portuguese I think it did).So, what do people here think of John Terry? I'm consistent and wouldn't want to play *against* him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Fong 2,776 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Ironically, the worse thing Suarez has been accused of is very similar to what our own John Terry has also been accused of. In Suarez' case, culture could have played a part, especially language (by analogy with Portuguese I think it did).So, what do people here think of John Terry? I'm consistent and wouldn't want to play *against* him either.Does JT bite? Does JT dive? No.I couldn't care less about these two being accused racists because I believe JT is defo not, and Suarez is probably neither. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky 301 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Your analogy does work for me. This has nothing to do with being a criminal or not. One can argue, and I have, that the punishment did not match the "crime" at all! 10 games for what?! A tentative of a bite? Disgraceful acts?! Like trying to get your club or country the result? This is football! Roy Keane was a fucking cunt who did despicable things on the pitch, and yet I wouldn't want to play against him. Toure runs over our midfield every time because our players are too nice to take him down.You've been taken by the English media "false" morality; or should I say their own version of morality. It's a place where a career threatening challenge is OK. If a player dives to get a PK, which more often than not is given, he is a 'diver.' If the player is overly physical and fouls other players all the time, that's OK because it's part of the game. Diving is also part of the game, regardless of what the purists believe (and it doesn't take place inside the box exclusively). You can either take advantage of it, or be taken advantage of. Think many are just naive about what players think and do on and off the pitch. BTW, players in general don't give a shit about media and their opinions."Nice" teams with naive players rarely win.If he misses a few games, so what? We have the strikers we currently have to cover for that. Having Suarez on the roster would be an improvement over what we've got.No agenda, guys been convicted of biting, racism, has got away with eye gouching, stamping on ankles, flagrant cheating in WC knock out (then had no class and celebrated).... not to mention elbows, stamping blah blah blah. You can add whining, tantrums and a huge ego to this already vile mix.Worlds full of very talented ppl, (look at John Galliano for instance) but just because they are talented it doesn't give them the right to act as they please. Certainly should be rewarded for it.We already have massive wankers at our club (yes you JT), if or one don't want to sully our name further by adding this liability. Besides he really isn't a striker capable of leading the line on his own, lacks the physical attributes which we require given the light weight nature of our AMs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsblubot 3,595 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Does JT bite? Does JT dive? No.I couldn't care less about these two being accused racists because I believe JT is defo not, and Suarez is probably neither.So, are you saying that diving is worse than racism?! Did Ivanovic show the horrendous "bite" marks after the match!? It was a pathetic incident, and yet harmless! that made great headlines.Sorry, but that's being very naive. He is a defender! So, you think defenders don't pull shirts, don't use elbow, arms, hold the player down when he's going to jump, kick the same ankle repeatedly, or worse?! They do it ALL the time in every match. It's a contact sport with constant physical disputes, and all players test the limits of what is legal very often. How many times do you think a defender or a midfielder go to the ground on a challenge, because they rather get the foul than allow the opponent to regain possession so high in the pitch? Again, very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 There's more to football than just winning games. I love Chelsea like my family and I wouldn't want a player like Suarez at Chelsea. I don't mind a bit of baggage at Chelsea (I'd love Balotelli here under Mou), nothing wrong with that, not everybody is perfect (except Mata & Oscar) but Suarez is just too much of a headcase.you would want Balotelli under Mou but not Suarez??? where is the logic in that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky 301 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 you would want Balotelli under Mou but not Suarez??? where is the logic in that!!! I'd rather resign Robert fleck than buy this guy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bir_CFC 3,455 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 you would want Balotelli under Mou but not Suarez??? where is the logic in that!!! you can deal with stupid, immaturity etc, you can't deal with downright retarded behavior, dude is a headcasei mean who the fuck bites someone without any instigation? thats not normal, nor is it stupid, its fucked up, balotelli has never done stuff like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 you can deal with stupid, immaturity etc, you can't deal with downright retarded behavior, dude is a headcasei mean who the fuck bites someone without any instigation? thats not normal, nor is it stupid, its fucked up, balotelli has never done stuff like thatMourinho couldn't control Balotelli at Inter it would be the same here, Balotelli has a huge ego, Suarez doesn't have such a massive ego and imo would be much easier for Mourinho to tame, Suarez is the main man in the Liverpool dressing room as there are not many big characters in their team, but at Chelsea he would be surrounded by big characters who have achieved a lot in their careers and by people he would have a lot of respect for. I could see Mourinho turning him into a real team player who would work hard for his team-mates and not try to do everything by himself like at Liverpool! a lot of Suarez stupid behaviour comes from being frustrated on the pitch and having some anger issues, but at Chelsea we obviously wouldn't be as crap as Liverpool and therefore he would be less frustrated on the pitch, I think signing Suarez would only be a good thing for the club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizy 18,985 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 If he's available for a reasonable price(30-35m for someone of his talent) and he moves to one of our rivals and rips it up like last season we're gonna regret it.I wouldn't give a shit what he's done in the past if he scores 25 league goals and stays out of trouble.We've just about run out of options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1chelsea 864 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 Is it me or is the head too small for that body crying my ass offSent from my iPhone using Genjutsu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Juan 28,187 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 I think there is a distinct difference between Mario and Luis. One is completely heads gone and the other being temperament, putting it into categories I would say Mario is heads gone, complete nugget of the highest order. Whilst Luis is no saint I feel what he has, can be worked on. Mario in my opinion will always be pandered around, he can walk off, worry a manager as to what his next move will be. He can win you a game in the blink of an eye but by being 2-1 up you will find yourself a man light and 2-2 in the blink of an eye with him.Suarez whilst being a horrible mug he will give you a Tevez battling performance 9/10, yet in the same game that is heated will do something that just leaves you saying "WTF has he just done" I think he has things that can be taken out of his game easier than Mario, and with Jose I feel he would, out of all the managers, can do. This is all hypothetical of course and me pre-empting, but I just feel one over the other has faculties that can be turned into favour a team.I know I have gone off track with this in comparison with Mario, but I think it is quite intriguing how both match up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yuvala 2,167 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 You'll all forgive him when win the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacquiao 1,834 Posted July 8, 2013 Share Posted July 8, 2013 You'll all forgive him when win the league. .Exactly! I would even go as far as saying if we sign Suarez in time and he scores and terrorises United and Bayern everyone on here will love him by the end of August! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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