Clevemayer 764 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 unbeliveable, one off game for Bert and thy start this, bertrand is quality and he has shown it quite often for us, glad you wheren't here when Lamps was here at 21 to 25, lamps was avarage till he was 25, grow up, its not about the age, especially not in that defensive area... can't belive this...cole had 4 off games in a row, why don't you slate him?... Beigl, Hannah and pHaRaOn 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Styles 9,790 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Bertrand had a very difficult night. Even the great Ashley Cole struggles without help from his midfielders so Bertrand stood little chance. The good thing is we're not going to play against teams as good as Shakhtar and monster players like Srna every week.Srna is really good. He has put in two clinics on how a RB should play in the two games.One thing I think is a problem for Bertrand is he always passes back and doesn't seem comfortable under pressure. It's an issue now but will be even bigger if he has plans on becoming first choice once Ashley moves on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Well as long as we're not exaggerating He had a bad first half. It happens, especially when he is having his CL debut at LB. And his job was not not made any easier by Hazard leaving him alone vs Willian and Serna.Jus tell me one worse display than the Bertrands horror show yesterday. mediator and Reddish-Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DH1988 1,348 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Oh c'mon, seriously? He's a KID! With hardly any experience coming up a very slick team when we are transitioning into ATTACKING football..!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevemayer 764 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 lets not forget (If I'm right) he gave an assist... and his crossing is right now 10 times the crossing of cole... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hutcho 8,443 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 lets not forget (If I'm right) he gave an assist... and his crossing is right now 10 times the crossing of cole...How?But in all seriousness, i think every defender is wrongly being over judged by their attacking ability. TBH, i am not too bothered about his crossing, if he can defend then thats the main thing. We have an attacking 5 whose main aim is to create things. Yes it is helpful if our right and left back can cross to provide width and cross the ball in but their number one priority has got to be their defensive skills, and in that he had a bad game. One bad game though, doesn't mean he is "complete shit" or other stuff i have heard. He had a bad game, he has to go away and work on it and go from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo 21,751 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Jus tell me one worse display than the Bertrands horror show yesterday.90% of Torres or Bosingwa's performances in a Chelsea shirt.Drogba's performance away to Wigan last season.Ross Turnbull at Anfield.Kaloudanelka's displays for most of Carlo's second season and AVB's tenure.To name a few. Kez, Hannah and Clevemayer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueLion. 21,491 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Bertrand had a fucking nightmare yesterday. Any player with pace (ie the whole Shakhtar team) was skipping past him like he wasn't there. Plus, he must have slipped over twice. His overall positioning was shocking, to such an extent our most creative player (Hazard) had to come back and double-up. Ivanovic had an average game at right-back, but I can count on the fingers on one hand the amount of times he got beat yesterday. Bertrand was roasted alive.We have to be very patient with Ryan. People saying he is ready to be Cole's successor are rather wide of the mark. He is still very young and has good potential, so we must give him chance to improve. But he is certainly streets behind Cole, or even Baines, at present. James, Rmpr and OneMoSalah 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ja1 1,166 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 One poor game on his CL debut at LB doesn't change what a good prospect he is. I'm not worried about Bertrand's ability at all. Cole was just as poor against Swansea and Moses himself just as had on his CL debut against Nordsjeblah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYC. 7,542 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 I think playing out of position for the most under Di Matteo has effected his game at LB. You see it so often in football. He'll need time (and a run of games at LB) to get back in his element. Bir_CFC, Peace. and Miguelito 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 90% of Torres or Bosingwa's performances in a Chelsea shirt.Drogba's performance away to Wigan last season.Ross Turnbull at Anfield.Kaloudanelka's displays for most of Carlo's second season and AVB's tenure.To name a few.Th fact you put one match against Wigan in the table, shows you are missing one point.The meaning of Bertrands mistake could be as simple as Chelsea being the first european champiom knocked out of UCL in the group stages since Nothingham Forest in 1981.I dont remember when the players you mentioned made crucial erros that coasted us so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Jus tell me one worse display than the Bertrands horror show yesterday.Terry against Liverpool last season, Turnbull in that same match, Luiz against utd last week, anytime Bosingwa was on the field..etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneMoSalah 8,886 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 He had a shit game, Srna tore him a new arsehole, no denying it. Hes not a bad player though, plus hes played 3 European games or something. Needs experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrique 9,133 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Terry against Liverpool last season, Turnbull in that same match, Luiz against utd last week, anytime Bosingwa was on the field..etcWell, what is a match against Liverpool (a mid table team) compared with a crucial match in UCL?Well, we never lost a trophy because of Bosingwa, and we never got knocked out in the group stage because of him, and to be fair, Bosingwa never played so bad as Bertrand yesterday, in fact I remeber great matches by the Portuguese, like when he played against Barcelona.I never understood why RDM believes Bertrand is ready for the first team, because he is not even close. Perhaps in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Henrique, just give it up.Bertrand performance was very poor, our double pivot was slugish at times, the system didnt help as well and he was vunerable. Hazard tracked back a few times but they did not help at all, since he got passed so easily. Also, it was against a very high quality team (one of the best in Europe), not some bullshit mid table team.That said, it is clearly not the worst performance of all time by a Chelsea player. Definetly not, at least he did not cost us the game. I know it was lucky, but it did not cost 3 points.I can dig some worse displays by Torres, Bosingwa, Mineiro, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddish-Blue 2,503 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Well, what is a match against Liverpool (a mid table team) compared with a crucial match in UCL?Well, we never lost a trophy because of Bosingwa, and we never got knocked out in the group stage because of him, and to be fair, Bosingwa never played so bad as Bertrand yesterday, in fact I remeber great matches by the Portuguese, like when he played against Barcelona.I never understood why RDM believes Bertrand is ready for the first team, because he is not even close. Perhaps in the future.Yea, I remember a few good matches by Bosingwa (before the major injury) but the rest of the time, he didn't know how to defend. I'm glad he went to QPR, hopefully he can help them get relegated from the premier league this season BlueJewel and Heisenberg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manpe 10,861 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 I can dig some worse displays by Torres, Bosingwa, Mineiro, etc. Mineiro lmao, I'd totally forgotten about him. He made like one appearance in total, didn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmpr 8,977 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 Mineiro lmao, I'd totally forgotten about him. He made like one appearance in total, didn't he?Yes, a cup game. A very bad one...I am so glad Big Phill did not get rid of Drogba and brought Adriano. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase 43,479 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 One poor performance and the knives are already sticking out. We need to give him time and can't just expect world class performances from him every time he plays. Steve and Bosnian Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Lamps 11,692 Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 First bad game by him, no need to overreact. Cole also had bad games resulting in people calling for Bertrand to step up. The boy will come good knew that the first time I saw him playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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